50 Refugees Flee From Manitoba Back To The US! It's Cold There!

Submitted by: 5cats 1 month ago News & Politics

Shocked at finding out they were in Manitoba, and not some nice Canadian Province, 50 dejected refugees tuned back to the USA. Next time they hope to find a better place, one that doesn't have 5Cats in it!

But seriously? The tiny town of Emerson MB (population: 700) has long been accustomed to illegal border crossers. But just a few at a time, not 22 in a month! Still, they brought them in without a single complaint, and are more concerned for their safety and well being than anything else.

But are these illegal border-crossers really "refugees?" The Law (and international treaties) says no. So should border-skipping 'illegals' be encouraged to pay human smugglers to get them into Canada? Because that is exactly what's happening. And no, the USA is far from "unsafe" no matter what Trump says or does. 

Unless international treaties are worthless? And rule of law no longer applies? Most, if not all, of these border jumpers should be sent back to the USA, which they once paid other human smugglers to get them into. Harsh reality check.
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Male 1,542
this is fake news
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Male 1,133
rumham  Your fake news.
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Male 1,133
Me thinks that this in reality makes there claim of asylum a little precocious They have made them selves look more like opportunists then in real need of asylum. But is it funny that our neighbor in the north is making a real effort to secure there border and we seam to just let in any one that wants to walk across a desert.
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Male 37,042
casaledana I think there's really 50 now, and about 40+ are fit men in their 20's or early 30's... but hey, their homeland is a disaster, if they're genuine refugees? We would have possibly taken them in... but not when they sneak in from the USA.
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Male 1,133
5cats  Yes key word sneak.
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Male 1,542
casaledana you guys make a cute couple
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Male 256
When their status has been confirmed, they will be dealt with properly.

What 5cats fails to mention is that if these people have applied to the US as refugees, under the proposed Trump order, the Americans will send them back to Somalia.

If the executive order is in place, then sending them back to the US will no longer mean the US is a safe haven.  Thus the government of Canada, should they decide to, can proceed to process their refugee claim for entry into Canada.  Which, as 5cats is fully aware, is not a slam dunk for any claimant.  If the Somalians wanted to apply to Canada from the start, they'd hardly go through the US first.

If I was fleeing Somalia and had managed to reach "the land of the free" only to find out that the rules have changed for the country I had applied for, I'd be looking for a different safe haven as well.
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Male 37,042
punko False. You are talking about nonsense. They 'fear' they'll be sent back to Somali by Trump, there's NOTHING Trump has said about mass-refusal of existing claims... nothing. He had issued a pause for various nations, exactly like Obama did, until proper vetting procedures could be established, exactly like Obama did. It is nothing remotely like a permanent banning or retroactive refusal of claims.

So the possibility that maybe an unforseen future event will change things? We should just toss all existing agreements aside and open Canada's borders up wide? I think not...
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Male 256
5cats Considering the Trump ban will prevent them from entering the US (they were not permitting them to enter the US before the ban was suspended by the courts) what do you expect them to do now?  If the Trump ban becomes active, these particular folks will not be permitted to enter the US - their border jumping makes that a certainty.

As for those already in the US on refugee claims - and the current government announces that you're not wanted, I'd consider jumping too.  US would have no issues with finding 'cause' and returning 100% if it suited the current political will.  The Americans were refusing entry for American dual citizens - and marking their passports as having been refused entry.  I find it very hard to believe that if the leadership has expressed a 'no entry' ban (or even enhanced vettting) these folks will simply not get entry.

Additionally, I never said that Canada should alter our agreements.  If the US is no longer a safe haven, then they should not be returned there.  That is the current agreement.  If the US indicates that they will be immediately tossed back to Somalia, then the US is no longer a safe haven.
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Male 37,042
punko They were ALREADY IN THE USA dude! Where do you think Manitoba's southern border goes to, Mexico? O_o Dude!
The restriction (not a ban) would NOT stop people already IN the USA on refugee status from returning. That was a campaign thing that simply never happened. Many people from those nations could enter with PROPER documentation. It's a fact.
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Male 256
5cats I never said they had not come from the US.  They decided that the current American climate is not favourable for refugee claimants from those countries.  They decided to try Canada.  they were aware that official channels were closed to them, so they tried the overland route.

Now that they are out of the US, if the ban is reinstated, they will not be permitted to board a flight for the US.
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Male 37,042
punko There is no ban. There was no ban. There is no talk of rejecting all existing refugee claims, not by anyone. These refugees would be returned to the USA disregardless of the Temporary Restrictions, ok?

Imaginary future problems do not excuse breaking the law or ignoring international treaties, at least I think so...
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Male 37,042
Nice! I was hoping this would get posted. :-)

It's a funny article at that first link, a very funny (and brief!) site.

There really are nearly 50 in Emerson now, a bunch more came when it warmed up a little. 2-3 came in the brutal cold around Christams, at night, and nearly died...

Why are so many from Somalia? It turns out most Somali refugees who came to America ended up in Minneapolis, which is close to Canada eh? The people of that community are smuggling (probably for free, or they take a taxi (not joking)) healthy, able-bodied males in their 20s into Canada, fearing their American refugee claims will get rejected.

That's not how it's supposed to work. Refugees aren't supposed to 'shop around' for the best deal. They're supposedly so desperate that ANY other nation will be better than their homeland, eh? That's the treaty we have with America, to return those who have already applied for refugee status back to the USA. That is why they are skipping across illegally and not formally applying for status at a legal crossing point. Apparently Prince Justin will simply ignore it and keep them all...

... and the spring floods won't just be water, they will be a flood of "refugees" pouring through Emerson and other tiny towns along the Manitoba border :-/
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