I'm A Woman And I Don't Get Why This Man Punched An Unarmed Female At A Woman's March And Walked Away

Submitted by: melcervini 7 months ago in News & Politics


I'm a fellow woman, but I don't get this -- maybe someone can someone explain this to me.

Last Sunday at the "Women's March" in Alberta, Canada, this guy punched a female reporter for, um, reporting. This seems like bullshit because from what it seems like, only certain women were allowed to attend. 

From the looks of this video, this female video journalist was getting footage of the march and asking protesters questions. The guy in the brown beanie did not like her there, told her to leave (as if he had the authority to do that), then sucker punched her like a bitch. 

Then to add insult to injury (literally), not one of the dozens of women around him said a word or defended the reporter -- they actually ushered him away from the scene and told the journalist to call security and deal with it herself. I don't even think one person asked her if she was OK.

So if anyone can make sense how this 'oppressive man' was allowed to strike a woman -- AT A WOMAN'S MARCH -- please enlighten all of us.
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Male 45
Yeah, he's an absolute cunt.
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You're all fucking idiots. "No-one went to her to see if she was okay"? She's fucking standing there crapping on about what happened. It's not like she's knocked over or wincing in pain. She's stepping forward to try and escalate shit - what exactly do you want the crowd to do, bring out a first aid kit?

The crowd acted appropriately: separate the two. They're both idiots. It's a trivial incident, and no-one was actually hurt. Yes, he shouldn't have done what he did. Move on.

And the woman at the end WAS helping, you bunch of mouthbreathing idiots. She was de-escalating the emotion, and said "you've got footage, go take it to security". You know, behaving like a fucking adult instead of an adolescent who turns everything into a highly emotionally-charged spectacle. If the crowd of women did actually turn on the guy like half of you are saying it should have, you'd be complaining about that, too.
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Female 4,167
barry9a if it were reversed and a man reached across the barrier and punched one of the pussy-hat protesters they WOULD HAVE TORN HIM APART.  Deny it.
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melcervini Because as we know, at any other protest, you can just walk up solo to one of the protesters, deck them, and everyone just shrugs and ignores it.
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Male 2,138
A couple of things....1. The woman is obnoxious. 2. The guy tells her to get out of his face (which she clearly was).....The guy should have walked away instead of tossing a punch - it can be defensible that this woman was acting in an aggressive manner (I believe she was). Again, he should not have thrown a punch, a push would have been more appropriate at that stage (since she had the cam directly in his face). Her actions are bad reporting...don't corner your subjects, engage them. She was looking for drama, incitement and....got some. 
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Male 40,277
handimanner So: the victim was asking for it
It's OK to punch someone in the face in public? Giving them 2 seconds to 'get out of my face' is ample time? The guy could not have walked away? He was "cornered" you say? Really? He walked away easily enough after he punched her...
So... no.
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Male 45
5cats Where did he say it was okay to punch the woman in the face? Christ, dude. Do you even think or read anything before you post?
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Male 40,277
Well, thankfully the Edmonton Police seem to be taking it seriously: 
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/01/24/man-charged-after-alleged-assault-at-weekend-womens-rally

Jason Dion Bews
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Male 1,606
The simple fact is that the woman in this crowd did nothing to get this guy to the police when they separated him from the reporter they should have delivered him to security by physical action or at least direct the police to him. They did neither and seamed to aid in his escape.  This was an attack on a woman doing her job in a probably male dominated business, and if Canada is any thing like the U.S. she has certain protections under the law as a reporter and its not against the law to film people in that situation or to ask questions of them.
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Male 3,197
I'm not quite sure what just happened here...I'm confused...
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Male 40,277
kalron27 A 'right wing' female reporter, at a 'women against violence' rally, was sucker punched in the face by a man, who then walked away freely as several women (presumably involved with organizing the march) told the victim to 'calm down' and to 'not escalate' anything. 
So he walked away Scott-free, these women didn't care at all what he had done, sounded no alarms, did NOT call for security or police, made no effort to restrain or even REPREMAND him... instead they told the victim to go away.
Why? Because she's 'right wing' of course.
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Male 45
5cats Wow.. It's amazing the things you surmise with no information to back it up. Kudos.
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Male 3,197
5cats I needz more video pleaze
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Male 40,277
kalron27 Well yes, more video of what went on before-hand would be good to see. I didn't check her website out...
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Male 4,691
uh... hello? Is anyone not seeing the guy likely slapped the camera that was in his face after saying "go away"?  If i was filming someone and they didn't want to be filmed i would have to expect that they might do that.  That's why i don't put cameras in people's faces, and i can relate to the guy, because i don't like cameras in mine.
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Male 40,277
monkwarrior No, he has no right to physically touch her, or the camera. That is assault. It is a public space, at a public march. All he has to do is turn and walk away, if she follows he can call for security.
But he didn't. He sucker-punched her in the face.
He gave her a fraction of a second to 'go away' and what right does he have to demand that of her? None, zero, nothing.
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Male 40,277
She's a conservative, she deserves to be punched by a man = lefty liberal logic.
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Male 7,790
5cats Oh clearly, that's what liberals were thinking.  you are the worst.  Your deliberate misinformation is caustic and corrosive.  
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Male 45
normalfreak2 I have been a lurker here for quite a while. I think something is actually wrong with 5cats. There is definitely something going on there.
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Male 7,790
Also it says a lot that given how many people were in that march over the weekend we have no posts submitted by anyone about how only 5 arrests were done across the entire United States.   Trumps inauguration has hundreds in Washington alone.  But we get 2 posts about one off bad behaviors.  Pretty telling.
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Male 40,277
normalfreak2 This was in Canada, fuck-wit. Didn't you see the 230+ arrested in DC? The rioting? You're making excuses for a man punching a woman in the face AT A WOMAN'S MARCH? Fucking unbelievable...

And there were more than ONE example of 'bad behaviour' in my post, and hundreds of others un-reported by the MSM... that's the point. You just don't get it, again, do you. 

And here you are: making excuses for public assault, changing the subject so you can attack people, blaming the victim, how pathetic.
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Male 7,790
5cats I'm not making ANY excuses, i'm just finding it amazing that tens of millions of women 99.9% of it peaceful came together and started a movement.  Literally 99.95 of the womens march was peaceful.  Sure you are going to find 1 offs like this.  It's the same thing with you and Islamic Terrorism.  The chance anyone in the United States will be killed by a terrorist is millions to 1, tens of millions to 1.  THe odds are so small we are better off creating rules and laws around slipping in bathtubs or gun/car regulations.  We have far more verifiable chances of being affected by those than we do Terrorism.

These one offs don't and shouldn't take away from the marches.  Punish those that do commit crimes, they deserve it, but it shouldn't be used as a way to frame this as anything other a start of a movement for women.
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Male 40,277
normalfreak2 Oh fuck off already.
Trump says one word and you go snake-shit insane! But hundreds of violent protests and you proclaim it's just nothing? Only a small fraction? You make excuses for them? You are shameless, really and truly disgusting...
Oh but ONE white guy holds a Confederate battle Flag in a picture and ALL WHITES must be blamed! All Confederate Flags must be burned! You sicken me...
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Male 7,790
They clearly should have mauled him in a panic to punish him.  The right thing to do was separate him, then get him arrested.  You don't want to cause a stampede or include more people in an attack.  This guy was a coward. Plan and simple.
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Male 3,614
so after a shower, i have new thoughts. after the woman was struck, she had no support from the women around her. we did not see the beginning of the clip, so we do not know exactly what this was all about. we do not know the victims views and we do not know the offenders views. what ever their views may be, the people, not just the women, around her did not support the victim, and ushered the offender away. i did not even hear anyone ask the victim if she was okay. you never know what you will do in a situation. you can speculate, you can think you will say and do the right thing, but in reality, you never know what will happen. im not talking about what the lip ringed coward did, im talking about how the women handled the situation. maybe they couldve handled the situation better, maybe if you were there you would have done something. my first instinct as i watched the clip was that i would tackle the coward to the ground, but thats just the "gentleman" in me, you dont hurt girls where im from, which seems kind of sexist, it should just be dont hurt people, but still, im old fashioned. but that would have been wrong. maybe the women in this clip didnt act the way you wanted them to, maybe because of personal political views they did defend a lip ringed coward who just assaulted a woman, which is wrong, and maybe you would have done something if you were there, but what happened happened. hopefully the offender will be charged with assault, hopefully in the future people will act better.
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Male 20,825
robthelurker "after the woman was struck, she had no support from the women around her."

This is where it begins and ends with me -- it doesn't matter what protest it was for: save the whales, save the rainforest, stop the dakota pipeline -- whatever. I would have liked to have seen one person in that group either ask the reporter if she was OK or get in that guys face and say, "Hey asshole, we might be at an anti-trump march because he' an asshole, but you don't touch girls."

that said, this video is out there with over 1 millions views. If there's justice in the world, someone will call him out and make him face the music.

It sucks, but you're not going to find an anti-Trump person supporting what the lip-ringed douchebag did.
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Male 40,277
fancylad Found a few of them just here at IAB... just sayin... 
There's lots of people out there supporting the guy's actions, all of them liberal-leftists, not a majority of course! But there's plenty of them. Many are women too... I'd bet most are, but IDK for sure of course.
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Male 40,277
robthelurker She's a conservative blogger. No doubt at all the man knew this, as did many of the women who supported her being attacked.
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Male 3,614
5cats whats your point?
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Male 40,277
robthelurker They didn't help her, nor did they take action against the male (like CALL FOR HELP or restrain him for the police) BUT told her to calm down and not escalate.  As he stood there glaring at her NOT ONE PERSON challenged him or even objected.
Why?
At a march against violence, why did those women allow him to do this without consequence?
Because she's conservative. Period.
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Male 3,093
5cats derpcat only supports her cause shes on his side.. if this was a msnbc reporter at a trump rally it would be shes there to incite violence to create chaos!! she was asking for confrontation!!
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Male 3,614
5cats why did they allow him to do it with out consequence? because they are not the police. it was not their responsibility to hold him and detain him, they are civilians. as fancylad said, "If there's justice in the world, someone will call him out and make him face the music." but to do so right then and there would have escalated the situation, and who knows what else could have happened. but we know what happened when these women ushered the offender away and told the victim to calm down, nothing. the situation did not escalate. unfortunately we did not get the closure we wanted, that the offender face justice, but because of the video, he just might. karma can be a real bitch.
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Male 1,114
All the guy had to do was walk away.  Instead he starts flipping her off and then goes and hits her?  and everyone is OK with this?  I mean, sure, I'm not expecting an angry mob to beat the guy in to a pulp or anything like that, but you'd think you'd see someone shouting for security or something, or at least backing away from the guy so as not to be associated with him.  Instead they just usher him in to the crowd.  
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Male 40,277
waldo863 Yes, this was a lefty-liberal hate-march and they are fine with conservative women being attacked in front of their eyes, they still came out to blame her for it.
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Male 3,614
what did you want to happen mel? for everyone to just turn on this guy, to drag him to the ground and tear him to pieces? no, the most important thing to do, the most civilized thing to do, is to make sure the situation does not escalate. clearly the women around this person felt little sympathy for her getting hit in the face, but that doesnt make it right. she has it clearly on video, she can charge him with assault, end of story. women do not have to defend someone just because they are a woman, that would be sexist.
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Female 4,167
robthelurker NOT coddle him back into the crowd as if HE were the victim!  HE HIT HER WITHOUT PROVOCATION!  Where was the outrage from the women who just stood there and watched? or does that just apply towards those you don't agree with or make you 'feel' a certain way?  This is the same assholery that makes you ask "where was all this affront when Willie was LITERALLY committing sex crimes, groping and sexually assaulting women for years AND Hillary's attack of the REAL victims in DEFENSE of his actions? THEN turn around and support her!?  wtf?!  But Trump said pussy 15 years ago OMG he's a monster and we're putting pussy hats on and marching for rights.. that we have!  
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Male 3,614
melcervini "Where was the outrage from the women who just stood there and watched?" sometimes people are civilized and dont resort to outrage, you do know this happened in canada right? "or does that just apply towards those you don't agree with or make you 'feel' a certain way?" im not really sure what youre trying to say there, but ill go with no. ok, the rest of it seems to be rather political, fyi, i was 9 years old when the clinton administration ended. "Trump said pussy 15 years ago OMG he's a monster and we're putting pussy hats on and marching for rights.. that we have!" i think the whole point of marching against trump is to insure he doesnt take away those rights that you have.
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Male 8,418
robthelurker The ENTIRE protest was about outrage.  But, if he's violent 'for the cause', then the protestors will not be mad at him. They'll be mad at the woman who dared question their protest.

It's called Hypocrisy, and used to mean something.
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Male 3,614
megrendel are you sure you dont mean to say all protests are because of outrage? "But, if he's violent 'for the cause', then the protestors will not be mad at him." oh no, trust me, we are mad at him. because of this dip shit, look at how bad other peaceful protestors are looking. even the peaceful women around him just trying to stop the situation from escalating are getting shit on. "They'll be mad at the woman who dared question their protest." well, yeah... if i questioned something you believed in wouldnt you be upset? they may be mad at her, but she is still a victim. and that is all she is now, a victim for some cause. this woman is now being used to support someones personal belief.
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Male 60
robthelurker It speaks to the absolute hypocrisy of these people. What could be a more core feminist belief than stopping violence against women? And yet when it happens right in front of them, they help hide the offender, tell her to calm down, and tell her she is "part of the problem". Which goes to show they only care about women on the "correct" side of the political spectrum. And your strawman argument about dragging him down and tearing him to pieces holds no water. 
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Male 3,614
notoriousbac it wasnt an argument, its a question directed at melcervini, but it is open to anyway. seriously, what would you rather happen? "What could be a more core feminist belief than stopping violence against women?" those women did stop violence against a woman. they didnt stop the first punch, but they sure as hell prevented it from escalating any further. they did not hide the defender, where can they hide him when his face is on camera? they just got him the hell out of there before he did any more damage. damn right they told the victim to calm down, she was likely to become violent herself, i wouldnt blame her, but it wouldnt be right. and to no fault of her own, she was a part of the problem, the offender clearly had enough of being on camera, that was part of the problem, but she still had every right to record. "Which goes to show they only care about women on the "correct" side of the political spectrum." not exactly. as a human being, i care for all other human beings, but i do not sympathize with them all. like when a nazi gets sucker punched, i understand that assault is wrong, but i have no sympathy for the nazi. it is the same with these women. they care about all women, but when they see one they disagree with get punched in the face, they understand that its wrong, but they dont feel as bad. its human nature to identify more with those with similar physical characteristics and personal beliefs.
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Male 1,689
Which goes to show they that these particular women only care about women on the "correct" side of the political spectrum deescalating a violent situation.

FTFY

What that guy was reprehensible and he should have been held accountable for his actions by the women around him. I don't know if the women in this video did that or not, since the video doesn't show what the women said/did to that guy after he threw the punch. But that behavior is not OK, anywhere.
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Male 3,614
bliznik "he should have been held accountable for his actions by the women around him." dude, the women around him are not police. what that guy just did was a crime, he is a criminal. i would never expect a civilian to try to deal with a criminal. it happens, but i would never ask or expect it of a civilian. but i agree, that kind of behaviour is not acceptable, period.
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Male 1,114
robthelurker No, but they could have called for security and/or removed themselves from the situation by leaving the immediate area.  Instead, they put their hand on this guys shoulder and usher him in to the crowd where security stands little to no chance of ever finding him.
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Male 3,614
waldo863 they put themselves in the situation and a crowd between the victim and the offender so the situation wouldnt escalate. the guy is very clearly on camera, the video is online, i doubt he will have many friends after they see this.
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Male 8,418
robthelurker But, YOU WOULD expect thousands of women who are there to protest, amongst other things, abuse against women to, oh I don't know, denounce someone who has just abused a woman?

And yet, their okay with violence against women..as long as it's not women on THEIR side.
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Male 40,277
megrendel Exactly, they see nothing wrong with it. They actively defend the man who attacked her because his 'politics are correct'. They (left-liberal feminists) literally are the embodiment of hypocrisy...
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Male 3,614
megrendel i wouldnt say they were okay with it. you never know how some one will act in certain situations. they definitely werent giving the victim any support and they did usher the offender away. but i doubt they are okay with any kind of violence generally speaking, they were just handling an act of violence against a woman they just witnessed as best they could as quickly as possible before the situation escalated. maybe they could have acted better, its easy to pick a part a situation after it has happened. hindsight is 20/20.
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Male 20,825
That lip ring tells me everything about that coward.
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Male 1,674
fancylad Could not agree more
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