The Centers for Disease Control And Prevention Just Cancelled A Vital Climate Change Conference

Submitted by: kalron27 5 months ago in Science


According to the Washington Post, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), with very little warning or explanation, recently canceled a major climate change conference that had been scheduled for next month in Atlanta. No reason, it just happened.

The only thing those scheduled to speak at the conference got was a "terse email" before President Trump’s inauguration on January 9 stating that the event was off. Again, no reason was given.

I'll just quote the opening paragraph:

"The Climate and Health Summit, which had been in the works for months, was intended as a chance for public health officials around the country to learn more about the mounting evidence of the risks to human health posed by the changing climate."

Let's cancel a summit intended to inform THE PUBLIC.  Yep, that is a wonderful sign for the next 4 years. "Alternative Truth" indeed.
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Male 38,418
It's back on! http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/27/that-climate-conference-is-back-on-but-not-at-the-cdc/

ManBearPig to the rescue! And look! It seems like the US Government isn't the ONLY people who can hold such conferences after all! Gosh, who knew that?
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Male 2,040
well dont cha know climate change is the devils work. us humans have no reason to believe in this
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Male 1,354
Admittedly in some areas of the U.S. the air quality has gone down about 6% (all most exclusively in big city's) the overall air quality in the U.S. has gone up steadily for years. So if its bothering your asthma may be you should look to moving to a better area. If you live in L.A. shame on you Its a big bucket full of dirty air.
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Male 2,471
Thanks for the advice, but I find the air here in Canada to be pretty clean..not that I was talking about smog before anyhow.
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Male 2,471
"...was intended as a chance for public health officials around the country to learn more about the mounting evidence of the risks to human health posed by the changing climate."

Shame. I know my asthma is infinitely worse with the heat and humidity.

Hope it wasn't cancelled because of meddling. Health is an important topic, and I see nothing here suggesting they were even 'laying blame' for climate change - just discussing some of the consequences.


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Male 1,354
jaysingrimm   So what your saying is that all the extra plants growing are making it hard for you to breath? Cause more Carbon Dioxide means more plants can convert it to Oxygen so are you saying that we need less Carbon Dioxide so all the plants die.  
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casaledana
Nope, and CO2 levels have been as low as 180 ppm for millions of years, yet plant life didn't go extinct. Now they sit at about 400 ppm, and increasing.
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Male 7,052
Double this with the gag order on the EPA.  Let's hope this doesn't devolve into only putting out information that isn't scientifically sound.
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Male 1,354
normalfreak2   Not a gag order maybe a reset, they didn't seam to work to well with that dam, brake or the lead in the water maybe its just a slight change in priority's, to stop trying to save the three toed flying monkey and concentrate on the things that have a direct effect on lives and environment in general.
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Male 7,927
Hmmm...seems the D in CDC stands for Disease. Maybe someone pointed out they need to quit wasting taxpayer money on things outside of their specialty.

It would seem that kalron is going to label as "Alternative Truth" anything that he, personally, disagrees with when he has no other way to argue it.  I guess that's just another 'Card' in the deck for losing arguments, right next to the Race Card, the Women's Card, the Privilege Card....

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Male 2,265
megrendel and If you don't have an issue with those things like race and women's rights being important to American policy I feel sorry for you.  You can keep the privilege card, you earned it with whiteness. 
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Male 7,927
kalron27 So, pointing out that people falsely screaming 'racism', 'sexism' and 'privilege' more often to silence debate rather than for actual instances of 'racism', 'sexism' and 'privilege' (thus cheapening the meaning of cries of 'racism', 'sexism' and 'privilege' ) is somehow 'not having an issue' with ACTUAL 'racism', 'sexism' and 'privilege'.)

BTW...the 'Privilege Card' is used by liberals when they are losing a debate. 

What color is the sky in your world?
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Male 2,265
megrendel Not a Liberal...Independent.  And yes, at this point, we live in different realities.
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Male 38,418
kalron27 Lolz! The chant of the American Lefty-liberal! Lolz!
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Male 2,265
5cats Wait...that doesn't make any sense.  There is totally a middle ground on this.  But if you are seeing me as that far left, you need your eyes checked pronto, you got some tunnel vision right there...
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Male 7,927
kalron27 I heard climate change is also responsible for early male pattern baldness.

I don't doubt that any change in any climate has affects on disease spread and vectors.  But, at this moment, there is no evidence that this cancellation had anything to do with the new President.

Of course, libs love to make general rationalizations (that benefit them, of course) well before the facts come in. Just as every shooter is claimed to be 'right-wing extremist' right up until the facts come out that they voted democrat or were not white, or were not Christian.  (And, at that point, the politics, race and religion of the shooter 'are not important.')
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Male 2,265
megrendel Why cancel scientific efforts to come to a conclusive conclusion?  Again...not a lib...just someone who trusts science.
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Male 5,892
megrendel It's clearly responsible for my testicular shrinkage!

Anyhow, I read an article earlier today that said there was no input from Trump at all. They apparently wanted to see, first, what the new administration's feelings were on it. Doesn't seem like a good reason to cancel a conference based on science, but Trump influence was clearly denied.
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Male 2,265
broizfam Yes, why not use a scientific method to come to a conclusion?  However I am pretty sure the new administrations feelings on the matter has everything to do with it.  It's not just Trump, it's the hands that are up his ass that are making the decisions at this point.
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Male 7,927
kalron27 Of course any serious conclusions should be based on science. Former Research Chemist here.

The problem is when the conclusions are based on science guided by politics.  (a case of drawing the Bell Curve then fitting the data to match).

So far, there is no evidence to state that this cancellation had anything to do with Trump.

But say it did, there are several scenarios.
  1. Did Trump pressure them to cancel? (low likelihood)
  2. Did the CDC decide to cancel based on the uncertainty of the new administrations outlook on their research? (slightly higher likelihood)
  3. Did the CDC decide to cancel so that they could blame the cancellation on the new administration? (slightly higher likelihood).

Of course it could be something as dastardly as they need more preparation time, or scheduling conflicts, or any number of things.  Let's see how the facts will out.

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Male 2,265
megrendel 

"So far, there is no evidence to state that this cancellation had anything to do with Trump."

Lets see, this isn't the only thing that has been "canceled" since Trump has taken office, including the removal of climate change as well as other things mentioned from our country's website.  This, the pipe lines, the opening of protected federal lands to fracking and drilling, backing out of the global environmental efforts...it's just a bit too convenient.

"But say it did, there are several scenarios.
  1. Did Trump pressure them to cancel? (low likelihood)
  2. Did the CDC decide to cancel based on the uncertainty of the new administrations outlook on their research? (slightly higher likelihood)
  3. Did the CDC decide to cancel so that they could blame the cancellation on the new administration? (slightly higher likelihood)."

Since you like to say this...prove any of that...
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Male 7,927
kalron27 removal of climate change as well as other things mentioned from our country's website

Sorry, but WhiteHouse.gov is not the 'country's website'.  Strangely enough, although it is deviously called 'WhiteHouse.gov', it is, in fact, actually the official website of the White House (I know, confusiing).  The website is the responsibility of the inclumbent administration. As a result, the site is completely redesigned for each new president.  Websites for former presidents are moved to archived version. (psst...and this has been the case since 1994, so if you're bitching about the bloody obvious, you're about four administrations late.)

This, the pipe lines, the opening of protected federal lands to fracking and drilling, backing out of the global environmental efforts...

Basically reversing everything that Obama did through the very same process.  So it's okay for Liberal administrations to have far reaching powers..but when a Conservative administration wields the exact same powers you want to cry foul.

prove any of that...

Do you have no clue what a 'scenario' is?  You cannot prove Trump had anything to do with it. I cannot prove he didn't.  You're assuming he did and arguing it as fact.  I'm running out multiple possibilities and ranking them in what I consider most likely. (thus the word 'likelihood')
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Male 2,265
megrendel 

When "WhiteHouse.gov" removes Civil Rights Links...that is a bad sign duder.

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Basically reversing everything that Obama did through the very same process. "  This means we are going backward with Climate Change reversal.  Which actually proves my point.

" Do you have no clue what a 'scenario' is? " What...I can't create scenarios too?  It's a discussion after all. 

That's cool, we can just agree to disagree on this then.  It's a free country...for now.




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Male 7,927
kalron27 Two points:
  1. What part of redesign eludes you? You can find scores of government sites dealing with Civil Rights.  Some of the Official laws pertaining therof (which WhiteHouse.gov never was). Obama added those pages during his administration to show what HIS Administration was doing concerning Civil Rights. ALL of his content has been replaced.  You seem to think that the fact that pages dealing with Obama's position on Civil Rights were archived means Trump is trying to delete Civil Rights.  It ain't so.  (pro tip: Don't go to WhiteHouse.gov for any law or regulation. It is simply the bragging site of whichever administration is in control. Double pro tip: Never go to WhiteHouse.com for ANY info.)
  2. Reversing Obama's overreach is not 'going backwards'. If you're sailing into a hurricane because the previous captain was an idiot, it might bel  good idea to reverse course. 
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Male 38,418
Why is the CDC involved in HOSTING 'climate change' conferences? Attending them = Sure, no worries. Being aware of climate change (it is real after all)is also = sure! That's fine.
But using and abusing various government agencies to push the AGW Agenda was one of Obama's legacy policies. So of course this useless, complete waste of time and money got cancelled. Duh!

'VITAL' ? Will the Entire Planet Earth get WARMER NOW because this one useless conference was cancelled? Really? Show me the maths behind THAT one! LMAO!
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Male 1,258
5cats  that is exactly what i was thinking!  CDC should stick to infectious diseases.  Maybe they have too many staff with not much to do, hint hint President Trump!
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Male 38,418
spanz No, they should be aware of climate changes and how that might affect disease patterns. 
Yes, hosting a 'climate change conference' is far beyond what is required for doing that. :-)

The problem (a very real one!) is the political use of various government departments to by-pass the US Constitution and enforce Obama's policies against the wills and wishes of the US Citizens. 
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Male 2,516
Want to save the planet and lower carbon emissions?  Stop flying people all over the world to hold expensive conferences in fancy big city hotels.  If only there was a technology that could link people together so they could see AND hear each other in real time.  Sort of like a telephone with video.  Hummmm.       
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Male 38,418
dromed Now don't go talking about 'science fiction' here dromed!! Telephones with pictures, lolz! We need cold hard facts here, like how the Himalayan glaciers will ALL melt by 2010 if we don't lower carbon emissions by 0.01%... oh wait...
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Male 2,265
dromed I honestly don't think that is doing anything to contribute to our problem nowadays.  I work for a pretty big place and they haven't used fight and hotel travel expenses in about 10 years since purchasing Polycom Systems for departments.  I'm pretty sure where I work isn't the only company that made that jump, considering how many other companies they deal with via their Polycom as well as Zoom, Skype and GoToMeeting on a daily basis...all the way across the world.
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Male 38,418
kalron27 So the thousands of private jets take to Switzerland and Paris and Morocco and all those places, and the billions spent on these conferences "isn't important"?? But ME turning my heat up to 68F (it's 67 normally, 62 at night) IS KILLING THE POLAR BEARS? 
Just trying to clarify your position here...
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Male 2,265
5cats so are you saying those do cause influence...you might want to clarify your position.  My has not changed, only saying corporate ventures have lessened do to the use of technology.  Using technology helps the environment, hence lessens our footprint.
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Male 38,418
kalron27 I honestly don't think that is doing anything to contribute to our problem nowadays.
Is that not about them flying pollution-chugging jets and spending millions? Is that not an endorsement of it? I don't understand what you said, obviously. My position is perfectly clear: AGW supporters cause mountains of pollution and I'm "a bad person" for heating my house in a Canadian Winter... that is the position of the AGW fanatics.
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Male 2,265
5cats Wow, your reading comprehension is not too good on this one.  That statement is being taken way out of context.  My remark was geared toward that specific comment, meaning I know for a fact Corporate America doesn't work like that any more, it uses technology to compensate and lessen air travel thus reducing the footprint.  But yes, planes are a contributor to Climate Change I will agree with you on that...as long as  you admit they do too...
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