In The Israel-Palestine Conflict, More Palestinians Are Dying Than Israelis

Submitted by: bliznik 9 months ago in News & Politics


There are some who think all Jews wanted to create the nation of Israel after the horrific events of WWII. They did not. Talk to any Jew who lived during those times, and they'll tell you stories about how conservative Hasidic Jews wanted to wait patiently for the "true messiah" to return them to their homeland, but liberal Zionist Jews wanted to take back their homeland by force -- Britain and America sided with Zionists.

There are some who think that Israel has always been a peaceful nation. It has not been. Since Israel's formation in 1948, Israelis and Palestinians have been killing one another, and Palestinian casualties have always been far greater than Israeli casualties. 

But don't take my word for it. Take a look at a few of these examples...

The Jewish Virtual Library
Wikipedia
ProCon
The Washington Post
Fox News

Both Palestine and Israel have used cowardly, underhanded tactics to attack and kill non-military innocents. Hamas is just as bloodthirsty as Israeli extremists. Sometimes a group of Palestinians get particularly bloodthirsty and Israel reacts in self-defense, and sometimes the opposite happens. Both sides have repeatedly violated international treaties and cease-fire agreements. Nobody has clean hands. Nevertheless, I hope that I see peace in my lifetime and I hope that humanitarian aid continues to flow into the area to stem the constant flow of lives lost.
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Male 527
Of course more Palistinians die, they blow themselves up.
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Male 87
History is made of people kicking other people out their homes.  The Israelis were there, weren't there, and now are there.  I really don't see the problem.  Unfortunately, you're dealing with a part of the world who only respects getting the shit kicked out of them.  These aren't civilized humans.     
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Male 1,682
Lets get down to the nuts and bolts of this conflict, the Palestinians have been offered peace several times they turn it down and refuse to recognize Israel as a country if they stopped trying to kill Israeli's  and accepted them as a nation the war would be over. And don't try and go but this and that and the other thing that the Israelis have done. They have not just run over The Palestinians and driven them in to the sea which they could do if they wanted to. Stop fighting and recognize Israel and then lets see what happens. 


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Male 40,756
Lies, bullshit and more lies.
Palestinians kill EACH OTHER far more than any Israeli CIVILIAN kills them!
Does the IDF kill them? YES! They kill terrorists, and also the human shields the terrorists HIDE behind, because mostly they are volunteers...
Un-fucking believable. What happened to bliznik? He used to be mostly intelligent. Now utter shit like this? How sad.
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Male 4,099
I've never understood this stupid argument, if your fighting then you want to be the winner and kill more than you lose. Please name any conflict where one side willingly lets it's own people die so that the can be equal to the losses of their opponents. When NATO was killing way more Libyans then the Libyans were killing NATO members, I didn't hear a peep from anyone. Israel has a relatively small but very advanced military with a ton of extra security measures vs. Hamas who uses child soldiers, uses filled hospitals as military HQ's, and regularly use human shields. You don't have to be a military genius to figure out why more Palestinians die.
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Male 7,927
richanddead I think the greater question is, what is Israel going to be?  It'll be hard for Israel to be a Democratic state and a national homeland if you don't include any other nationality.  It could very well be both a Democratic state and National homeland but what they are doing now doesn't make it look like it's going that way.
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Male 4,099
normalfreak2: Look I'm not saying that Israel is squeaky clean, but they definitely have tried to seek peace with the Palestinians more-so then the other way around. The problem is every time they try to lower their guard they are rewarded with car bombs, kidnappings, and missile attacks. Israel is trying to protect itself, not look politically correct to foreign nations. The country takes missile barrages from hamas, think about that, if any other nation had to deal with that, it would be instant all-out-war and a full military occupation of Palestine.
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Male 7,927
richanddead I'm not arguing that the extremist elements within Palestinians aren't at fault as well.  Britain drew the lines for Israel, in the middle of Arabs,  I'd rather Israel not exist where it is but many of our religious zealots believe Israel must exist for Jesus to return.  There's a lot of outside forces propping this whole thing up.  I don't know how to get peace in and around Israel when they are surrounded by people that don't like them.It's a powder keg waiting to explode.
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Male 40,756
richanddead I know right!
Add to that the simple and indisputable facts! 
Like how Palestinians regularly kill each other, intentionally or by mistake (and then blame Israel, of course!)
How Hamas and the rest FAKE deaths and fake IDF attacks for propaganda, and the MSM swallows it of course!
Like how Hamas deliberately targets civilians, on purpose! 
Like how the IDF does more than any other army on Earth to avoid civilian casualties. Maybe Canada and USA are equals in that regard.
And dozens more facts the anti-Semites choose to ignore... bigots.
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Male 4,099
5cats: Don't know about Canada, but the US was fine with the fact that nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes in Yemen and Somalia were not the intended targets.
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Male 7,927
richanddead don't forget that US citizen that was killed by the administration.  Given he was a terrorist but still.  There's a huge outcry about the amount of fatalities to civilians from center left people.
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Male 4,099
Also the video is crap and chalk full of inaccuracies and slanted politics.
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Male 1,871
I just wish Isreal would take the gloves off and finish this already.  
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Male 7,927
insaneai Survival of the fittest right?
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Male 1,871
normalfreak2 Not survival of the fittest.  I am taking a clear and distinct side in favor of Israel.  
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Male 4,099
normalfreak2: In 2005 the Israeli Government activated it`s "Unilateral Disengagement Plan." It forcibly relocated thousands of Israeli`s from 21 settlements in the Gaza Strip to only four settlements in the northern West Bank. 

It was completely against Israels interests, it closed multiple I.D.F. installations and sparked the largest expression of public protest ever held in Israel. Ariel Sharon, the main proponent of the withdraw, nearly lost his election over it and was slammed from people like Ayoob Kara who said Hamas would take over the Gaza Strip and use it as a base from which to attack Israel. 

But it was pushed forward, even without a majority support in Israel, for the hope peace with the Palestinians.

Following the withdrawal, " Four synagogues were vandalized, looted, and torched. Palestinians also looted objects from destroyed homes. Hamas leaders held celebratory prayers in Kfar Darom synagogue as mobs continued to ransack and loot synagogues. Palestinian Authorities did not intervene. Less than 24 hours after the withdrawal, Palestinian Authority bulldozers began to demolish the remaining synagogues. The settlements` greenhouses, which were left intact by Israel, were also looted by Palestinian mobs. In some places, there was no security, while some police officers joined the looters. 

Most of the former Israeli settlers were housed in hotels and guesthouses for the first few months, being threatened with further eviction numerous times. People were still homeless more than eight months after losing their homes. 

Yet with in only a year, tens of thousands of Palestinians were fleeing those parts. 12% of all industry in the area moved to Egypt and Jordan and 70% of families in the Gaza Strip fell into poverty. And the power vacuum created fighting between Hamas and Fatah that developed into a near civil-war. 

For their attempt at peace Israel was awarded a barrage of incoming missiles and an Israeli soldier was kidnapped, torched, and ransomed by Hamas.

Is it survival of the fittest? No it's war, even if it is constantly postponed and stalled by the international community. Any image of peace in regards to Palestine and Israel is one in which Hamas does not exist. If you do not stop Hamas, then you can not discuss peace. 

War is not a pretty option, and fighting is never fun, but when it is the only productive option, it becomes the Pareto optimum. The costs of continuing to simply stroke our egos and say we prefer peace talks that we know will be unsuccessful, is nothing but specious sophistry that only prolongs the costs of the conflict. 
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