You Can Stop Worrying About Climate Change, Bill Gates Is Throwing Money At The Problem

Submitted by: lalapancakes 8 months ago in News & Politics
According to Grist, Bill Gates and friends are getting together to save the planet from corporate buyouts... with a corporate buyout. In the absence of a viable government for the people anymore because large companies like Microsoft and Sun Microsystems have participated in lobbying the piss out of the political process, rendering it useless, Gates has decided it’s his duty to save the world. Gates and several other CEO’s from Amazon, Virgin, Sun, and Alibaba have promised to donate a few billion to get the ball rolling towards clean energy. Hoo-fucking-ray.

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Male 1,670
So Bill Gates is going to get the sun to calm down and fix the magnetosphere with cash????  Uh, yeah (*facepalm*)

Back to CO2 being the only thing we talk about.....
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Male 3,985
Get the sun to "calm down"? Sounds like you're trying to blame global warming on solar irradiance. Per NASA: "If the warming were caused by a more active sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gases are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere."

Link (near the bottom of the web page): http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
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Male 1,670
Multiple other documentaries have also shown that solar flares an coronal mass ejections have affected the climate.  Others have shown the fluctuation in the magnetosphere is causing warming in the north and cooling in the south.

I'm not saying CO2 isn't part of the equation even though natural causes of CO2 emissions far outweigh man-made causes.  I'm saying this is more complicated than the typical media outlet will discuss.

Let's not get into the fact that the climate goes through cycles and we've been getting to the end of an ice age the past few centuries according to history and geological sciences.
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Male 3,985
A few points: (1) NASA's Climate Change website isn't a documentary. It's a repository of scientific information made available to the public. I know you know that; yet you seem to be avoiding that fact by starting off your reply with "Multiple other documentaries...." I'm not much interested in documentaries. Right now, you can find several documentaries on YouTube patiently explaining that man never landed on the Moon and 9/11 was all part of a Jewish conspiracy. (2) I'm also not much interested in "typical media outlets." Again, please note: NASA is not a typical media outlet. (3) As far as "the climate goes through cycles" goes, first, all of the cycles that have been identified take place on the scale of thousands of years. The rapidity of global warming that we're seeing now is unprecedented and occurring on the scale of decades. Second, the most famous cycles of all, the Milankovitch cycles, suggest that were it not for anthropogenic causes, the planet would be slightly cooling, not warming dramatically, as is the case. (4) All of the above said, I'm fully aware and resigned to the fact that nothing, and I mean nothing, that I've stated here will matter to you one whit. From lengthy discussions with 5Cats, CrackrJak, and others, I've learned that all the scientific research in the world is of no consequence if it is perceived as somehow being contrary to a person's ideology.
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Male 1,670
@Squrlz4Ever 
1.  I agree that NASA is a credible source of information.  
2.  I acknowledge that the climate is changing.  
3.  The documentaries I refer to are produced by Nova, BBC, and other similar credible sources, not just some YouTube hack.
4.  Your input DOES matter to me, especially because you are approaching this conversation in a logical manner.
5.  The changes we are seeing now have multiple causes, I am simply suggesting that we don't go overboard on CO2 alone because man-caused emissions still do not account for much in comparison to naturally occurring emissions.
6.  The political skewing of data is well documented; that doesn't mean it's all bunk but I think we need to look at it objectively.
7.  The shifting of the magnetic poles is documented as being faster than expected; the north pole is actually moving east while the south pole is breaking up.  This allows more solar radiation through to the earth.  Yes, I realize this is just another reason to be careful about greenhouse gasses because increased heat + increased insulation = Big trouble.

I was hoping for a better discussion on the topic than the usual.  You have provided it to some degree.

Let me share the most valuable lesson I have learned:  The more I learn, the more I realize I have much more to learn.

Note: I admit to trolling on occasion, this is NOT one of those occasions.
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Male 1,532
Government hamstrung I don't know how, they have been throwing money at Green energy for forty years. To these people (Gates and friends) this is a money making plan.
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Male 3,985
The amount of money the U.S. government has been "throwing" at green energy for the past forty years is a pittance compared to the subsidies it has been giving the oil industry.
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Male 3,985
Welp, the world being what it is, I guess I'm glad some corporations are putting up big money to address global warming. It may not be the perfect soluton, but our government has been hamstrung. Now that Trump is appointing global warming deniers into key positions, it stands to reason that what little progress has been made will be undone. It's looking pretty grim, sad to say.
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