There's No "If Aliens Exist..." They Exist And We're Lucky We Haven't Seen One

Submitted by: lalapancakes 1 year ago in Science
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One concept of alien life which has stuck with me, came from an interview with an ex-Air Force pilot on a late night alien stories on YouTube binge. He said there is no, “if” aliens exist. He said they exist and they’ve been here with us the whole time. The interview blew my mind in the concept of aliens not being in the form we know but living alongside us in a fourth, fifth, sixth, and so on... dimension. We can’t see them. They see us.

The ex-pilot warned humanity doesn’t want to see aliens because when they do make themselves visible to us, that means they want something we have. And that’s not good news. So no aliens is better than aliens.

British science writer Philip Ball has the same impression of what aliens probably are vs. what humans have conceptualized them to be. He says science fiction has actually limited our ability to conceptualize aliens. Maybe we haven't found signs because we aren’t looking correctly. Maybe they’re in other dimensions. Maybe they come in spray form. Maybe they’re just really basic forms of life.

An excerpt from Philip Ball:

For as long as scientists have looked for alien life, they have conceived them in our own image. The quest arguably began with a 1959 Nature paper by the physicists Giuseppe Cocconi and Philip Morrison, who argued that ‘near some star rather like the Sun there are civilisations with scientific interests and with technical possibilities much greater than those now available to us’. The two scientists further posited that such aliens would have ‘established a channel of communication that would one day become known to us’. Such alien signals would most likely take the form of shortwave radio, which is ubiquitous through the Universe, and would contain an obviously artificial message such as ‘a sequence of small prime numbers of pulses, or simple arithmetical sums’.

Nothing in this suggestion was unreasonable, but it’s self-evidently the result of two smart scientists asking: ‘What would we do?’ Cocconi and Morrison’s proposal to look for familiar types of signals, coming from familiar types of technology, has heavily conditioned the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) ever since. Today, the Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb thinks it might be good to look for spectroscopic signatures of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) in the atmospheres of alien planets, apparently in the conviction that aliens have fridges like ours (or perhaps they’re just crazy about hairspray). Other scientists have proposed finding aliens by looking for their light-polluting cities; their starship Enterprise-style antimatter drives; or the radiation flashes from extraterrestrial nuclear war. It all sounds dreadfully… human.

There are 11 comments:
Male 322
Due to the vastness of space, I firmly believe there is life on another planet somewhere. Therefore, I find it hard to believe life on another planet hasn't evoled into intelligent life. We ourselves are still evolving.
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Male 6,271
Don't worry MonkWarrior, You will, The ships are on their way :-) 0
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Male 6,615
I think i'll just wait to decide on that when i see one.
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Male 8,780
We are but a rung on the ladder from Flatland...and a low rung at that....
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Male 8,177
String Theory pretty much goes down this path of the multiverse. There are aliens in OUR universe. We are 1 of 10's of Trillions of Galaxies. The odds we are the ONLY sentient life in this Universe is really high but not improbable. It happened here, It has to be somewhere else. The odds of it not are just improbable. I think the one valid point is when there is life, do they all get to a point where they finally learn the ability to destroy themselves do they do that instead of advance to the next stage of civilization?
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Male 433
You need heavy elements to create life with. You get heavy elements by exploding e.g. a 25 solar mass supernova, preferably near a molecular cloud. Creating enough heavy elements does take some time, our current guess is that we are among the first. This would limit the habitable universe to 5 billion years. Galaxies being further away are younger, they have less chance of containing life. (Due to SRT). Still a lot. It took us 4,5 billion years to be as "intelligent" as we are, so a radius of about 500 lightyears would be reasonable (if we'd be forced to make a guess). Also life without oxygen didn't succeed here, so we assume that it would be the source of higher life form's energy, so we'll search for liquid-containing planets with oxygen. Not because it's hard, but because it's less hard than the other things we try in order to find interstellar life.
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Male 3,775
"He says science fiction has actually limited our ability to conceptualize aliens." bullshit. have you seen some of the concepts that theyve come up with for aliens in star trek? have you ever heard of the Q continuum? have you ever heard of mr. mxyzptlk? he comes from the 5th dimension and is generally a pain in the ass to superman, and he was created back in 1944. the concept of aliens existing in other dimensions has existed for a long time. h. p. lovecraft wrote about alternate alien dimensions in from beyond back in 1920.
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Male 6,271
99% of Star Treks aliens are just Humans with silly bumps on their head. As to seeing aliens... In the next 10 years, you will Although not very much of us from your pens at the Blood farms... That is the few of you that are left. My advice eat more beef and liver :-)
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Male 5,413
Two words: Space gophers. If anyone wants to know more, I am ready to dish. Someone needs to tell humanity the truth.
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Male 8,177
Oh great squirly one can you please impart the wisdom that hides in your chubby cheeks?
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Male 5,413
All right. It's taken me awhile to work up the courage to broach this topic, but here goes. ~Squrlz lights up a Lucky Strike, takes a drag, and lets out a long slow exhale from the corner of his little mouth~ The squirrel community has long known about the space gophers. And I think it's time we let you in on the whole situation before things start getting really weird. And they will get weird. Okay: Those craters on the Moon? You might think they were formed by asteroid collisions. But WUHOHOHOHOHO NO. You see, more of those little craters are being formed all the time. All the lunar orbiters are showing it. And the Hubble images. Same thing on Mars: lots and lots of new craters. ~Squrlz takes another drag of the Lucky Strike~ It's the space gophers, dammit. They're out there. Waiting. "But Squrlz!" you say. "If they're out there, what about the Moon landings? Why didn't anything happen then?" Because they weren't ready then, that's why. The space gophers were all like, "What the fuck? Humans haven't even invented the iPhone yet. What the hell are they doing up here already?" But in the 45 years since, they've been getting ready. Very very ready. The next time a human makes "one smell step" up there, all hell's going to break loose, mark my words. It won't be pretty: thousands of space gophers attacking in the blink of an eye. And that's not the half of it! For over a century, Earth has been inhabited by several large sleeper cells of space gophers. Haven't you heard about those cases of Bubonic Plague out in Montana and Idaho? Found among the gophers? ~takes another drag~ It's no coincidence, let me tell you. They've been working on their biological warfare agents for decades now, refining their formulas and delivery methods. Once the signal is given, America's nuclear missile silos will be attacked by a furry carpet of activated sleeper-cell space gophers. .... All right. I've probably said too much already. I'm just trying to let you all know that the sooner you guys start inducting squirrels into the space program, the better. Squirrels are mankinds most effective weapon against the space gopher threat. We know their creepy ground-dwelling ways. And the gopher language to squirrels is kinda like Portuguese to Spaniards--throw in some weird vocabulary words and peculiar pronunciations, and you can make a go of it.  ~takes one last drag of the Lucky Strike, then puts out the stub~ Okay, that's it. Consider yourselves warned. The day of the space gophers is nigh.
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