The Ultimate Ironic Moment

Submitted by: squrlz4ever 1 year ago in News & Politics
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Male 1,682
I don't think your talking about libertarians your talking about anarchists a hole different animal you "scalawag little rodent." And again the over regulation in America is a bad thing. Look up the EPA it started I think back in the 1960 with three people with the Idea to help America to keep from importing oil from out side the U.S.A. now look at it. A juggernaut of rules and regulations with a unjust and almost unstoppable reach. And let us not bring up the IRS. they can ruin your life with out so much as a how do you do or even a reach around.
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Male 4,945
If the Libertarians are not for the elimination of virtually all forms of government regulation and taxation, that's news to me. From their party platform: "The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.... We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion [my emphasis] over their own lives.... We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution." Do I need to go on? As far as your fairy tale concerning the EPA, I'm sorry, but you've really been misinformed. The Environmental Protection Agency was founded after Ohio's Cuyahoga River caught fire in 1969. Yes, you read that correctly: The river was so filled with volatile chemicals and oil slicks that the river literally caught fire. It was at that point that the general public said, "You know what? We really need an agency to identify the businesses that are dumping toxic waste into our waterways and, if necessary, shut them down so this stops happening." This is not obscure history. You can read more about it here.
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Male 2,694
Come on you scalawag little rodent. There's a difference between "promote the general welfare" and what (I'll just take your one example here) the EPA does in reality. Like proclaim a sand and gravel pit or a drainage ditch to be "navigable waters" then tossing their weight around forcing legal action that went all the way to the supreme court before it got smacked down as the abuse of authority that it was.
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Male 4,945
I like the phrase "scalawag little rodent." That should be my job description around here: "Official scalawag little rodent of the IAB community."  :)  Regarding the topic at hand, I'd say you've now elevated the topic to the realm of adult discussion. It's perfectly reasonable to debate the specifics of how government agencies operate. (I'd add that a starting point for an adult discussion is the acceptance that no one particularly likes dealing with a bureaucracy and no one particularly likes being regulated, so if that's the soul basis of the complaint, get over it.) My particular problem with so many of the liberatartians is that they want to do away with government entirely, excepting the Department of Defense. That's just juvenile, frankly.
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Male 7,934
Agreed.
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Male 1,682
How you equate less government to not wanting a fire department or clean water and power is beyond me. If you think this you don't have a clue to what freedom from government interference means.
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Male 4,945
Ah, you want somone to put out fires, ensure clean water, and oversee the fair and equitable distribution of public utilities, like your electricity? So you do support the U.S. Forest Service, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Department of Energy, then? And you don't begrudge the existence of a federal agency that must exist in order to collect those tax dollars? Well, that's good to hear!  :)
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