Exposing Anti-Religious Brainwashing Agenda by Militant Atheists

Submitted by: monkwarrior 1 year ago in Lifestyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERL1ACYlFRs
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Female 4,086
religion is a lot like a penis. its great if you have one, and its great if you're proud of yours, but please don't try to shove it down my throat or the throats of my kids. simple but slightly crude; definitely to the point. and please don't think that i'm being disrespectful, because i am not. i live in the south and its just wearying having to pretend i'm something i'm not, i.e., religious. i have a true and great admiration and respect for people who LIVE their religion and don't use it to prop up their own inadequacies. however i do not respect people who use their religion as an excuse for everything from rudeness, intolerance, and general bad behavior through thievery and sexual abuse, working up to mass murder and beyond.
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Male 107
I am an Atheist, I live by generally accepted Judeo-Christian morals. SIMPLY BECAUSE THOSE ARE RIGHT. I have no problems with your religion, or practising it. I still say merry christmas and all that. And if believing in a god makes you happy and a better person, great, Keep at it and don't bother me about the fact that I don't believe or think less of me because of that. If you believe that the good book is a factual account of events in its entirety, and not just a book of stories about magical beings and things that are not possible that are used to relate an underlying message, then we may have a little bit of a problem, probably manifested in me just smiling and nodding when you relate that story about the time you saw an angel. Now here is the crux (...) of the issue. My belief, if you will, is that your actions have no effect on what happens to you after you die. If you were an incredible shithead your empty meatsack might get a tour of the town tied to a rope behind a truck, but little else will happen when you slip this mortal coil. Furthermore, I think that if your actions are only guided by a chance of salvation or damnation, your intentions are not as pure, nor are they righteous. More wars have been started and people killed while invoking the name of god (not saying because of religion or god, there is a wee bit of a difference), than for any other stated reason. The true drive may have been greed or land, or survival etc. but it is more palatable when you say for "god and country" instead of "We need to kill them because I need more gold.". And to be honest, I think it is a weakness to say something happened because of god. I digress, it is a weakness to simply allow things because that is "gods will". And if a god demands worship, or they will not allow you into some otherworldly paradise, no matter how good of a person you were, how small and petty must this deity be? And if you call me a sheep, and demand that you be followed without question, well, there is a reason why there is a phrase, "like lambs to the slaughter". And ponder this at least once before thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. "...the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air—look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire—why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors. What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world. The paragon of animals. And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me. No, nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so." ~Hamlet
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Male 3
Yes, emotive language, you wouldn't get Christians using emotive language. I've been with the Salvation ARMY for years, we sing great songs on street corners like "FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT" and "ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS", you can read all about it in the WAR CRY. Christians would never dream of brainwashing children either, we simply tell them they are going to be tortured forever in a fiery pit of hell if t he don't accept Jesus. And we use gentle visual imagery like statues of a Christ being executed by being nailed to a cross.
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Male 14,834
It's not brainwashing; it's DE-PROGRAMMING. Take away the bullshit and formerly religious people will inquire and see the truth. I'm not militant; I am purely rational. I'm not suggesting we behead or burn people who believe in bullshit, that's what militant religious people do. All I'm saying is we atheists are fed up of being told not to speak up in case we 'offend' religious nuts or their imaginary friends. It's not like "Please don't tell your little brother that Santa is a ruse". Kids who believe in St Nick don't screw up the lives of kids who don't believe in him.
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Male 537
Militant? Jesustittyfuckingchrist, last time i checked, there haven't been any atheist suicide bombers or any atheist blowing up planned parenthoods. just sayin.
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Male 5,816
I'm an atheist. I absolutely believe that there is no God. Assuming I'm correct then, yes, it's wrong to teach kids that God exists. I also recognize that I don't know everything and I could be wrong. In that case people should teach their kids about God. That one's a tough issue. But activist (they're NOT "militant") atheists, of which I am not one, are simply (over)reacting to the years of attempted intervention by the religious. In this country, at least, it's those of the Christian faiths who are most guilty of this. The so-called Sunday "blue laws" are a prime example. Why should I be restricted from shopping on a Sunday because of someone else's beliefs? This especially hits hard at the orthodox Jews who can't, due to their beliefs, shop on Saturday until after nightfall. They only have weekdays after work or Sundays. There are a lot of wonderful, giving, loving religious people out there, of all faiths, and atheists as well. The message in the video is correct but faulted in that it's one-sided. Atheists and, to at least some degree, the non-Christian religious have been dunned for years by the religious Christian community, don't be so shocked and upset that some are fighting back.
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Male 537
Nail + Head = broizfam
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Female 2,764
Religion is what you need it to be. Leave people alone unless they intrude on your life with it (which most don't I find). Don't blame masses of religious people for a few extremists. Religion has helped many loved ones with life struggles. They are good people who have gotten by trials with faith in God. They hurt and bother no one.
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Male 2,028
Religion is used as a scapegoat for extremists. If the extremists have believing that what they're doing has anything to do with religion then you've been fooled. Muslims, Islamists, Christians, Buddhists, Atheists, whatever ...we all have ONE common ground....LOVE!! It's the sick twisted extremists not religion. Extremists or fundamentalists of any stripe (atheist included), are dangerous, angry people. It's far to easy to blame religion. Heck if anything is to be blamed for war, violence, etc... It's corporate interests and greed.
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Male 14,834
The writings of both Christianity and Islam are pretty explicit about how you are required to violently deal with differing opinion and people who break your arbitrary laws of imaginary slight against your imaginary friend. It is mainstream western interpretation that chooses to quietly sweep it under the carpet. Why do they do this? Because secular rationalists have fought to change the culture for good. In the eyes of the rational atheist (and we are many but most of us won't speak up for fear of persecution) you and the tattered remnants of your 'traditional' Christian beliefs are an impediment to equality, true ethical behaviour and scientific and cultural progress. You are welcome to celebrate your imaginary BFF in the privacy of your own home, but keep your fairytales to yourself. Moderators wouldn't post Scientology propaganda or muslim guff here, except for us to all mock them and you can expect to receive the same. You are no different to the Mormons who show up at your house during Sunday lunch and ask you to spare the time to talk about your relationship with god.
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Male 2,028
You went into full-out fallacy mode there man. Love is the lessons of the scriptures. Love.
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Male 3,402
All you need is love? John Lennon was right?
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Male 2,028
Yes, but you'll need more than John Lennon to understand the 'how'
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Male 3,462
My take on it is that religion is fine. Being spiritual is fine. Believing in whatever the hell one wants is fine. Take all that and add "as long as nothing else (children, animals, society as a whole) is being influenced" to all the previous sentences. However, -organized religion- is a blight. -Organized religion- takes my addendum an does it. IE, parents often force their children to attend services, and in some cases indoctrinates them to believe things that they may not had they not been forced to go. Sacrificing animals used to be a big part of religion. -Organized religion- has affected society negatively throughout history, the Crusades; 9/11; these attacks over the weekend. I attack the organization, and not the individual, mind you. I attack any large organization (religious leaders, governments, Microsoft, Apple, etc) because they have the power to change the world, and often times, they make bad decisions for society based on what they think everyone should believe/have/etc.
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Male 1,284
where was god yesterday where is god when that 17 children under the age of 5 that die every minute or so (usually in pain and suffering) Oh that's right God has a plan At best God (pronounced with a southern evangelist's lisp) Is indifferent or a Sadomasochist if he existed at all
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Male 1,151
What the literal fuck is this garbage?
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Male 7,123
Sing along if you you know the words. No saviour from on high delivers, No faith have we in prince or peer. Our own right hand the chains must shiver, Chains of hatred, greed and fear.
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Male 4,893
Monk - I'm afraid you won't find much sympathy for religion here on the internet.
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Male 2,028
The point of the video was to point out the logical fallacies used by many people.
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Male 4,893
Logic to support Religion? They are incompatible. I see what you are doing. You are turning the tables. The biggest problem with religion is the lack of logic. Two can play that game. If religion wants to use logic, then atheists only need faith to prove you wrong.
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Male 2,028
No they're not incompatible turd, but i get you think they are due to your reliance on the personal incredulity fallacy. Don't you know it was the church that helped establish hospitals and universities and schools of education to help teach logic, and the sciences so that we could understand this great creation better and help one another even more? Wake up man, drop your illogical reliance on the fallacy!
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Male 8,132
This is simple. Knowledge erases religion. The internet has unchained knowledge. Religion is fucked and with each generation becomes less and less important. Once people don't have their books of fairy tales and imaginary friends telling them to blow people up, or tell other people how to live their lives the world will be a better place.
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Male 2,028
Actualy it's not like that at all HG. Knowledge of faith in God is increasing, as you say, because the Internet has unchained knowledge. What before took months and years of correspondence to understand can now be done in an evening, while many people listening in further their knowledge of God. Even scriptures themselves indicate knowledge would increase near the end, as it has been. And ultimately the world will not have peace without love, and love is what the true religions of the world teach. You can cling to personal incredulity all you like, but sooner or later you will have to let it go.
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Male 384
actually, it totally is just like that. "god" was a construct created to explain that which could not be explained. that which cannot be explained grows smaller everyday. sorry, too any of us have known too many "religious" people, and too many of us have seen that the nrom is they are not good, and that it is only a small portion of them that are... i posit that those few good examples would be good people without an imaginary friend. also, i know plenty of people that know peace and love without religion, and in fact the percentage is, in my experience, just soooo much higher with people that dont practice a religion, than people that do. you can try and tel me otherwise all you want, but evidence points to you being wrong, my experience in life points to you being wrong, and history shows that you are, without a doubt, absolutely wrong.
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Male 2,028
Actually you're completely wrong. Love is what the true religions of the world teach, and while many people may be loving, as you say, it takes the deep lessons of love that the religions of the world teaches for someone to deeply understand love. Yes, people may understand love in this day and age because how much these lessons are taught on the internet (as scripture mentioned knowledge would increase), but they still have their basis in religion. So all these 'good' people you say may have actually been learning from religion, even though they may not be religious. While you may think you are a good judge of love, and may be (i don't know), your quickness to belittle 'religious' people (division) and that they have an 'imaginary friend' completely works against you. So rest assured, it is history speaks against what you speak of, because all of history is speaking that the love God teaches is the way for us all.
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Male 2,028
Draculya: well when all you have is insults, you know you've lost, as everyone else does..
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Male 14,834
screwzlooose, there's no arguing with Monkey. His only response to logic is to chant his mantra louder. You have to get to work on them younger; let's make December 23rd National Take The Mick Out Of A Christian Child Day.
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Male 2,163
Pure Crap. History shows that Christians are one of the most violent groups of people ever. The end of religion will be the start of reasoning. Good bye old gods.
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Male 2,028
You're doing exactly what the video was talking of, showing how ridiculous it is. Quick to point out the few bad apples and ascribe them to the whole barrel, while completely ignoring the immense good and good things that Christianity, and Christians have done and are doing.
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Male 14,834
On balance Monkey, I don't think Christians do nett good at all. Even Christian donations for charitable purposes are mostly used to enrich the ministry. Christianity has been all about manipulating people for personal gain from the moment of the crucifixion. Jesus didn't write Revelations; nor did he preach it. It changed the whole message to an apocalyptic war of good vs evil and please donate to the war effort because I need another Bentley.
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Male 2,405
Yeah Drac, no true Scotsman...err religious person would be so greedy.
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Male 2,405
Monk, Am I supposed to respond with "Actually, Jesus was a Jew"? (You're presenting a Straw-man); You weren't referring to Jesus, but instead his followers (presumably, because you were initially ambiguous regarding a specific religion).
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Male 2,028
Unfortunately for you, there is one true Christian: Christ the Lord
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Male 2,028
most people who live by true religion will gladly help others, and it is about love, harmony and peace, not money.
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Male 7,123
Poor religious people, so persecuted. I hear that in the USA if you identify as a Christian you just can't get elected to office. It's brutal.
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Male 2,028
The video is to help people understand the ridiculousness of logical fallacies being used to promote lies against people who live by religion and do immense good.
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