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  1. Profile photo of SweepOfDeath
    SweepOfDeath Male 18-29
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    August 18, 2014 at 10:13 am
    Link: Which Is Worse? - The one you cannot spell out on TV, that`s the worse one... but why?
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:04 pm
    They are both descriptors that are meant for derogatory purposes, so they are equal- in theory; But not in practice.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm
    Yeah I`d guess the one you`re NOT allowed to say is worse...

    Journalists! The best and brightest, eh?
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    barry9 Male 70 & Over
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:22 pm
    As Louis CK says: "The worst you can call me, the -worst-, is `cracker`. Oh no, you`re taking me back to a time when whites owned people".

    One of the etymologies of `cracker` being the white foreman cracking the whip over slaves.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm
    Context dependent.
    Lenny Henry didn`t seem to mind:It`s a Cracker!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:34 pm
    And, of course, it depends on who uttered it, now don`t it?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:42 pm
    Sorry, but, no, not equal at all. One has a few hundred years of all manner of oppression behind it in this country alone. You can`t just magically make that go away as if it never happened. The other has absolutely no power of oppression behind it other than to make a few white males show their behinds. Not the same.
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    AGit Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:46 pm
    Slow news day, I guess...
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:52 pm
    The fact that one of the words could be said on air and the other couldn`t kinda gives the answer away...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 3:59 pm
    The fact that one of the words could be said on air and the other couldn`t kinda gives the answer away...

    Not really it points out hypocrisy...what about honkey? See even this site does it.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 4:00 pm
    That and the whole our word thing.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm
    Whitey, cracker, honky, gringo...none of these bother me in the least because 1) if you use these words, I have absolutely no respect for your opinion, and 2) deep down, I know there`s nothing wrong with being white.
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    oobaka Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 4:34 pm
    All this talk of the `N` word made me turn on Grand Theft Auto 5.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 5:28 pm
    Well, they said "N word" but not "C word" so I think they answered their own question.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    August 18, 2014 at 6:19 pm
    You want the n word? Listen to Katt Williams. He can`t go three words without using it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 7:33 pm
    As Louis CK says: "The worst you can call me, the -worst-, is `cracker`. Oh no, you`re taking me back to a time when whites owned people".

    One of the etymologies of `cracker` being the white foreman cracking the whip over slaves.

    If that`s a true etymology (and I can`t be bothered to check), then a reasonable case could be made that `cracker` is worse because it`s more insulting. Even if you take the worst definition of the Magic Word We Must Not Write, i.e. `slave`, then it`s still nowhere near as bad. Who`s worse? Someone who`s been enslaved or someone who whips slaves? I`d say it`s the latter by a huge margin. Having something done to you isn`t a reflection on you. Doing something to someone else is.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 7:56 pm
    Yeah... "C word" means a whole other thing...
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 18, 2014 at 8:33 pm
    Blacks are oversensitive and have violent tendencies, so we have to tiptoe around them.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
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    August 18, 2014 at 9:12 pm
    "poon-tiiy rebasac" is worse. The Redskins may change their name to it.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    They are the same. Whites choose to not care about cracker.

    Blacks CHOOSE to care about nigg3R...(when white people say it)

    One thing I`ve learned...It`s a waste of time to argue this argument. People (not just black people) love to play the victim. If they want that word to them selves...fine. It`s free.

    Besides, it just sounds weird when white guys say it. Like when we were young and our parents would use slang and try to sound "hip" or "cool".

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    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
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    August 19, 2014 at 1:12 am
    Most of us our white. We`re allowed an opinion but we`re automatically wrong unless we agree that one is worse.
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    Johanvb Male 40-49
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    August 19, 2014 at 2:22 am
    @turdburglar

    I wholeheartedly agree with you. If I look around me I see different minority groups calling me stuff that is offensive or blaming me for stuff that the generation of my great grandfather did to the generation of their great grandfather.

    I do not go around crying that i am discriminated or criminalised (i might joke about the fact, but i do not start Facebook pages or organise rallies to take a stand).
    And that i am discriminated against (as a white male) is proven by the fact that wanted ads may say (in my country) `women or people from ethnic descent will have our preference`.
    If i would have an ad out that say `white males will have our preference` the world would explode.
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    barry9 Male 70 & Over
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    August 19, 2014 at 2:59 am
    Angilion, that`s the most twisted definition I`ve read in a long time. You`re desperate to keep the white-as-victim story going.

    There is so much white butthurt in this thread, it`s hilarious. Waaah, no-one hurts as much as me, a white guy! Waaah! Whites are superior because we *choose* not to be offended!

    Christ, what a pack of wankers. Why does it have to be a drating competition? Why is it so hard to say "drat, `I am a racist!` has a pooload of baggage associated with it, so let`s just not use that word"? It`s also hilarious that the small amount of anti-white racism is held up as something that equally balances the huge amount of racism against minorities. Get a grip, people. It doesn`t have to be a competition, and it`s okay to say "hey, people of this other demographic actually do have a harder time in general".

    The irony is that the people who talk about `choosing` not to be offended... are still talking about it and drawing focus
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    barry9 Male 70 & Over
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    August 19, 2014 at 3:01 am
    ah, `i am a racist` below is the autoreplacement for the n-word we`re all talking about.

    I`m still not used to the profanity filter of a site that shows tits and arse all over the place, yet feels the need to use `poo` instead of s#it
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    Johanvb Male 40-49
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    August 19, 2014 at 4:14 am
    Tim Minchin tells it like it is.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    August 19, 2014 at 4:37 am
    Thanks Johanvb, best post today.
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    Mikeman64 Male 40-49
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    August 19, 2014 at 6:47 am
    Hmm I bet the white guy in the middle is thinking "I better watch every damn word I say or I am getting the Sh#t beat out of me in the parking lot"
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    yelloow12 Male 18-29
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    August 19, 2014 at 8:21 am
    @barry9
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
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    August 19, 2014 at 10:01 am
    @McGovern1981, "Not really it points out hypocrisy...what about honkey? See even this site does it."

    No, it`s still the answer. Hypocrisy is just your explanation for WHY it`s the answer.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 19, 2014 at 11:48 am
    @turdburglar,
    No, not the same. The "N" word means, "Because of the color of your skin, you`re clearly inferior and worthless except as a slave. "Cracker" is an insult but what it really means is, "You`re a member of the group that opressed my forefathers because we were thought to be inferior and only worthy of being slaves." I`d say that`s rather less of an insult.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
    616 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm
    @turdburglar I think that`s sort of a skewed way to view things, maybe some people are just tired of being or feeling like the victims?

    One thing I`ve learned is that people have different motivations for saying different words. The same words used in one context may be appropriate between 2 parties, and the same words used by 2 different parties can have a completely different dichotomy.

    It seems as though some WHITES pretend to be oblivious to this (when it comes to black people).
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm
    No, it`s still the answer. Hypocrisy is just your explanation for WHY it`s the answer.

    Why`s that? If a black person says either it`s ok there by hypocrisy.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    August 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm
    The times they are a changing, I agree with turdburglar. It`s only when whites become a minority that we will be heard.
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
    1380 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 1:04 pm
    Let me see if I can help you here.

    Question: is the N-word worse than Cracker?
    Answer: The fact that you can`t say the N-Word means it is worse.

    Hypocrisy may explain WHY the N-word is considered worse, but it still doesn`t make them equal.

    That clear things up?
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
    616 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm
    @drawman61 Heard about what, what are the grievances that aren`t being heard about?
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    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
    997 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm
    The times they are a changing, I agree with turdburglar. It`s only when whites become a minority that we will be heard

    Come to London white english is 40% I still here how we`re an oppressive majority...
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    August 19, 2014 at 2:51 pm
    @Mr_Pedo_Bear what`s the % of the largest minority group in England?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 19, 2014 at 3:27 pm
    Let me see if I can help you here.

    Question: is the N-word worse than Cracker?
    Answer: The fact that you can`t say the N-Word means it is worse.

    Hypocrisy may explain WHY the N-word is considered worse, but it still doesn`t make them equal.

    That clear things up?

    Not really one group says both without concern while the other doesn`t care about words which is why they`re not equal.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
    616 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm
    @McGovern1981 One group doesn`t care about words...

    Some people care about words. Some people don`t care about words. Most people know which words people care about and understand why they care and either a) use the words anyway, because they feel like it and those are there views which they are entitled to, or b) don`t use the words in the wrong setting, because it can offensive.

    Then there`s one group of people who claim they don`t share the views associated with the word, don`t care about the word, yet have an issue not saying the word in the wrong setting as it can be taken as an offense.

    This is more than just the N word, girls call each other the B word all the time, if a guy call her one it will be offensive. This is no new anomaly to anyone who is not socially inept, yet when it comes to race it`s amazing to see people who are normally reasonable throw all reason away and claim ignorance to this fact.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    mischeif954 -

    Still don`t agree with you.
    Some people "are allowed" to say n-word while others can`t. It`s hypocritical, but I can look past that. But....
    It gets better.
    When it comes to insulting white people you double down on the hypocrisy. Whites aren`t allowed to be offended. If I tell you that the word cracker or honkey really truly deeply offends me, you would think I`m being stupid.

    With that said...I don`t really care that much. They can have their word.

    I`m not complaining about it. Some issues just aren`t worth complaining about, but let`s not pretend that it`s not a hypocritical double standard.

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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 19, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    broizfam -

    That`s one way to look at it.
    They are both insults and are the same in my book.

    Don`t you think you are downplaying the insult for white people? If you call me a cracker, you are accusing me of being a racist. You are insulting me for something I had no part in, and have never condoned. You imply that I`m less of a human and I should be ashamed for something I have no control over. I`d say it`s a pretty serious word.

    When you use the N-word you`re insulting someone while acknowledging they are black.

    See what I did there? Same thing as you did. Except I down played the N-word instead.

    I think they can both be equally insulting. They are both racist terms. You`ve decided that one is worse based on the race it offends. That`s being racist, but no big deal...it doesn`t count when whites are offended.

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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm
    @turdburglar,
    I agree...they are both certainly insults. The reason I think the so-called "N" word is worse is because I feel it implies an expectation on the part of the user of worthlessness of the person/people it refers to. Being a racist is inappropriate but doesn`t presuppose a lack of worth.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
    2676 posts
    August 19, 2014 at 7:22 pm
    I didn`t know the cracker/whip-cracker thing. I always thought it referenced dry white saltine-type crackers. :D I would think calling someone a whip-cracker would be giving them more "authority/ego" than you want them to have, no? I mean, can you imagine a black person calling a white person "master" as an insult? I think, as an insult, it would fail.

    Thought for the day: If blacks think that everything is "because they`re black" and have been historically offended by negro, colored, "the n-word", black, etc, etc, etc ... yet whites are rarely if ever offended by whitey, honkey, cracker, etc, etc, etc ...

    Not to say that the racism and discrimination don`t exist of course but ... it also sounds like some groups are just more sensitive (and loud about it) than others.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    August 19, 2014 at 9:59 pm
    The thing you don`t realize is that a lot of white people just have no clue about the word and this dialogue is a great example of that. To be clear I don`t care what words you use they are just words it`s this false air of not understanding why some people are offended by the word that is a tad bit annoying. You have the right to be offended by the words you used before and I don`t use those words for that reason I have nothing against white people to want to use those words.

    "If they want that word to them selves...fine. It`s free."

    A lot of latinos use the word freely, Eminem has used the word both in an offensive way which he apologized about, and also in the way other rappers use it which no one takes offense, I`ve also I`ve met white people who use the word and are closer to being an N word then I`ll ever be. Also depending on the setting a black person using the N word can be as offensive if not more offensive then coming from a white person.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 20, 2014 at 5:23 am
    You going to cover honky now or do you need more time for excuses?
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
    @McGovern,
    Good question. I never did hear what the derivation of honky was. I find that the only thing insulting about honky is that it`s an attempt to be insulting.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 20, 2014 at 10:02 am
    @mischeif954,
    "I`ve also I`ve met white people who use the word and are closer to being an N word then I`ll ever be."

    Very well said!
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    Daegog Male 30-39
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    August 18, 2015 at 3:59 pm
    I never understood why white people were not insulted by that term, UNTIL I LEFT THE COUNTRY.

    When you leave the country and you hear other people say things like "Yank Bastard or F**ing American" You just kinda smile and nod your head and think, ok pretty much.

    It`s the exact same reason that using a white racial term is not upsetting to most whites. It`s basically saying "you won".

    The ONLY racially charged insult i have ever heard that multiple white people actually found insulting was: snow monkey

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