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Gaza Rocket Launch Locations [Pic]

Lets talk civilian casualties in the Israeli vs. Hamas conflict.

You”re a LCpl in the USMC.

You”re on patrol in some Middle Eastern country. You don”t care about the politics or the controversy. The only thing you care about is getting home alive (hopefully in one piece) and making sure all of your buddies do too.

Suddenly out of nowhere you start taking fire from one of the few Christian churches in the region.

Do you…..

A. Return fire, assured in the fact that senior leadership will have your back because the enemy chose to make a place of worship a fortification and a legitamite target? Or….

B. Sit there and do nothing while your buddies die all around you…because its a place of worship?

Expand that to a “nation state”. What do you do when the enemy has militarized every Mosque, hospital, school, UN facility, residence etc….

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAMAS HAS DONE!

Check out the image above. How do you target only military installations when the entire area they control has been converted into a military installation? You accept the reality of the situation and act accordingly. Hamas has chosen to place its people in harms way.

The Israeli”s have accepted another cease fire. That”s unfortunate.How do you lower civilian casualties in this war? You finish the job as rapidly as possible. The cease fire works against that.

Well that didn”t last long.

Israel accepts a ceasefire (the same one I was railing against) and what does Hamas do? They launch an ambush and kidnap/kill Israeli soldiers. AMAZING! How can they get so slack in their force protection measures? This is not the Israeli military that I know!

Shows where the 2,900 rockets have been fired from. Hamas chose those launch sites on purpose.

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  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 2, 2014 at 7:42 am
    Link: Gaza Rocket Launch Locations - Shows where the 2,900 rockets have been fired from. Hamas chose those launch sites on purpose.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    August 3, 2014 at 10:51 am
    It`s because it`s a win/win for Hamas.
    If Israel doesn`t destroy the installation they can keep shooting and Hamas has won.
    If Israel does destroy it and civilians die in the attack Hamas has won even bigger because all the idiots world-wide scream "Israeli genocide". The awful fact is that the death of Palestinian children is to Hamas` advantage.
    Why wouldn`t they fire from residential areas?
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    ba12348 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    August 3, 2014 at 11:02 am
    @broizfam: You`re right. Because the world has forgotten what a war is. This goes for the US and its habit of ****ing around in other countries too; when you want to have a war, HAVE A WAR. People are going to DIE. That is a fact OF WAR.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2014 at 11:49 am

    What the F is with all the damn middle east garbage on IAB today?

    In my humble opinion...This topic is %$#$%#^#, STUPID, and doesn`t deserve this much (or ANY) attention on IAB.

    I have a feeling that many of these submissions were saved from the last few days, and posted all on the same day just to get it done and over with.

    If that IS the case, Great. It`s not a bad compromise. Still, it`s a bit of a shame to sacrifice an entire day at IAB for this topic.

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    Goldberstein Male 70 & Over
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    August 3, 2014 at 12:05 pm
    See? Thank you 5Cats, brilliant Goy and future Messiah. May you rise into Gan-Eden upon your death.
    -----
    Remember the sixty gorillion.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 3, 2014 at 12:22 pm
    why not show the map of casualties?
  7. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2014 at 12:32 pm
    @turdy: We had a break from it :-) but the war is still going on in many nations, people find it interesting because it`s important!

    Here`s some information that isn`t likely to be seen on the MSM: it shows just how many rockets are indeed fired from civilian areas.
    It`s a fact!

    And Hamas has HQs in various hospitals: another fact! But reporters there cannot mention it or they`ll be in mortal danger.
    Look how many "TV Interviews" Hamas leaders have given from inside that one hospital, why is that? Because everyone knows it`s a Headquarters.

    >Israel knows, THEY built it in 1983!~ As a Bomb shelter for the patients and staff...

    So when these buildings get blown up? It is 100% Hamas to blame. In my opinion.
    They`ve spent billions on tunnels and weapons, ZERO on protecting their own civilians.
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    DerryNH Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2014 at 12:48 pm
    turdburgler, you`ve got to admit that these posts have received more attention than most, just look at the number of comments. At least one of them is yours.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    5cats -
    I don`t think most people find this as interesting as you do. The comment/hit count is mostly the same bunch of people.

    It`s just my opinion, but I think IAB should focus more on entertainment, silly, funny, interesting stuff...with a touch politics and such.

    I definitely don`t think IAB should be used by a few to argue their political agenda/opinions.

    It`s not a personal attack against you. Think of it like this...Think of the most boring, lamest, stupid, uninteresting subject you can...something like Justin Bieber`s hair. How would you like it if a few people constantly submitted content, and took over a large piece of IAB for Bieber hair posts.

    I know you wouldn`t like it. You and I both love this place. I was just throwing my opinion out there. I know there are many others who are tired of this subject too. Have a nice day. Enjoy your arguing, I`m off to the gun posts to do the same.

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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2014 at 1:35 pm
    The answer to your question is A. Our ROE stated that if you witness active shooters in a house of worship you`re clear to engage.

    If we received fire from a building the first thing we do is assess the situation and try to determine who/what is in the building. If we have reason to believe there are non-combatants we engage on foot with small arms fire to minimize civilian casualties. If the area is clear of civilians we call in CAS.

    The difference between our ROE and what Israel does is that Israel doesn`t care about civilian casualties. Sure, that`s on Hamas for militarizing those facilities but at the same time Israel isn`t making any attempt to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. All that does is create a new generation of Hamas militants who hate Israel because their mom/dad/brother/sister/etc were killed by Israeli arty while walking to the store.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2014 at 1:42 pm
    turdburglar: "IAB should become eBaums World!"

    No thanks.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm
    WHoDat6484

    "The answer to your question is A. Our ROE stated that if you witness active shooters in a house of worship you`re clear to engage.

    If we received fire from a building the first thing we do is assess the situation and try to determine who/what is in the building. If we have reason to believe there are non-combatants we engage on foot with small arms fire to minimize civilian casualties. If the area is clear of civilians we call in CAS.

    The difference between our ROE and what Israel does is that Israel doesn`t care about civilian casualties. Sure, that`s on Hamas for militarizing those facilities but at the same time Israel isn`t making any attempt to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. All that does is create a new generation of Hamas militants who hate Israel because their mom/dad/brother/sister/etc were killed by Israeli arty while walking to the store."

    This. This. THIS. You f.ucking chicken hawks.
  13. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2014 at 2:16 pm
    @turdy: No worries!
    IAB has always had "spirited conversations" about "controversial subjects" eh?
    Of course there`s a line to be drawn somewhere as to how much arguing is too much...

    But since IAB posts BOTH sides of the issue(s) it`s fair game. Within reason of course.

    Why would the @Mods post Bieber?

    @WhoDat: The second part of your post is a lie. They warn people in advance. They break off attacks if civilians are present. These are well documented FACTS ok?

    And no, they`re not `perfect` OK? No army anywhere is.

    Q: How do you propose they should act? How to rid Gaza of terror tunnels and rockets?
    Diplomacy? With Hamas? Look how well that`s worked so far...

    YES -obviously- diplomacy is REQUIRED. DUH!

    Meanwhile? What else could Israel have done?
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    barry9 Male 70 & Over
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    August 3, 2014 at 2:49 pm
    How about turning it around and saying "say you are a weak country and a bigger country is slowly taking your land and forcing your people out, and enforcing an economic blockade. Do you just sit by and let them do it?". The argument that Israel is just sitting there minding its own business is naive.
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    llaa Male 30-39
    1664 posts
    August 3, 2014 at 3:50 pm
    Isreal should wipe out Hamas royally. Destroy their cities block by block until Hamas is either overthrown or admits defeat and recognizes peace.

    Otherwise there is no end to this drat up game Hamas plays. Ever seen how the Palestinian leadership lived when they controlled Gaza?


    This is an image of the PLO`s 2nd in commands villa in Tunisia.
    These draters are just as bad as american televangelists; preaching prosperity while their constituents live in poverty while they live it up.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    August 3, 2014 at 4:38 pm
    Would say lol but this is too serious. This is not news to anyone. The spin on this story, in 5Cats world: it is ok to kill all Palestinians trying to stop or slow it down is antiamerican, antidemocratic and antisemitism. Grow up. Both sides are wrong, one side has better guns than the other.
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    den3jlb Male 18-29
    364 posts
    August 3, 2014 at 4:56 pm
    "How about turning it around and saying "say you are a weak country and a bigger country is slowly taking your land and forcing your people out, and enforcing an economic blockade. Do you just sit by and let them do it?". The argument that Israel is just sitting there minding its own business is naive."

    This seems like a fair point, and is the one point that the muslims and lefties are regurgitating like broken records, but how about turning it round and saying that hamas are the reason for the blockades and land grabs? When the palestinians are given any freedom at all, hamas utilises this to shed Israeli blood. Blockades prevent this. No hamas, no blockades.
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    DeweyFinn Female 18-29
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    August 3, 2014 at 5:07 pm
    @den3jlb Saying that Hamas is the cause of problems in the Gaza Strip is quite naive, to say the least. All started way before Hamas existed. Ever heard of the second intifada?
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    DeweyFinn Female 18-29
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    August 3, 2014 at 5:07 pm
    @whodat6484 completely agree with you

    War is governed by a set of laws, introduced to protect civilians. The repetition of the sickening `human shields` argument has made people forget that precisely because they`re used as a shield, you aren`t meant to shoot at them. Since when does calling someone a human shield, render them of their humanity?

    From Israel`s manual on the rules of warfare (2006) "Proportionality must be maintained: an act must not be performed if the damage to civilians/the environment exceeds the concomitant military benefit".

    Israeli government spokesmen said the attack on the UN school on 30th July, which resulted in the death of at least 15 Palestinians and injured 90, was in response to shootings from around the vicinity of the school.

    How in the world does a rocket strike on a mobile group of militants "exceed the concomitant military benefit" in this situation?

    Israel has been treated with impun
  20. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm
    @DeweyFinn: Hamas is a part of the PLO. They`ve "existed" in one form or another for quite a long time, with different names of course.
    Hamas is also part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Use of human shields is banned, you seem to overlook that. It is a war crime, that Hamas does on a daily basis. Their use of UN buildings, hospitals and western reporters as "cover" is also immoral and illegal.

    What should Israel do? Surrender? Just let Hamas do as they please? No one else seems to care when Israelis get slaughtered by various terror groups, or invaded by Arabic Armies...

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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2014 at 7:04 pm
    @whodat 100% agreement.

    "What should Israel do?"

    Retreat and finally define once and for all Israel to 1967 borders (which is still more than the UN mandate), remove ALL illegal settlements, give Palestine full independence (that means end ALL occupation). Israel refuses to define it`s borders, this is the MAIN problem.

    Israel is and has been continuously annexing lands and homes deemed Palestine year after year.
  22. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2014 at 8:12 pm
    @paperduck: There is nothing "deemed Palestine" except the nation of Jordan. The West Bank is "disputed" land, as is Gaza.

    You imagine Hamas will stop if Israel withdrew? You DO know that they consider ALL of Israel "occupied Palestinian land". You DID read their charter, right?

    The 67 border is nonsense: EVERY border on Earth has been re-drawn at one time or another. That`s reality.

    Gaza is entirely free, no Jews there.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2014 at 10:40 pm
    @5cats the land that was deemed Palestine occurred simultaneously when the Israel was deemed Israel by the UN. Most Palestinians already living in Israel have been driven out and the lands that remained have been occupied since are either being massacred or being slowly picked away via settlements.

    We are witnessing that what you`re saying Hamas is threatening to do to Israel is ACTUALLY being done to Palestinians by Israel.

    What are Palestinians supposed to do if Israel refuses to define its friggin borders and just keeps encroaching on them with the nebulous argument that "borders change". Who would accept that?
  24. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 3, 2014 at 11:18 pm
    Well that didn`t last long.
    ~90 minutes, actually.

    No more letting them up for a standing 8 count; it`s time for ground and pound. Israel shouldn`t let up on Hamas until they get an unconditional surrender.

    Meanwhile, I still think Israel should implement a completely hands-off computerized system that instantly and automatically launches a counterstrike against any location from which a rocket is launched. If Hamas launches a rocket from a hospital, THEY will by their action be launching a counterstrike on that hospital.

    Israel should announce the activation of the system 1 hour before it goes into effect and let Hamas know that it will be permanent.
  25. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 3, 2014 at 11:31 pm
    Most Palestinians already living in Israel have been driven out...
    More left-wing Nazi propaganda. The Palestinian "refugees" left Israel because they thought their Arab neighbors were going to conquer the Jews and drive them out. Many of them took up arms against Israel, and now they`re all butt-hurt because Israel doesn`t want them back. I say f*** `em. They`ve been languishing in refugee camps for three generations because 1) they won`t get up off their lazy asses and build a civilized society where they are, and 2) their fellow Arabs want nothing to do with them.

    The Muslim Arabs who stayed in Israel now have more civil rights than Arabs anywhere else in the world. They have every right that is enjoyed by the Jews except that they cannot serve in the military. They can live anywhere they want, drive, vote, and even hold seats in the parliament. They can even be gay and not have to worry about being tortured and executed.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2014 at 11:56 pm
    @oldollie not propaganda at all. You should be old enough to remember this but I guess not. Read up on the Haganah and Irgun.. Note activities and their dates. No Hamas back then.
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    DeweyFinn Female 18-29
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    August 4, 2014 at 4:16 am
    @5cats You`re right, if it`s proven that Hamas are using human shields, they should be punished accordingly. Israel should not be using it as an excuse to slaughter innocent civilians.We should criticise Hamas` and Israel`s actions. However, as an occupying power and as the aggressor, Israel has certain responsibilities. They`re not allowed to claim defence over an occupied territory.

    Hamas is definitely not a memberof the PLO and that has been one of the main problems (in terms of coherent policies).

    Gaza and West Bank are only `disputed` in the eyes of some in Netanyahu`s cabinet. Borders change under international treaties and agreements, not by a refusal to define one`s own.
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    DeweyFinn Female 18-29
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    August 4, 2014 at 4:35 am
    @Oldollie, it would be good to read paperduck`s links. Checking out Plan Dalet and the Nakba might also be a good idea.

    I wish it were true that Arab Israelis enjoy equal rights to Jewish Israelis, but unfortunately that is very far from the truth. They are frequently exposed to racist attacks from extremist jewish people, face boycotts of their businesses and it is nearly impossible for them to lease or buy land. There was even a bill proposed to legally define them as second-class citizens.
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    AGit Male 30-39
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    August 4, 2014 at 6:13 am
    "More left-wing Nazi propaganda".

    Sick of seeing this utter stupidity, the embarrassment of the right wing trying to convince others that Nazis were left wing has being going on far too long, and is complete hogwash. You are either a dullard or a provocateur. But amusing, fair`s fair.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 4, 2014 at 6:31 am
    @paperduck You should be old enough to know that Wikipedia cannot be trusted as a reliable unbiased source of information on any political matter.

    Of course, I don`t expect people like you to think Jews have the right to protect themselves from being slaughtered. Neither did the Mufti of Jerusalem or his ally Adolf Hitler. Birds of a feather...
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 4, 2014 at 8:53 am
    @OldOllie that`s a clever way to frame it but let`s be honest, "protect themselves" as hundreds of thousands were being shipped in from Europe into "settlements" AKA colonies on top of Palestinian lands?

    What would be YOUR response if Mexican cartels shipped hundreds of thousands of Mexicans and into American towns and cities and then claimed they were "protecting themselves" by clearing out us white people because we don`t want them?

    Thought so.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
    @paperduck: Um, millions of illegals HAVE CROSSED the US border, so AS USUAL you analogy makes no sense at all.

    But at least they don`t cross for the SOLE PURPOSE of murdering Americans, eh?

    And Mexico doesn`t fire rockets at Los Angeles...

    So what`s you point? None. As usual.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 4, 2014 at 8:36 pm
    @5cats thanks for making my point even more clear. If Jews arrived from Europe to Palestine without the intention of driving out Arabs from the towns and cities with terror groups like Irgun and Haganah, there would only be a problem of immigration similar to Mexicans coming to the US and not genocide.

    If Mexicans were arriving to the US, driving out Americans in a "Mexification" plan, where Americans are relegated to occupation and checkpoints all over your own neighborhoods, you and OldOllie would be singing a different tune.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 4, 2014 at 11:46 pm
    @paperduck Also, our constitution doesn`t call for the extermination of Mexicans, either. That makes your analogy a rare TRIPLE fail!
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    August 5, 2014 at 6:10 am
    @OldOllie umm Hamas didn`t exist back then so... There was no charter. Jews, Muslims and Christians coexisted peacefully until Israel`s Jewish exclusivity came on the scene. The only thing that has failed is your capacity to comprehend.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2015 at 2:41 pm
    A Year Later:

    The rockets have slowed, probably because: Israel`s blockade is working! :-)

    Hamas`s membership is all former PLO members, who were p*ssed off that the PLO wasn`t EXREME ENOUGH! Various "splinter groups" coalesced into Hamas/Fatah. I`m not sure when those two split up, but they used to be one group.
    To claim "Hamas didn`t exist" is like saying NOTHING THE USA DID before 2008 has any bearing on Obama`s presidency! Because HE wasn`t the President!
    See how silly that is?

    Meanwhile: The Jews "drove out" Palis buy BUYING THEIR LAND at a much higher than market price! How TERRIBLE! Giving them good money for crappy land, voluntarily accepted!

    it is Hamas which MURDERS those who sell to Jews, NOT the other way around.

    Exceptions may exist? But the 90/10 rule applies here...

    And "settlements" are allowed to grow under UN Rules! NO ONE complains when Palis expand THEIR "dis
  37. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 3, 2015 at 2:49 pm
    Co-existed peacefully?
    Under the Ottoman: NO Jews were allowed to immigrate. ZERO.
    ALL non-Muslims where "Dhimmi" and thus second-class at best.

    Under Britain? NO JEWS were allowed to immigrate! The Brits "played off" Muslims and Jews so they`d fight each other, just like EVERY BRITISH COLONY EVER, duh?

    "Palestine" was a huge area, NOT a nation. It used to be called "Judea" too... same land.

    To claim the 67 borders are "the only" ones is STUPID. Plain and simple.

    The PLO was offered HUGE tracts of land and TONS of freedoms, and they rejected it.
    Why?
    Again I remind y`all:

    "Palestine" includes ALL OF ISRAEL. So until EVERY JEW is driven out of Palestine? They will never make peace. Period.

    It`s right there in writing! Duh?

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