Scientists Discover Atheists Might Not Exist[Pic+]

Submitted by: drawman61 2 years ago in Science

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Thank god for that
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Male 6,077
@CrakrJak,
Absolutely incorrect. It DOES mean not living by laws that are "God`s laws" which have nothing to to with appropriate societal behavior like no meat on Fridays (I know that one`s gone), Kosher laws, rules about how or with whom to have sexual relations, etc.
Your argument is uncharacteristically poor. If you`re suspicious of atheists because we don`t believe in your god that`s fine, but don`t just make stuff up.
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Male 2,850
@CrakrJak

"It goes into not wanting to live by societies rules and laws"

It means nothing of the sort and you damn well know it.
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Male 17,511
Pooptart: It goes well beyond not believing. It goes into not wanting to live by societies rules and laws, then making up your own as you go along.

That way they`re never "guilty" of anything because they felt they did what was right at the time.

Sorry but that`s NOT being moral, that`s being immoral and giving lame excuses for it.
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Male 6,077
@Pooptart19,
Thank you!
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Male 4,431
@papajon0s1: your scale idea, while I see your point, doesn`t work. Atheism is not on the same scale as theism because to have it so implies, as you point out that there`s "middle ground" or "values between". There`s not. Atheism means that one doesn`t believe in a higher power or powers. Period. If you want something to put at or near zero in your scale, you need to enter agnonsticism or maybe even latitudinarianism. Atheists don`t believe in gods. Period. There is no scale, no common path, between that and theism.
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Male 2,440
[quote]Atheism is nothing more than a philosophy where the individual can choose to adhere to a rule because he or she feels it is right. For those rules they choose to ignore, they simply point to the Ten Commandments and state that they do not need some imaginary being to make up rules for them. Basically, just another animal on Earth.[/quote]

Atheism is a theological position. It is simply the rejection of the claim that a god or gods exist. That is all. End of story. Sheesh.
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Male 4,745
Saw the words "People are born believers." and stopped reading.

I`m an Atheist because religion is one of the most ridiculous things I`ve ever heard. Because the whole thing is built on a house of cards and was set up to control the masses. When you are on the outside, it is SO blatantly obvious. That`s why we are so vocal about it.
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Male 729
Atheism is nothing more than a philosophy where the individual can choose to adhere to a rule because he or she feels it is right. For those rules they choose to ignore, they simply point to the Ten Commandments and state that they do not need some imaginary being to make up rules for them. Basically, just another animal on Earth.
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Male 579
I`m a devout Catholic and why I may not be convinced I buy this article`s theory, it does have some interesting points. If we agree that Atheism is a lack of belief in any "Gods` then can we put that on a sliding scale, say 1-10 where 1 is true Atheism, no belief at all, and 10 is the true faithful. I think this theory is trying to say the point is that this scale even exists. Is there something innate in hoomans predisposed to some form of "faith" (I define faith as belief without the burden of proof)? No? Are you sure you can prove that? There seems to be lots of things our minds do without us consciously doing them. I think with an open mind one could find fascinating things here, but certainly not much would come from those who comment on IAB, whenever this subject comes up, with instant anti-religious hatin`. At that point there is no useful discussion which is why I never go back and continue discussions in a forum setting like this. Hatin` breeds no us
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Male 1,397
Said with TYPICAL Religious arrogance :(
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Male 5,811
An inner monologue is not an "invisible friend." It`s just a way to process experience, and equating this "friend" with a god is nonsense.

"we all believe in a not dissimilar range of tangible and intangible realities"

The old "not/un" phrase? Also if 38% claim to believe in a higher power, that means 62% don`t; hardly a complete absence of atheism.

Religion is also not the product of evolution, but it might well be the byproduct of evolved tendencies. If he actually read Boyer he`d know that Boyer considers religion and belief in deities as byproducts, such as from tendencies to see agency, to be credulous when we`re young (it`s adaptive to believe what your elders tell you), or to deal with our knowledge of mortality.

I`d write more but this guy is just an idiot, not a scientist, reputable science doesn`t come from a "creativity research lab."
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Male 1,687
this stat. shows the article as just off 38% of people who identified themselves as atheist or agnostic went on to claim to believe in a God or a Higher Power (Pew Forum, “Religion and the Unaffiliated”, 2012).If you are one of these, your not an atheist by the very definition of the word I talk to my self I`m insane not talking to god.(I`m the only one who makes any sense.)
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Male 450
This got brought up in one of my classes. We all enjoyed a good laugh.
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Male 17,511
Where`s Your Science Now?!
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Male 3,231
huh, i thought that article would have been in the onion.com
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Male 12,365
Atheism is a lack of belief in gods.

Reading or writing stories about good things happening to people who do good things and bad things happening to people who do bad things isn`t belief in gods. Wanting that to happen in reality isn`t belief in gods. Even believing that it will happen in reality (despite the abundance of evidence showing otherwise) isn`t belief in gods. Not all irrational beliefs are belief in gods.

This is an example of starting from a conclusion and trying to prop it up, as well as an example of bad reporting of science.
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Male 2,675
I can hear it now ...

"I don`t believe in God."
"*condescending nod* Yes you do."
"Um, no. I don`t."
"Yeah you do."
"Look, f***er!..."

I don`t buy it anyway. I basically have two religions (long story) and even I`ll say that I "believe" because it`s comforting, it`s community, etc. Deep down inside, my logical side says that it`s ridiculously improbable and just plain ridiculous, period. ... so I find it hard to believe that "deep down inside, I believe", when exactly the opposite is the case in most logical minds.
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Male 4,431
When you start writing with a specific conclusion in mind, e.g. atheists are evil pooheads, you can bend your illegitimate "research" to conclude anything you want it to.

Notice that (most) atheists don`t say that religious folks can`t believe anything they want, (most) atheists just say that they (the atheists) don`t believe in a god and that they don`t want some god`s "rules" to be part of the laws that they`re forced to live under.
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Male 6,077
Nonsense.
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Male 1,106
Atheism itself, as a label, may be a LACK of belief in a god or external force on the universe. But I think everyone HAS a belief system of some sort that regulates their morals. That might be "everything must be done for the good of humanity, or a balance between humanity and individual rights," but regardless of what it is, no one is devoid of an innate sense of belief that drives them.
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Male 1,692
I dig it. Some interesting thoughts in the article, 2 thoughts.

Atheism is a bad term. Belief in nothing is a lacking description, people believe all sorts of things, just maybe not your wacky religion. I wonder if a child could be raised without any knowledge religion but only science their whole lives, would they believe or create a God? poo, would they suicide?

I`m disappointed in the author`s conclusions Re: the erosion of religion in Europe & Japan decreases their populations.

I believe that decreasing populations in some countries and cities is more of an economic issue rather than a religious issue. Capitalist markets without regulation will move towards monopolies and therefore create artificial scarcity (for profit) which makes it too expensive to both raise children and afford livable housing.
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Male 13,630
@Baphxiii
Said what I was going to say well done that man
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Male 91
Atheism isn`t a religion. Never has been or ever will be. It isn`t even a belief system, it is the LACK of a belief. Nothing more. Onoffonoffon, maybe your friend IS always right since you do not even know what Atheism is.
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Male 4,431
I guess that`s how theists justify forcing their religion into laws that are meant to govern us all instead of simply piously living by the rules of their religion themselves and leaving the rest of us to peacefully live under agnostic rules that respect everyone`s rights?
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Male 7,774
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