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55 Responses to GAZA: THE IDF EXPLAINS ITSELF

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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 8:59 am
    Link: GAZA: THE IDF EXPLAINS ITSELF - Take some pop corn and enjoy the cons bandwagon ranting about this video
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 1:02 pm
    0:38 "When the "retaliated" with SOME ROCKETS..."

    Liar. How can you claim you`re not anti-Semitic @piperfawn? And post this garbage? You find this `amusing`?

    Attacks and rockets have been happening NON-STOP for DECADES! They are NOT `in response` like this video claims.

    Apartheid: De-Bunked: NON-Israeli people don`t get Israeli citizen rights! Same as EVERY OTHER NATION on Earth (EU too! sort of)

    Killing Children? Syria has had MORE Muslims die than ALL the Arab-Israeli conflicts COMBINED! Twice as many, actually.

    Hamas DELIBERATLY TARGETS civilians, this is a fact. Israel does not, this is also a fact.

    I can`t put links because they`ll get rejected as submissions if I do.

    But in 38 SECONDS this video manages to tell a WHOLE BUNCH of lies without one shred of truth. Amazing!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 1:23 pm
    So... how is this "The IDF Explaining Itself" when it`s a propaganda video from a group called "Apartheid Adventures"?

    YouTube Page

    Their Website

    They are YET ANOTHER 100% pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, pro-terrorism and anti-Semitic group whose ONLY purpose is spreading Hamas propaganda...

    The 3rd? 4th one to appear on IAB in recent days, not all from @piperfawn of course...
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    AGit Male 30-39
    996 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 1:29 pm
    While some of the information may be true, and most certainly is, the title is of little use to make a valid claim.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 1:43 pm
    @AGit: Oh yes! One true thing was in the opening 0:38 - that youth being beaten.
    He was a relative of the boy who was killed (burned) by Israeli civilians.

    Now: We`re not too sure why he was being beaten, he claims he did nothing. (as they ALL DO! Everywhere in the WHOLE world! People being beaten by police say they did absolutely nothing!! Sadly, sometimes it`s true.) Investigations are underway, afaik.

    The thing is:
    The people accused of killing that Pali- boy were arrested and are facing murder charges. (afaik)
    The men who kidnapped and killed the 3 Israeli boys are HEROES to Hamas and the Pali- peoples!

    Sure, not all of them, some see their crime for what it is. But most of them.

    So THAT bit was truthful, although the whole story hasn`t come out yet...
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    DavidXJ Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 2:02 pm
    Anything that uses the "mockery" format loses any credibility to me. At least some of the other videos feigned an attempt to put forth facts as facts.
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
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    July 24, 2014 at 2:11 pm
    @5Cats, just curious, how would you solve the middle east problem? I`ve heard a lot from you in counter to other opinions, but don`t have much insight into what you think a solution might be.
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    bdowner60 Male 40-49
    593 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 3:46 pm
    Propaganda sarcasm by the radical liberals!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 24, 2014 at 3:56 pm
    @PazerLenis: It`s not perfect, and I don`t pretend to "have all the answers" but it seems to me this would be the best for everyone involved:

    Gaza - Remains part of Palestine
    West Bank - annexed by Israel. If Russia can do it? Why not them? It becomes fully Israeli territory. Same for ALL of Jerusalem.
    Jordan - opens it`s borders to ALL Palestinian refugees. Empty the camps, period. It is their DE FACTO homeland after all.
    The Arab League: Punishes any terror-sponsoring nation for any and all acts by it`s members.

    History: Until 1967? Jordan Occupied the West Bank. It gave Pali-s there citizenship if they wanted to move to Jordan. Many did. BUT in the 70`s the PLO went on a terrorism spree in Jordan and that was revoked.

    Would everyone be happy? HECK NO! lolz! That won`t happen until Israel is destroyed, eh?

    But it would be a starting place for peaceful co-existence.

    And YOUR plan @PazerLenis??
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    prichards114 Male 30-39
    117 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 3:57 pm
    Perfect, Israel is a terrorist state. drat their zionist policy.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 4:38 pm
    5Cats

    The most recent news I`ve seen is:

    Israeli bombs hit U.N. school in Gaza

    It was the fourth U.N. facility bombed in the last two weeks.

    That strikes me as indefensible.

    Is it even PLAUSIBLE that since, I assume, you have never been to Israel and all of your "information" comes from one side, that it may be wrong?

    Imagine if someone was raised in Iran being told the holocaust never happened. Imagine how SURE that person would be.

    All I know, is that if I was a peaceful palestinian and my mother and sister were killed by a bomb in a targeted strike on a peaceful U.N. school I would sign up with Hamas the following day to kill as many jews as I could for the rest of my life. Where do you think terrorists come from?
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    den3jlb Male 18-29
    364 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 5:09 pm
    "The most recent news I`ve seen is:

    Israeli bombs hit U.N. school in Gaza

    It was the fourth U.N. facility bombed in the last two weeks.

    That strikes me as indefensible."

    A true case of selective media reading.

    You seem to have erased from the truth the fact that there were rockets hidden in the schools, and the schools were used as command centres/firing centres.

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6190 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 6:07 pm
    den3jib

    "You seem to have erased from the truth the fact that there were rockets hidden in the schools, and the schools were used as command centres/firing centres."

    A. As far as I know that hasn`t been proven in this case.

    B. Let me give you a scenario. There is a large faction of Al Qaeda in your city. The U.S. begins a bombing campaign that results in thousands of civilian deaths. Your family flees their neighborhood to go to a local elementary school used as a shelter. The americans bomb the school because they believe Al Qaeda may have hidden rockets there. Your wife and child die.

    Do you feel the americans were justified?
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    July 24, 2014 at 6:09 pm
    Still not enough dead muslims! Go Muslins!!And take your children with you.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 6:19 pm
    @holygod: Did you know that Hamas Leadership hasbeen giving Television Interviews from hospital offices? I mean the terrorist arm, not the government.
    Did you now there`s video documentation of heavy weapons fire coming from INSIDE hospitals?

    That a second UN School has found rockets and weapons `stashed` inside?

    AND HOW MANY HAMAS ROCKETS have hit Israel`s schools, hospitals and civilians ON PURPOSE? How many terror attacks have DELIBERATELY targeted civilians?

    Don`t you think growing up in a nation that`s been REPEATEDLY INVADED by enemies who have sworn to kill you makes Israel`s want to fight too?

    Or are they NOT allowed to DEFEND themselves and their families? Honest question.

    Gaza is Palestinian - ALL of it! No Jews, no IDF, only Hamas.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 6:38 pm
    "hasn`t been proven" so now the UN is repeatedly fabricating evidence for Israel?

    And it`s NOT like this is new! The PLO has done the EXACT same thing for DECADES now! The evidence from past violations is indisputable.

    Who are you going to believe? The side prove truthful dozens of times? Or the side proven to have lied dozens of times?

    UN, video, even Hamas itself SHOWING these things!

    You explain it ALL away @holygod? Based on... ??
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 6:39 pm
    5Cats

    "AND HOW MANY HAMAS ROCKETS have hit Israel`s schools, hospitals and civilians ON PURPOSE? How many terror attacks have DELIBERATELY targeted civilians?"

    By that rationale, because Al Qaeda flew planes into civilian building intentionally killing civilians, America would be justified flying planes into Afghani buildings intentionally killing civilians?

    The death tolls are WAY outta whack right now.

    Just put yourself in the shoes of a 20 year old Palestinian. You`ve been raised with propaganda about the evil jew your whole life. Now you see this happening which way is it going to push you?

    Again, WHERE do you think terrorists come from? They come from actions like this.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6190 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 6:42 pm
    5Cats

    "You explain it ALL away @holygod? Based on... ??"

    I`m not explaining anything away. My point is that targeting civilian buildings with innocent civilian populations is indefensible whether weapons are being stored there or not.

    You don`t give a s.hit because these are muslims, or brown people, or poor people, or just too far away. However I`m pretty damn sure that if America bombed a canadian school and killed 16 innocent canadians because they thought a terrorist group was storing weapons there you wouldn`t be ok with it. You just wouldn`t.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 6:43 pm
    Both sides are crap. You guys think you have any idea about the reality of the situation over there?
    Everything you know is propaganda fed half-truths. Both sides.

    You guys who keep submitting this garbage to IAB should be ashamed. This place should be about entertainment, science, arts, comedy, silliness, with a SMALL touch of politics and debate.

    And don`t blame the mods for approving it. Almost all submissions are approved for two simple reasons.
    IAB needs content...and
    Denying submissions opens a can of worms. They run the risk of being labeled. They are volunteers. They are not being paid to play the "bad guy".

    No one is ever proven right or wrong here.
    No one ever wins an argument here.

    You guys are making IAB a place for the vocal minority. (when I say minority, I refer to the fact that most people don`t come to IAB for these issues)

    Cmon guys, we are better than this negativity.



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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 24, 2014 at 7:57 pm
    What a steaming pile of horse$#!+ Nazi propaganda.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6190 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 8:09 pm
    OldOllie

    "What a steaming pile of horse$#!+ Nazi propaganda."

    So nice for you to add you usual insightful commentary. Do you just copy and paste that direct quote onto every thread on this issue?

    Yes. Everyone who thinks what Israel is doing is wrong is a nazi.

    I think bombing shelters is morally unjustified I`M SUCH A NAZI.
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
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    July 24, 2014 at 8:21 pm
    @5Cats, "And YOUR plan @PazerLenis??"

    First off, thanks for the reply. :-)

    I don`t think there will be any solution to this problem until both sides grow tired of the killing and sue for peace. Since this kind of fighting has been going on there for millennia, I just don`t see that happening. If we go with a pro-Israeli solution there will be more of what`s happening now; bombings and rockets and tanks. Eventually some extremist will find a way to do some real damage and set off a nuke. If we go with a solution more to the Palestinians liking, it will never be enough and they will demand more and more. Until Israel is gone, or weak enough for someone to topple them.

    The only solution I see as viable would be to change the equation. Get a leader in Israel who understands the importance of the Palestinian`s self determination, and get a leader in Palestine who respects Israel`s right to exist. Essentially replace the current extremists in power
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 8:36 pm
    I have one solution to part of the problem.

    Recognize the same city is important to all three western religions and make Jerusalem a stand alone place that is not part of any country, like Vatican City. Then there would be no more fighting over Jerusalem.

    The leadership would be a council of religious leaders of Christian, Mulsim, and Jewish faith and anyone could reside there no matter their citizenship, but they would pay taxes and be under rule of their home country.

    That way instead of one child having a toy that the other two can borrow, the toy just belongs to the family and nobody has to fight over whose it is.

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    DerryNH Male 50-59
    140 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 8:57 pm
    This is nothing more than an appeal to emotion, these are lies with absolutely no back-up, because they are lies.

    The worst of it is that this anti-intellectual drivel will actually be believed by the weak-minded among us.

    This takes the Gaza/Israel discussion to a new level of stupid.
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    DerryNH Male 50-59
    140 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 9:04 pm
    Most of the comments here from both sides of the issue, no doubt formulated and written in a matter of a few minutes, represent a higher level of thought than the gibberish puked out by the narrator in this video.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    @PazerLenis: You asked politely, I tend to reply "in kind" eh?

    Yes, new leadership will probably be required, but where will these leaders come from?

    Gaza already has self-autonomy. It`s not enough...

    @holygod: Not bad! But Islam will never surrender their hold on the "2nd Most Sacred City" on the planet. :-( Nor Jews their #1 City!

    And, to be honest, both Jews and Muslims wouldn`t much like Christians "mucking up the waters" in Jerusalem either. The 50-50 "standoff" is fairly stable, but adding a "3rd party" might unbalance the whole thing!

    Right now it`s an UGLY but stable situation there.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 24, 2014 at 9:13 pm
    5Cats

    When nobody is happy is when you know you have a good compromise.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 9:23 pm
    Most of the comments here from both sides of the issue, no doubt formulated and written in a matter of a few minutes, represent a higher level of thought than the gibberish puked out by the narrator in this video.

    @DerryNH: THIS! :-)

    5Cats - When nobody is happy is when you know you have a good compromise.

    @holygod: Hummm, that too! But making everyone angrier, is that the plan? :-/ (kidding! I`m not arguing that, eh?)
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 24, 2014 at 9:28 pm
    Everyone who thinks what Israel is doing is wrong is a nazi.
    No, my comment was based on the FACT that the Palestinians were actually allies of the Nazis in WWII. Some historians believe the the Mufti of Jerusalem might have been the one to suggest the Final Solution to Hitler.

    Nothing about the Palestinians` desire to exterminate the Jews has changed since then. A MAJORITY of them voted for Hamas who have it written in their charter that their ultimate goal is to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. Hence, they`re still Nazis, and their propaganda is, therefore, Nazi propaganda.

    This is not complicated.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6190 posts
    July 24, 2014 at 10:04 pm
    OldOllie

    "No, my comment was based on the FACT that the Palestinians were actually allies of the Nazis in WWII."

    Well, so were the Italians and the Japanese. I doubt you routinely call them nazis.

    Here`s the thing, if you were a 20 year old Palestinian who has lived through a life full of Israelis bombing you and you know multiple people that have been killed wouldn`t YOU be against the Israelis too and probably for their eradication?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 24, 2014 at 10:35 pm
    @HG Well, so were the Italians and the Japanese. I doubt you routinely call them nazis.
    There`s a HUGE difference, though. The Italians and the Japanese surrendered and sued for peace. They accepted the terms offered by the Allied powers, and ceased hostilities.

    Even though they have suffered multiple military defeats, the Palestinians have NEVER surrendered, nor have they sued for peace. Rather than accept defeat honorably, they have resorted to terrorism, murder, and ceaseless hostilities.

    Please don`t be an ass and claim that you are incapable of making this distinction. I know you`re not that stupid.

    Regarding your example of a 20-year-old Palestinian who is tired of being bombed, I`d like to think I would be smart enough to realize that my parents and grandparents have been deliberately provoking those attacks for decades. If you`re constantly being stung by bees, maybe you should stop throwing rocks at the beehive.
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    July 24, 2014 at 11:38 pm
    ....the more you know!
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 12:56 am
    I think most people can stomache videos that are biased and present one side`s view. In fact, I`d say most posters enjoy being able to point out any ommisions. However, this video is nothing more than vile propaganda that aims to dehumanise Israelis as animals and subhumans.

    The poster of this video is a pathetic, cowardly creature that hides his jew hatred behind sympathy for Palistinians. He should stick to posting on /pol/.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2014 at 1:08 am
    Yesterday the israeli army shelled a UN school that was being used by civilians as a refuge from the air attacks.
    15 killed.
    Over 200 seriously injured.
    More children dead.
    A UN school.
    Without doubt this is a source of great joy and happiness to 5cats and OldOilly; they will justify this as collateral damage.
    I would however like to remind them both that Israel has been a member of the UN since 11/05/1949 and has a duty to help and protect other members of the UN, not blow the shi t out of them and the people they are protecting.
    I find both of their attitudes distressing and disturbing.
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2014 at 1:49 am
    What Nickel2 said, nothing to add to that.
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 1:51 am
    If anyone would like to see a perfect example of a strawman argument, look no further than Nickle2. He invents a version of oldollie and 5cats that take joy in the deaths of civilians and then argues against the opinions he feels these inventions would have. Bravo, a brilliant piece of work!
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    pitibull Male 18-29
    26 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 2:27 am
    @HolyGod: The main difference is that if Israel is INVESTIGATING the case - because 1. It`s not 100% positive to be an Israeli bomb (rather than a Hamas one) and 2. If it was Israeli - it`s 100% a mistake and the people responsible will be judged. It`s already allover the Israeli news, talked about, analyzed and the concerns are raised. It`s war, mistakes happen. Especially when Israel is bombarded by missiled launched FROM kidden gardens, houspitals and shelters - so it`s not like they just woke up one morning and decided to bomb a shelter.

    You know what happens when Hamas bombs an Israeli kidden garden/shelter/houspital? They CELEBTRATE.

    Get your facts straight, this is the difference.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 3:57 am
    @pitibul The main difference is that if Israel is INVESTIGATING the case

    And do you know what happens when an Israeli is found guilty of murder? They get like a month in jail or never see the inside of a cell.

    HG`s point is valid - WHY would a Palestinian hate Israel? Remember there are Christian Palestinians who hate Israel too so it can`t be religious doctrine (alone). The obvious answer is the horror joe-shmo Palestinians are put through every couple of years and the continuos subjugation. If they don`t resist, Israel continues it`s slow march of claiming their lands (see settlements), if they resist Israel drops bombs en masse. So that`s why there`s new hatred generation after generation. Israel is the bully who takes your lunch money or beats you up.
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    den3jlb Male 18-29
    364 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 6:41 am
    @turdburglar
    Fair point mate. Can`t disagree with anything you say in your post. Sometimes it just needs pointing out.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2014 at 6:57 am
    And do you know what happens when an Israeli is found guilty of murder? They get like a month in jail or never see the inside of a cell.

    @paperduck: Linkless, as usual for you. You spout propaganda and `urban myths` as if they were true.

    #1 - Hamas will 100% make heroes of those who deliberately murder civilians. YOUR attempt to change the topic does not alter OR justify that.
    #2 - Sometimes cops "get away with it" in every nation. Sad, but it happens. BUT at least the Israelis DO TRY to punish those they catch and convict, unlike Hamas...

    @som-tam: Yes! And Yes! :-)
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    pitibull Male 18-29
    26 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 7:05 am
    @paperduck
    When an Israeli is found guilty in war-crimes/murder they pay the price. If the punishment isn`t harsh enough in your eyes, maybe you heard only one side of the story and didn`t really attend the trial. The fact is that Israeli soldiers and officers are judged and punished when needed, that`s a WHOLE lot more than Hamas activists (who are celebrated for every murder/warcrime they commmit). I didn`t see you comment on that part.
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    pitibull Male 18-29
    26 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 7:09 am
    About Palestinians hating Israel because Israel bombs them - At last I see you trying to make a logical point - you`re not just talking about hatred, you ask WHY. Thank you for that. BUT... don`t stop there. You ask why they hate Israel, and say because Israel bombs them - ask again - Why is Israel bombing them? To take their land isn`t a valid answer. Israel gave lands for peace with Eygept (still stands), with Jordan (still stands) and CLEARD the Gaza strip of any Israelis. Saying Israel is taking land from others is denying Israel`s right to exist. Israel isn`t expanding its borders, it`s building within it`s capitol Jerusalem.
    So again we ask, why is Israel fighting? the answer is and always will be: to protect itself. This has been true at 48, 67 and so on. And why they attack Israel? That`s a whole other post if you`re intrested :)
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 7:45 am
    Wow this video is pure propaganda and in several instances factually incorrect. Not a single nation on earth would let hundreds of rockets a day be shot into their country and not do anything. Every single time a ceasefire has been called the Israelis have attempted to end the bloodshed. It is Hamas that continues the war in every instance. They purposefully place their soldiers and rocket platforms wherever the civilians gather. Israel goes far far out of its way to protect innocents in Gaza, I don`t know of any other nation in any other war that calls targeted locations so that they can evacuate before a missile hits. If Israel wanted to just kill and maim civilians in the Gaza strip they could blow through that land faster than poo through a goose. Hamas doesn`t want peace, it doesn`t care that you wag your finger at them. It wants Israel`s land, it wants the jews dead, and it wants control over Jerusalem.
  44. Profile photo of paperduck
    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm
    @5cats stop pretending I am making this up, I will call you out every time. Only very stupid people believe your rhetoric lines anymore, it`s not the 70s and 80s, we have the internet. It`s a matter of time.

    Israel using Human shields: http://youtu.be/XRQcTPIaETE

    Light sentence for Jews:Link


    And here

    More facts for you
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm
    And the killers of the 3 Jews have not been made into heroes, Hamas nor any other Palestinians even claimed responsibility. But an Arab boy was kidnapped and burned alive, the Jews claimed responsibility for that.
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    pitibull Male 18-29
    26 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 4:58 pm
    Paperduck you`re eigther muslim (hence the hatred) or very dumb, eigther way, trying to convince you is futile.

    You bring up made-up claims and back it up with ""facts"" (which are posts on the internet, you consider them facts).

    It says on the video Israel is using children as human shields, and then you see soldiers with children. The writing could also be: "Israeli soldiers give palestinian kids a ride" or "Israeli soldiers arresting palestinians for throwing rocks", but you`ll just believe the video with the "human shield" headline (even tho Hamas is using palestinians as human shields ALL THE TIME).

    And the killers for the 3 jewish youthes are known for a long time. They are currently shelterd somewhere by other arabs, held as heroes. The palestinian child death is being investigated and ISRAEL ITSELF arrested suspects which will face trials and punishments.
    Please stop posting pooty lies, it`s tirin
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 5:19 pm
    @paperduck: And people (Jews) have been ARRESTED and face trial for their crime.

    8 months sentence for a MINOR is a HEAVY sentence! And other steps, like addressing the issue in schools, that is in your article too.

    You have any links to Gaza judges sentencing Palestinians AT ALL for crimes against Jews? NONE? Well there`s a shocker...

    HINT: Washingtonsblog is NOT a valid media source, It is NOT the Washington POST (for example) This is an ANTI-SEMITIC OPINION BLOG. Not news! They link OTHER anti-Semitic places as their "proofs" or put things hugely OUT of context.

    Judas Priest! You linked a Palestinian propaganda site as your "proof"? I cannot believe my eyes.

    I laugh at you!!

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    paperduck Male 18-29
    1745 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 6:01 pm
    @pitibul The main difference is that if Israel is INVESTIGATING the case

    And do you know what happens when an Israeli is found guilty of murder? They get like a month in jail or never see the inside of a cell.

    HG`s point is valid - WHY would a Palestinian hate Israel? Remember there are Christian Palestinians who hate Israel too so it can`t be religious doctrine (alone). The obvious answer is the horror joe-shmo Palestinians are put through every couple of years and the continuos subjugation. If they don`t resist, Israel continues it`s slow march of claiming their lands (see settlements), if they resist Israel drops bombs en masse. So that`s why there`s new hatred generation after generation. Israel is the bully who takes your lunch money or beats you up.
  49. Profile photo of paperduck
    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2014 at 6:14 pm
    So in order to criticize Israel one has to be either Muslim or stupid? The arrogance in your statement is disgusting. If a child is being led at gun point ahead of soldiers in an operation, that is using a child as a human shield. Just acknowledge that. Saying "Hamas does that more or worse!" is a fallacious argument. It doesn`t change the fact Israel did it. So stop using this tactic.

    I`m not playing this game with you clowns, the formula is the same - discredit, deflect criticism away from anything against Israel and use every argument, obscure, or pro-Israel link if it is against Palestinians. This much is obvious to me.

    I have put forth very equitable solutions and these were met with vitriol and the call to just basically keep killing thousands of Palestinians every year because it`s their own damn fault. That seems to be a good status quo to keep for you guys I suppose.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2014 at 6:20 pm
    @paperduck: There are millions of (fill in the blank) who HATE (fill in the blank).

    Your credibility is lost, just give up already.

    Here`s A Happy Song For Us All To Enjoy!
    (Tom Lehrer - National Brotherhood Week)

    "equitable solutions"? WTF are you talking about? Your links to anti-Semitic Opinion BLOGS?

    Your delusions of things that NO ONE HAS SAID on this thread or any other?

    Are you confusing this with some other thread? Solutions? Is that your FINAL answer?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    When Israelis murder Palestinian children, they are arrested, tried, convicted, and sent to prison.

    When Palestinians murder Israeli children, they name streets and schools after them.
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    ak2nc1 Female 18-29
    860 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 11:09 pm
    F U C K Israel. --->F U C K<--- Israel.
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    ak2nc1 Female 18-29
    860 posts
    July 25, 2014 at 11:10 pm
    Israelis are committing horrible human rights violations. So wrong.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 26, 2014 at 9:33 am
    @ak2nc1: You aren`t helping your side, just a little "fyi" for you...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    July 24, 2015 at 2:40 pm
    In the past year:
    At least one of the "school bombings" was proven BY THE UN to have been caused by a stray Hamas rocket...

    The UN found weapons in at least 2 UN Schools during the conflict, and returned them to Hamas... they "kept quiet" about it until it was over.

    Hamas (and The PLO before them) have attacked Jordan and Egypt hundreds of times too, did Israel "cause that" too? They`ve attacked other nations as well; Lebanon, Syria (before the war there) spring to mind...

    And there`s many cases of Jewish Extremists getting jailed for a decade or longer for their crimes against Pali-civilians.

    There`s even more cases of "martyrs" being rewarded and made heroes by Hamas, Hezbollah and others for deliberately murdering civilians. It`s common knowledge! Not jail, rewards. Posthumously, often :p

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