How Much A Living Wage Would Cost You At Walmart

Submitted by: holygod 3 years ago in

Well done. Informitive. Watch with an open mind. Debate Below.
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Male 9,762
dubtac

"I make it seem you make more money but during tax season I rape you"

1. So you think she will be out more money this way? What, they raise her pay 56% but tax her 36%? Are you that dumb?

2. You obviously don`t know much about taxes. She`d make $20,445. With deductions and credits, like earned income tax credit with a child, not only is she NOT going to owe any taxes, she is probably going to get money back from the government.
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Male 15,832
Two questions:

1. In what bizarre twisted 5-dimensional topology are these two @$$holes on opposite ends of the spectrum?



2. What part of National SOCIALIST are you too f***tarded to understand?
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Male 29
What a great scam to increase the minimum wage move the largest under taxed bracket up to a higher bracket it is a bait in switch. I make it seem you make more money but during tax season I rape you and line my pockets for pet projects for contractors.

It is another social experiment VIA the Government like abortion, this is about perception vs reality and the house holds the prism.

Perception is that she will make more money if the greedy walmart will pay her more.

Reality is raising the cashiers wage to whatever still puts her in a higher tax bracket so she has to pay more in taxes negating her increase in mandated salary.

Federal Government perception is that they don`t take bribes from theses powerful corporations and banks.

Federal Governments reality is that they are powerless to do everything but anything about taxing corporations. Have to remember they are career long politicians so that extra corporate money helps. So that transl
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Male 8,538
HolyGod-[quote]So in your mind walmart can already get rid of jobs and chooses not to out of the goodness of their heart?[/quote]
No, but increasing the cost of labor makes the automation that was `slightly` more expensive than paying people for they work they accomplish now `less` expesnive than paying people for the work they accomplish.

Or haven`t you noticed the increased number of self-checkout lines in Wal-mart?

You want all employees to get a living wage? Easy. Eliminate from the workforce all those not performing enough work to warrent it (you know, that single mother working part time while her kid is in school), and spread the work-load around to those still there.
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Male 2,357
@drworm

[quote]Ole...Nazis were right wing.... not left.[/quote]
I have yet to understand this line of thinking. I would contend that Nazism, that is, the National-Socialist German Worker`s Party (<--- Seriously) has as much in common with modern liberalism as it does modern conservatism.
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Male 662
Ole...Nazis were right wing.... not left.
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Male 15,262
@Ogen how many taxpayer dollars could we save by committing genocide against the poor? Could we concentrate that taxation reduction among the larger land- and business-owners? I should run for the Tea Party!

I`m kidding, but Americans are addicted to handouts and tax breaks. That`s a factor in keeping the country down.
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Male 15,832
Sleepyhallow, seeing that you have replied to one of my posts is the virtual equivalent of stepping in dog$#!+.
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Male 550
Why aren`t the super wealthy considered hoarders?
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Male 550
I used to work at Wal-Mart and they literally told us to enroll in food stamp benefits to compensate for our wages.
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Male 1,983
"Leftist" and "Nazi"?
Really showing how stupid you are, tonight, Ollie.
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Male 441
@Draculya: Hey! Better idea, let`s just round up all the people on food stamps and kill them.

I mean, I don`t want to take credit for your idea, I`m just building on it.
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Male 15,262
If walmart paid a "living wage` to everyone in the value chain, then Americans could not afford to dine on Walmart Mac and Cheese.
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Male 15,262
They should just reduce the food stamp income limit.
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Male 15,832
[quote]The supreme court seems to think that this makes minimum wage constitutional [/quote]
The Supreme Court once ruled that slavery was constitutional. (Dred Scott v. Sandford) What`s your point?

If you appoint a bunch of leftist Nazi f***tards to the court, you going to get a bunch of leftist Nazi f***tard rulings.
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Male 679
"Hey, CreamK, tell me again how great it is in Greece. Oh, that`s right, they`re rioting in the streets."

Yeah, and I`m sure it`s because CreamK`s views are identical to every other person in Greece. Because let`s face it, everyone from a given country has the same economic philosophy: America is living proof of that.

How shallow. Simply because someone is from Greece means they can`t have any good ideas about economics? Hey CreamK, did you know it`s your fault the Greek economy is suffering? Because it couldn`t possibly have to do with the wealthy elite making themselves rich at the expense of the rest of Greece (just like everywhere else this is happening).
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Female 1,571
I was expecting that mac and cheese to go upto like, $1.78.. was surprised!
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Male 819
@OldOllie: For someone who talks so much about the constitution, you understand very little about it. The consitution is not a finality in and of itself. Your point is about as intelligent as saying: "The constitution does not specifically say that murder is a crime and therefore it is unconstituional to make it one."

Also please reread Article 1 Section 8. The supreme court seems to think that this makes minimum wage constitutional (US v Darby Lumber Co). Of course, you know better than they do...
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Male 502
Hey, CreamK, tell me again how great it is in Greece. Oh, that`s right, they`re rioting in the streets.
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Male 9,762
Andrew155

1. "but they won`t do this much by raising prices. This would make them not competitive."

How do you figure? Target and everyone else would have to raise their prices just as much.


2. "Wage expenses are a likely candidate, especially as automation becomes more viable."

So in your mind walmart can already get rid of jobs and chooses not to out of the goodness of their heart? Bulls.hit.

If there is a single employee that walmart doesn`t feel is necessary they`d be gone whether they are making $15/hr or $7/hr.
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Male 9,762
Guys be nice to Andrew.

He is VERY proud that he has taken econ 101.
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Male 1,692
I`ll believe Andrew155`s graphs if I lived in a totalitarian monopolist company`s town.
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Male 1,421
It is just simple, government should not be required to pay subsidies to companies that can easily afford to pay fair wage. Not minimum, not living, a fair sum of money for services the employees give them. Not to drive wages so low as they possibly can. That is not fair and companies should pay penalty for every dollar government has to insert in to it to keep people effing fed.. How can anyone but heartless monster think otherwise? I`m left wing brained and it really hurts to see you people in power, how much damage you are doing proving Ayn Rand wrong?
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Male 1,421
Man oh man... Again the same topic and the same people running with same graphs. It`s like you are actually employed by the koch bros.. Woudn`t surprise me at all. The propaganda against higher minimum wages continues. It is simple, right wing brain will NOT understand compassion and thus, can not understand how social mobility works.

It is a selfish brain that will shoot you in the face on zombie apocalypse. Left wing brain will exhaust his supplies trying to feed every body. Right wing is capitalist, profit driven, doesn`t like government, idolizes strong, masculine, self centered, thugs. Left brain likes intellect, compassionate and pacifist characters. Right wing brain will success when other don`t and that is his goal. Left wing tries to keep everyone level..

At this moment, there is only center right and right wing parties in USA, huge corporate structure that plans to strip down every regulation. Keep arguing until TPP kicks in, you dimwits. Then the fight is
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Male 15,832
So, if Walmart spends an additional $4.8 billion, it would save the taxpayers $300 million (less than $1 per person in the US) and increase our food costs by an additional 1.6%, which works out to about $125 per year per family.

Never mind the FACT that the government has no legitimate constitutional authority to dictate the terms of private contracts.

I can`t believe that we let f***tards like this run loose in Walmart, let alone drive and vote.
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Male 941
This is an interesting video. Something it doesn`t mention is that if all these employees are suddenly making a livable wage, they have that much more money to spend, a large portion of which is going to go back into the economy--Walmart and other business, increasing sales everywhere. More people with more money to spend is always a good thing.
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Male 2,578

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Male 2,578
7. It`s also weird in that it implies Walmart will pay for this just by making prices higher. Yes, they will reduce costs (or raise revenue), but they won`t do this much by raising prices. This would make them not competitive. Walmart`s entire thing is low low prices, and they`re already not so competitive there.

So to pay for it, they are more likely to decrease expenses. Wage expenses are a likely candidate, especially as automation becomes more viable. You really won`t have to let many go to compensate for the expense - and the remainder will have to work little harder.
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Male 2,578
You guys - you`re purposefully not listening to the argument.

1. Walmart, of course, can afford this. Big corporations will be the main ones that can afford to pay its employees this.

2. This public policy will not have the intended affect. Just because you put a wage control here doesn`t mean Walmart will continue to have every single employee they currently have, they will lose some. The old people up front will only be the first gone.

3. Living wage literally means that someone with 4 children gets paid more than 3. That`s pretty socially unjust.

4. You can`t force CEOs to take the price of the minimum wage out of their "money bags". It doesn`t work like that. Go take an Accounting class FFS.

5. The primary cause of low wages is an excess supply of unskilled labor.

6. Mandating a 15 dollar wage would not mean every single person will make that. You can pretend the labor market doesn`t exist, but it inherently does.
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Male 7,774
Makes you wonder why the maths wizards that run the treasury can`t fathom this out unless it`s to line somebody`s pocket.
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Male 7,926
I think the problem is there is no common sense in most businesses. Don`t pay your employees poo wages. The owner doesn`t have to make 100 times what the average employee takes in. The world would be a much better place if people weren`t so greedy.
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Female 355
I`m really on the fence about a national raise on minimum wage, we had one a handful of year ago, it was awesome for a few months but it wasn`t long before prices started to creep up exponentially, combine that with the fact that manufacturers are making their products smaller and you`re pretty much back where you started.

Where this particular video fails for me is it only takes into account if the wages were raised for cashiers and no one else, there are a lot more associates at wal-mart who aren`t making a living wage of $13.63/hr. Stock personnel, maintenance and janitorial, 3rd party personnel like those from hallmark, pepsi and coke.

It`s also not taking into account fuel companies, manufacturers, warehouses,etc all paying their employees more. An expense that if not directly passed to the consumer is passed onto corporations to pass down to the consumer. $.68 noodles are now 1.68 and instead of 12oz they`re 10.
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Male 7,926
@Keyh This is why Corporations aren`t American. A patriot looks after their fellow citizen, pays taxes, tries to not be an asshold. Corporations aren`t people they don`t give a poo about anything or anyone. Corporations are run by people to make money. Period.

Any charity they give "in most circumstances" is because there`s a reward for giving to a charity. I wonder how many of them would actually give to a charity if there wasn`t an incentive to do so.
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Male 7,926
I assume this is why they pay the CEO`s exorboriant amounts of bonues. Instead of sharing the revenue with all the employees they reward it to the guys at the top/Waltons. I assume this is why they do it because that`s what we do. I know it`s two different industries but we all try to avoid paying taxes.
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Male 7,926
I have a company of 4 people. We do IT consulting. I`d imagine this is how walmart does some things. At the end of any fiscal year we do our financials to prep for our taxes. Since we are considered "consulting" we are taxed at `60%. We pay no taxes any year even though we generate `5 million a year in revenue. It`s a funny way to make it by sending out "bonuses". I`m not an non-nice individual so I pay out my guys whatever is in the positive at the end of the year. Each of the guys get a portion of the excess and I get to write off as work expenses. What I imagine the CEO`s of any company doing is they to avoid paying taxes is they pay out bonuses...where I pay my employess they pay themselves. I could have taken an extra 1.5m bonus for myself but Instead I choose to reward my employees and at the same time save on taxes. I`d much rather pay my personal tax rate (which still ends up being nothing using the many tax advantages at my disposal.
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Male 226
Yes, raising everything in the store (not just Mac and Cheese) 1 cent per dollar ($1 per $100) will save the US tax payers ~$2.50 each a year. So much savings.

But, that`s only taking into account raising the wage of people under the food stamp level. That doesn`t account for the fact that you`ll then have to raise the wages of the people above them to maintain a difference between the pay of a cashier and manager.
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Male 833
should change the title to
`How much a living wage would cost you at Walmart if Walmart was going to be greedy dicks about the whole thing and jack up prices and make the rest of the country suffer just to keep their dratin profit margins and their high pay for the CEO and other execs at the level theyre at now`
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Male 2,579
Or we could drop CEO pay down to like... oh let`s say the "F*@K you" level (where most people reside)... and hike the minimum wage with that.
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Male 4,745
I have an even better idea. Don`t raise the cost of a box of macaroni by 1 penny. Instead, don`t pass the extra cost along to your customers, you greedy rotten asshats.
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Male 458
Makes sense. Unfortunately math is a hard concept for those against a minimum wage hike.
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Male 9,762
Link: How Much A Living Wage Would Cost You At Walmart [Rate Link] - Well done. Informitive. Watch with an open mind. Debate Below.
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