The best in arts & entertainment, news, pop culture, and your mom since 2002.

[Total: 18    Average: 3.4/5]
41 Comments - View/Add
Hits: 3748
Rating: 3.4
Category:
Date: 04/06/14 05:20 AM

41 Responses to How Much A Living Wage Would Cost You At Walmart

  1. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6722 posts
    April 5, 2014 at 7:01 pm
    Link: How Much A Living Wage Would Cost You At Walmart - Well done. Informitive. Watch with an open mind. Debate Below.
  2. Profile photo of mesovortex
    mesovortex Male 30-39
    458 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 5:26 am
    Makes sense. Unfortunately math is a hard concept for those against a minimum wage hike.
  3. Profile photo of patchouly
    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 5:47 am
    I have an even better idea. Don`t raise the cost of a box of macaroni by 1 penny. Instead, don`t pass the extra cost along to your customers, you greedy rotten asshats.
  4. Profile photo of Agent00Smith
    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2581 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 5:52 am
    Or we could drop CEO pay down to like... oh let`s say the "[email protected] you" level (where most people reside)... and hike the minimum wage with that.
  5. Profile photo of ultimakewl
    ultimakewl Male 18-29
    833 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:08 am
    should change the title to
    `How much a living wage would cost you at Walmart if Walmart was going to be greedy dicks about the whole thing and jack up prices and make the rest of the country suffer just to keep their dratin profit margins and their high pay for the CEO and other execs at the level theyre at now`
  6. Profile photo of Keyh
    Keyh Male 18-29
    226 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:17 am
    Yes, raising everything in the store (not just Mac and Cheese) 1 cent per dollar ($1 per $100) will save the US tax payers ~$2.50 each a year. So much savings.

    But, that`s only taking into account raising the wage of people under the food stamp level. That doesn`t account for the fact that you`ll then have to raise the wages of the people above them to maintain a difference between the pay of a cashier and manager.
  7. Profile photo of normalfreak2
    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    3875 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:35 am
    I have a company of 4 people. We do IT consulting. I`d imagine this is how walmart does some things. At the end of any fiscal year we do our financials to prep for our taxes. Since we are considered "consulting" we are taxed at `60%. We pay no taxes any year even though we generate `5 million a year in revenue. It`s a funny way to make it by sending out "bonuses". I`m not an non-nice individual so I pay out my guys whatever is in the positive at the end of the year. Each of the guys get a portion of the excess and I get to write off as work expenses. What I imagine the CEO`s of any company doing is they to avoid paying taxes is they pay out bonuses...where I pay my employess they pay themselves. I could have taken an extra 1.5m bonus for myself but Instead I choose to reward my employees and at the same time save on taxes. I`d much rather pay my personal tax rate (which still ends up being nothing using the many tax advantages at my disposal.
  8. Profile photo of normalfreak2
    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    3875 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:37 am
    I assume this is why they pay the CEO`s exorboriant amounts of bonues. Instead of sharing the revenue with all the employees they reward it to the guys at the top/Waltons. I assume this is why they do it because that`s what we do. I know it`s two different industries but we all try to avoid paying taxes.
  9. Profile photo of normalfreak2
    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    3875 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:41 am
    @Keyh This is why Corporations aren`t American. A patriot looks after their fellow citizen, pays taxes, tries to not be an asshold. Corporations aren`t people they don`t give a poo about anything or anyone. Corporations are run by people to make money. Period.

    Any charity they give "in most circumstances" is because there`s a reward for giving to a charity. I wonder how many of them would actually give to a charity if there wasn`t an incentive to do so.
  10. Profile photo of PinkHomicide
    PinkHomicide Female 18-29
    355 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:46 am
    I`m really on the fence about a national raise on minimum wage, we had one a handful of year ago, it was awesome for a few months but it wasn`t long before prices started to creep up exponentially, combine that with the fact that manufacturers are making their products smaller and you`re pretty much back where you started.

    Where this particular video fails for me is it only takes into account if the wages were raised for cashiers and no one else, there are a lot more associates at wal-mart who aren`t making a living wage of $13.63/hr. Stock personnel, maintenance and janitorial, 3rd party personnel like those from hallmark, pepsi and coke.

    It`s also not taking into account fuel companies, manufacturers, warehouses,etc all paying their employees more. An expense that if not directly passed to the consumer is passed onto corporations to pass down to the consumer. $.68 noodles are now 1.68 and instead of 12oz they`re 10.
  11. Profile photo of normalfreak2
    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    3875 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 8:13 am
    I think the problem is there is no common sense in most businesses. Don`t pay your employees poo wages. The owner doesn`t have to make 100 times what the average employee takes in. The world would be a much better place if people weren`t so greedy.
  12. Profile photo of drawman61
    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7738 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 8:25 am
    Makes you wonder why the maths wizards that run the treasury can`t fathom this out unless it`s to line somebody`s pocket.
  13. Profile photo of Andrew155
    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 9:50 am
    You guys - you`re purposefully not listening to the argument.

    1. Walmart, of course, can afford this. Big corporations will be the main ones that can afford to pay its employees this.

    2. This public policy will not have the intended affect. Just because you put a wage control here doesn`t mean Walmart will continue to have every single employee they currently have, they will lose some. The old people up front will only be the first gone.

    3. Living wage literally means that someone with 4 children gets paid more than 3. That`s pretty socially unjust.

    4. You can`t force CEOs to take the price of the minimum wage out of their "money bags". It doesn`t work like that. Go take an Accounting class FFS.

    5. The primary cause of low wages is an excess supply of unskilled labor.

    6. Mandating a 15 dollar wage would not mean every single person will make that. You can pretend the labor market doesn`t exist, but it inherently does.
  14. Profile photo of Andrew155
    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 9:54 am
    7. It`s also weird in that it implies Walmart will pay for this just by making prices higher. Yes, they will reduce costs (or raise revenue), but they won`t do this much by raising prices. This would make them not competitive. Walmart`s entire thing is low low prices, and they`re already not so competitive there.

    So to pay for it, they are more likely to decrease expenses. Wage expenses are a likely candidate, especially as automation becomes more viable. You really won`t have to let many go to compensate for the expense - and the remainder will have to work little harder.
  15. Profile photo of Andrew155
    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 9:55 am

  16. Profile photo of Umbobo
    Umbobo Male 40-49
    64 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 10:41 am
    This is an interesting video. Something it doesn`t mention is that if all these employees are suddenly making a livable wage, they have that much more money to spend, a large portion of which is going to go back into the economy--Walmart and other business, increasing sales everywhere. More people with more money to spend is always a good thing.
  17. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 12:34 pm
    So, if Walmart spends an additional $4.8 billion, it would save the taxpayers $300 million (less than $1 per person in the US) and increase our food costs by an additional 1.6%, which works out to about $125 per year per family.

    Never mind the FACT that the government has no legitimate constitutional authority to dictate the terms of private contracts.

    I can`t believe that we let f***tards like this run loose in Walmart, let alone drive and vote.
  18. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 2:32 pm
    Man oh man... Again the same topic and the same people running with same graphs. It`s like you are actually employed by the koch bros.. Woudn`t surprise me at all. The propaganda against higher minimum wages continues. It is simple, right wing brain will NOT understand compassion and thus, can not understand how social mobility works.

    It is a selfish brain that will shoot you in the face on zombie apocalypse. Left wing brain will exhaust his supplies trying to feed every body. Right wing is capitalist, profit driven, doesn`t like government, idolizes strong, masculine, self centered, thugs. Left brain likes intellect, compassionate and pacifist characters. Right wing brain will success when other don`t and that is his goal. Left wing tries to keep everyone level..

    At this moment, there is only center right and right wing parties in USA, huge corporate structure that plans to strip down every regulation. Keep arguing until TPP kicks in, you dimwits. Then the fight is
  19. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
    1423 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 2:36 pm
    It is just simple, government should not be required to pay subsidies to companies that can easily afford to pay fair wage. Not minimum, not living, a fair sum of money for services the employees give them. Not to drive wages so low as they possibly can. That is not fair and companies should pay penalty for every dollar government has to insert in to it to keep people effing fed.. How can anyone but heartless monster think otherwise? I`m left wing brained and it really hurts to see you people in power, how much damage you are doing proving Ayn Rand wrong?
  20. Profile photo of llaa
    llaa Male 30-39
    1664 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 3:22 pm
    I`ll believe Andrew155`s graphs if I lived in a totalitarian monopolist company`s town.
  21. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6722 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm
    Guys be nice to Andrew.

    He is VERY proud that he has taken econ 101.
  22. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6722 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 4:18 pm
    Andrew155

    1. "but they won`t do this much by raising prices. This would make them not competitive."

    How do you figure? Target and everyone else would have to raise their prices just as much.


    2. "Wage expenses are a likely candidate, especially as automation becomes more viable."

    So in your mind walmart can already get rid of jobs and chooses not to out of the goodness of their heart? Bulls.hit.

    If there is a single employee that walmart doesn`t feel is necessary they`d be gone whether they are making $15/hr or $7/hr.
  23. Profile photo of Shelworth
    Shelworth Male 50-59
    385 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 4:44 pm
    Hey, CreamK, tell me again how great it is in Greece. Oh, that`s right, they`re rioting in the streets.
  24. Profile photo of xavroche
    xavroche Male 30-39
    819 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 5:01 pm
    @OldOllie: For someone who talks so much about the constitution, you understand very little about it. The consitution is not a finality in and of itself. Your point is about as intelligent as saying: "The constitution does not specifically say that murder is a crime and therefore it is unconstituional to make it one."

    Also please reread Article 1 Section 8. The supreme court seems to think that this makes minimum wage constitutional (US v Darby Lumber Co). Of course, you know better than they do...
  25. Profile photo of Naz14
    Naz14 Female 18-29
    1516 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 5:33 pm
    I was expecting that mac and cheese to go upto like, $1.78.. was surprised!
  26. Profile photo of piratefish
    piratefish Male 40-49
    675 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 6:16 pm
    "Hey, CreamK, tell me again how great it is in Greece. Oh, that`s right, they`re rioting in the streets."

    Yeah, and I`m sure it`s because CreamK`s views are identical to every other person in Greece. Because let`s face it, everyone from a given country has the same economic philosophy: America is living proof of that.

    How shallow. Simply because someone is from Greece means they can`t have any good ideas about economics? Hey CreamK, did you know it`s your fault the Greek economy is suffering? Because it couldn`t possibly have to do with the wealthy elite making themselves rich at the expense of the rest of Greece (just like everywhere else this is happening).
  27. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 7:51 pm
    The supreme court seems to think that this makes minimum wage constitutional
    The Supreme Court once ruled that slavery was constitutional. (Dred Scott v. Sandford) What`s your point?

    If you appoint a bunch of leftist Nazi f***tards to the court, you going to get a bunch of leftist Nazi f***tard rulings.
  28. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14620 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 9:05 pm
    They should just reduce the food stamp income limit.
  29. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14620 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 9:05 pm
    If walmart paid a "living wage` to everyone in the value chain, then Americans could not afford to dine on Walmart Mac and Cheese.
  30. Profile photo of Ogen
    Ogen Male 18-29
    441 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 10:15 pm
    @Draculya: Hey! Better idea, let`s just round up all the people on food stamps and kill them.

    I mean, I don`t want to take credit for your idea, I`m just building on it.
  31. Profile photo of Sleepyhallow
    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
    1983 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 10:56 pm
    "Leftist" and "Nazi"?
    Really showing how stupid you are, tonight, Ollie.
  32. Profile photo of iamatree
    iamatree Male 18-29
    551 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 11:18 pm
    I used to work at Wal-Mart and they literally told us to enroll in food stamp benefits to compensate for our wages.
  33. Profile photo of iamatree
    iamatree Male 18-29
    551 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 11:21 pm
    Why aren`t the super wealthy considered hoarders?
  34. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 6, 2014 at 11:59 pm
    Sleepyhallow, seeing that you have replied to one of my posts is the virtual equivalent of stepping in dog$#!+.
  35. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14620 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 1:27 am
    @Ogen how many taxpayer dollars could we save by committing genocide against the poor? Could we concentrate that taxation reduction among the larger land- and business-owners? I should run for the Tea Party!

    I`m kidding, but Americans are addicted to handouts and tax breaks. That`s a factor in keeping the country down.
  36. Profile photo of drworm2002
    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 5:08 am
    Ole...Nazis were right wing.... not left.
  37. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 6:29 am
    @drworm

    Ole...Nazis were right wing.... not left.
    I have yet to understand this line of thinking. I would contend that Nazism, that is, the National-Socialist German Worker`s Party (<--- Seriously) has as much in common with modern liberalism as it does modern conservatism.
  38. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6158 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 12:22 pm
    HolyGod-So in your mind walmart can already get rid of jobs and chooses not to out of the goodness of their heart?
    No, but increasing the cost of labor makes the automation that was `slightly` more expensive than paying people for they work they accomplish now `less` expesnive than paying people for the work they accomplish.

    Or haven`t you noticed the increased number of self-checkout lines in Wal-mart?

    You want all employees to get a living wage? Easy. Eliminate from the workforce all those not performing enough work to warrent it (you know, that single mother working part time while her kid is in school), and spread the work-load around to those still there.
  39. Profile photo of dubtac
    dubtac Male 18-29
    29 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 8:21 pm
    What a great scam to increase the minimum wage move the largest under taxed bracket up to a higher bracket it is a bait in switch. I make it seem you make more money but during tax season I rape you and line my pockets for pet projects for contractors.

    It is another social experiment VIA the Government like abortion, this is about perception vs reality and the house holds the prism.

    Perception is that she will make more money if the greedy walmart will pay her more.

    Reality is raising the cashiers wage to whatever still puts her in a higher tax bracket so she has to pay more in taxes negating her increase in mandated salary.

    Federal Government perception is that they don`t take bribes from theses powerful corporations and banks.

    Federal Governments reality is that they are powerless to do everything but anything about taxing corporations. Have to remember they are career long politicians so that extra corporate money helps. So that transl
  40. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 7, 2014 at 11:31 pm
    Two questions:

    1. In what bizarre twisted 5-dimensional topology are these two @$$holes on opposite ends of the spectrum?



    2. What part of National SOCIALIST are you too f***tarded to understand?
  41. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6722 posts
    April 8, 2014 at 9:23 am
    dubtac

    "I make it seem you make more money but during tax season I rape you"

    1. So you think she will be out more money this way? What, they raise her pay 56% but tax her 36%? Are you that dumb?

    2. You obviously don`t know much about taxes. She`d make $20,445. With deductions and credits, like earned income tax credit with a child, not only is she NOT going to owe any taxes, she is probably going to get money back from the government.

Leave a Reply