Your Anti-Virus Software Is The Virus

Submitted by: llaa 3 years ago in
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Why You Should Not Use Anti-Virus Software At All
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Male 1,692
No, look up how McAfee earned his millions with the Michelangelo virus. This has been prevalent among the virus scanning industry since the industry`s inception.
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Male 5,094
Much foilhattery.
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Male 1,421
.. and vaccinating your kids will just let the New World Order to implant microchips so better not vaccinate at all.
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Male 2,850
@jendrian

"There have been at least 2 that were spread through flash, which is one of the reasons apple claims drove them to stop including it in Safari"

"And one that spread through Java, which is why apple now doesn`t include java`s JRE either."

All of them were spread via electricity. When is Apple planning to switch off the electricity in their machines?

Their approach is like scrapping your car to stop you from getting into a car crash. Sure, it`s effective...but now you can`t drive.
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Male 15,259
No porn? F--- that idea.
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Male 12,365
But on top of that I have an always-on antivirus (Avast! Free at the moment, though I really don`t like the privacy section of their EULA) and I run full AV scans quite often. As well as a firewall, of course.
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Male 12,365
Then there`s what llaa suggests, although you can vary bits of it.

I use Firefox with NoScript, which is essentially a firewall for scripts. Similar functionality to adblock plus in most ways. Try it and go to some webpages. You`ll probably be surprised how many other sites that page wants to have run scripts on your computer. If you don`t have some form of script blocking on, every one of them is free to run any scripts and enable other sites to run scripts too. On some pages, you can have 20 or more sites running scripts on your computer. What are they doing? You won`t know. They`re probably just gathering data on you and sending you adverts. Probably.

I also use Better Privacy, which deletes Flash cookies ("supercookies") when I close the browser except for ones I`ve whitelisted (for things like saved games).

I`ve set FF to accept normal cookies (to maintain functionality) but delete them all every time I close the browser.

Easy
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Male 12,365

2) Unhide file extensions. I`ve no idea why MS hides them in Windows. Stupid idea. People get emailed something that says it`s a document, so they click on it to open it. With hidden file extensions, there`s no way to see that it`s actually an executable disguised as a document. And so you`ve installed a virus.
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Male 12,365
Better security behaviour is a little more advanced:

1) Look at what you`re actually clicking on. Your browser should show it when you move the cursor onto something. What the link says is just text someone entered - it`s not what it actually points to. If they differ, be suspicious. Also check it to see what something on a page does. A common example is streaming video sites with lots of pirated stuff on, which are much worse than porn sites for malware. You click on some piece of video and a video player appears with a big play symbol in the middle. Plays the video, right? Wrong. It installs some malware, usually spyware of some kind for advertising use. It`s a disguised link, as you can see if you look at where your browser shows the target of links your cursor is on.
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Male 12,365
[quote]While he is right to a degree, you are far better off having at least some basic form of antivirus software on your machine, ESPECIALLY if you have kids. Your average computer user doesn`t use a whole lot of forward thinking when surfing the web, usually its *click* *click* *click* "OH CRAP!!".[/quote]

That`s the guts of it. Many viruses still require user interaction because it still works. I know people who will click on the first button that appears, every time, without even reading what`s on the screen.

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Male 7,774
AVG free. Not had a problem in years.
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Male 1,692
Looks like you found it. :) Danke!

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Male 5,620
I hate Bing with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns.
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Male 2,729
@llaa
"Argh, damn fingers and their typos!!"

I can`t find a typo anywhere and it is driving me crazy!
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Male 1,692
You can safely surf for porn or anything.

First Step: Disable java in your browser.
Second Step: Install ad-block plus on your browser.
Third Step: Make sure your browser is in private mode.
Fourth Step: Make sure you erase super-cookies when you close your browser.

All are very easy steps to follow.

Theoretically, you could skip all the steps if you buy a skin mag at your local store.
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Male 3,645
Yes, @jendrian, and I affirmed it.

What`s the problem?
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Male 620
The best anti-virus software is you. The very best antivirus software is not defaulting to an admin account. Don`t give users root access and you`ll avoid nearly all issues. Even better antivirus software is virtual machines for questionable software.
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Male 2,516
@DuckBoy87 that is exactly what I wrote first
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Male 4,745
Meh.
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Male 3,645
@jendrian, at least you recognize that Macs can get viruses.

But why should virus creators infect inferior software when barely anyone uses it? The goal of virus creators is to infect as many people as possible, and that would be Windows.
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Male 2,376
i just reformat my computer every 6 moths or so. I remember the days of a 2 year old operating systems. i try to teach the still stubborn people my ways but always get the same answer."but ma filez, ma filez they go?".
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Male 2,516
the very fact that I can describe how "major" these FOUR viruses are is a testament to how much safer you are in this operating system ... for the time being
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Male 5,872
I`ve had ZA on my machines since I first went online, many years ago, after my ISP sent me a message saying that my net-box was spreading 1/2 million viruses a day, and they would shut me down if I did not take steps and measures. Learned how to use it, never had any problems since.
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Male 2,516
@Dragonace, I recall them all, since I`ve been a mac user for at least that long. One of them was a trojan that you would get if you download the iWork suite from a specific torrent site, and then you install it in a very specific manner. Needless to say the casualties were in the tens.

There have been at least 2 that were spread through flash, which is one of the reasons apple claims drove them to stop including it in Safari. All they did was get a bunch of pop-ups and all you had to do was close your browser and update flash (with another browser) to fix it. I think one of them would hijack your camera too.

And one that spread through Java, which is why apple now doesn`t include java`s JRE either. Not really sure what this one did.

Not really what I would call "major", and just like in linux, all software requires your express permission to operate.
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Male 39,882

If I can`t go to porn sites why bother with the internet at all?
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Male 296
@jendrian - There have been at least 3-4 MAJOR Mac Only virus outbreaks in the past few years. Macs are no more protected than Windows machines these days.
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Male 296
While he is right to a degree, you are far better off having at least some basic form of antivirus software on your machine, ESPECIALLY if you have kids. Your average computer user doesn`t use a whole lot of forward thinking when surfing the web, usually its *click* *click* *click* "OH CRAP!!".

If you have kids its 10000000x worse, I work in the IT field and I lost count of how many machines I`ve worked on that got infected because their kids surf the web and click accept to anything that asks to install.

But honestly who the hell is going to surf the web without hitting a porn site at least once during a 24 hour period? I mean really "Stay off porn sites" he must be out of his mind. :P
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Male 2,516
good thing I just don`t use windows; I dread the day when mac becomes so popular that they become regular targets for malware, hopefully that day will be so far down the line that ubuntu will be as easy to use as OS X.
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Male 1,692
Argh, damn fingers and their typos!!
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Male 1,692
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