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  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 7:54 am
    Link: Workers Find Out What ObamaCare Means For Them - Higher rates, higher deductables, higher co-pay. Just ordinary Americans trying to get by.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:28 am
    Instead of the inevitable fight this will develop into today, let`s all just have a big hug-a-thon.
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    beerock Male 18-29
    19 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:34 am
    :\ I ponder if those who benefit from the ACA will realize how many people will suffer. Utilitarianism failed the day that the ACA passed.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:47 am
    Bullpoo, bullpoo and bullpoo. And, oh, yeah, bullpoo.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:49 am
    beerock, don`t fall for the bullpoo. It`s easy to find anecdotal evidence of some asshat here or there who claims some bullpoo loss of benefits. Those are ALL inevitably in some bullpoo Republican state that has, a) refused to increase Medicaid, b) refused to set up an exchange, and, c) is falling for all of the bullpoo that bullpoo Republicans are spewing while NOT OFFERING poo to address the HUGE healthcare problems we have in this country. Either offer a fix or shut the drat up.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:52 am
    How about try to educate yourselves instead of falling for the constant stream of lies and manipulations that are being put out by a party that has opposed this, unanimously, from the start.

    Notice those numbers, 5Cats? Notice how many are actually signing up and getting insurance? And instead of equating even the slightest "change in benefits" with "loss of benefits", spreading lies and misconception, while you`re simultaneously enjoying a GREAT universal healthcare system, why don`t you give a drat about your fellow man and try to encourage a fix?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 8:59 am
    Those who benefit could give two poos.

    Give `em their phone, and their healthcare. What are they gonna get next, cars?

    Oh God. No.
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    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
    550 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:22 am
    LOL.
    Haters are gona hate.
    I don`t even dare to tell you how much i have to pay for health care here in Luxemburg.

    Well, just for fun: health care and "dependance insurance":4.1%
    pension plan 8% of my monthly pay (and it`s a good pay).

    But you wouldn`t want that, our health care system is fully govermental, similar to the one our canadian friend 5CATS benefits from.


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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36860 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Not every company increased that much. My hubby`s company provided insurance went up 8%. Shouldn`t all the insurance providers have the same impact from ObombaCare?

    How much of that is actually due to ObombaCare and how much is just greedy companies using the excuse to grab more money?
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:42 am


    I smell a rat.

    Virtually every one of these stories I`ve seen, upon impartial investigation, is revealed to be a web of misrepresentations.

    One typical technique: A person previously had crappy insurance for $50/month. It covered nothing except catastrophic injury--with a $10,000 deductible. Worse yet, the insurer`s record of actually paying out claims was spotty. Under ACA, this same person gets real insurance that pays for doctor visits, preventive healthcare, provides prescription medicine discounts, and has a low deductible--and now pays $150/month. And the conservative blogosphere is OUTRAGED, OUTRAGED I TELL YOU, that his premiums went up 200%.

    The usual conservative websites--Breitbart, The Blaze, et al.--are going berserk over this story 5Cats has linked to. I`ll be interested to see what happens when an impartial investigator follows up on it.
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
    2284 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:53 am
    900 dollar is a house payment? HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:54 am
    It`s amazing, Squrlz, how true that is. Yet, we continue, day after day, to have obstructionists offering up lies and misinformation instead of solutions. The examples Republicans trotted out at the SOTU address have already been debunked as complete and utter BS. This one anecdotal bit of BS will soon be, too. But don`t worry, 5Cats won`t be deterred. He`ll continue to try to stir the pot while enjoying his excellent universal healthcare coverage.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:13 am
    Yeah, what SmagBoy1 & Squrlz said is right on the money. Fux News has aired many of these anecdotal "horror stories" which were immediately investigated and found to be Grade A Bullsh*t. The people were misled to believe they were getting f*cked and/or not telling the whole story in order to make it look like they were getting f*cked.


    Nice try 5Cats, you remind me of this other Canadian guy I know...

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    MelCervini Female 50-59
    2252 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:16 am
    If its so Frakkin super and great and everyone loves it... why is it forced? why not make it voluntary? yeah... can`t make EVERYONE pay that way.
  15. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:19 am
    @Smagboy1 And the average payment is up 27%? With higher deductibles too? You can play with the numbers of "signed-up" VS "paid-for" VS lost their coverage until the cows come home.
    It costs more, for less coverage, PERIOD!
    And will get much worse when the Employer Mandate hits the fan!

    @Squrlz4: Fake coverage? Not once have I come across that.
    The company is named, it`s a local broadcast, those involved are identified. It would be nearly impossible to "fake" all that.
    And why? For just a local story?

    @Gerry1: THAT is part of the problem! Each state has vastly different rules & rates. Cross-State shopping is STILL forbidden by ObamaCare!
    All the ACA really does is add more rules and another EXPENSIVE layer of bureaucracy to an already complex system.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:27 am
    5Cats, even using the slanted Forbes data you`re quoting, you`ll note that nearly half of the states analyzed show a cost DECREASE! Which ones don`t? Oh, yeah, fully-Republican-run ones who`ve refused to set up their own exchanges, refused to accept increased payment for MediCare, refused to accept federal help for any of this. Self-inflicted wounds don`t speak to the ACA, they speak to drattarded, partisan hackery.

    Wouldn`t it be great if BOTH parties were working toward universal care, LIKE YOU ENJOY, so that all of this mess could be behind us? Well, not "us", because you actually already have universal care.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:27 am
    @Smagboy1: "quasi" coverage?
    Your article counts enrollments in Medicare & such as "insured by the ACA" = fail!

    It also counts people who already had insurance as new sign-ups. Double fail.

    It`s not disputed that 5+ million lost their coverage and had to change policies, but your article doesn`t seem to notice that...

    Your article says "His latest figures show that about 2.1 million people signed up for private insurance through the exchanges."

    2.1 million, @boy1, YOUR link`s number.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:30 am
    5Cats, I know that you haven`t been following this on real news sites, but, increased MediCare is direct part of the ACA. But whatever. As has been demonstrated time and again, these stories of ACA pain are all based on lies and misinformation. As I said below, even the ones the Republicans were peddling at the SOTU address have turned out to be lies.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:31 am
    "Fake coverage? Not once have I come across that."

    They`re called Junk Health Insurance Policies.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:31 am
    "BOTH parties"? WTF are you blathering about?

    It`s 100% Democrat, THEY are responsible for fixing it!
    In fact: why have the Dems rejected EVERY Repub suggestion? Huh?

    You are blaming one party for the policies of the other? How?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:31 am
    "why not make it voluntary? yeah... can`t make EVERYONE pay that way"

    Because rates only stay low if you have enough people in the pool. It`s really too bad that so few people really understand how insurance works. That`s the real reason people are so up in arms. Until now, they have brainlessly signed up for whatever insurance their boss tells them to without really understanding what it covers or how the process works. Now that a light is being shown on how crappy their old insurance was, they are shocked! shocked, I tell you! /sarcasm
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:40 am
    "why have the Dems rejected EVERY Repub suggestion?"

    Other than cross state insurance, what have they suggested? Every time a reporter asks a republican that, they can never answer. The ACA is almost entirely based on a Republican plan (Romneycare, remember that?) so how can they hope to come up with something different?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:45 am
    Oh. We`re playing the anecdotal evidence game?

    My health insurance went down $32/month and my coverage got better.

  24. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:49 am
    BTW. Does anyone, 5cats, AJ, anyone think that if republicans would have supported whatever the denmocrats wanted we wouldn`t just have single payer health insurance by now?

    ACA was a compromise. Look at the plan that was originally set forward compared to what ultimately got passed.

    Nobody is thrilled with it because it wasn`t what anybody wanted, but they wanted SOMETHING.

    Republicans have done everything in their power to block, change, f.uck up, everything about this plan and then they turn around and bitch about how f.ucked up it is.


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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:50 am
    Another anecdote! I checked the MN exchanges and found a lower-priced plan with similar coverage but I decided to stick with the plan I currently have. Period.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 10:54 am
    @WhoDat: Your fail is double-epic!
    #1 March 2012! lololz!
    #2 I meant fake NEWS reports, which is clearly what @Squrlz4 is taking about!

    Holy Poo, you just never give up, eh? No matter how often you`re completely made a fool of. Self be-clowning! You`re the poster-boy for it.

    Even your usual `ad hominid` attacks are weaksauce...
  27. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 11:01 am
    "I meant fake NEWS reports"

    Like when Fox News was interviewing a guy with a business saying he was going to lay people off because of the ACA forcing him to get insurance for his employees but then later we found out that he really had too few employees to need to offer them insurance in the first place? They always interview people who similarly don`t understand how the ACA works and then the next day MSNBC or some other media reporter debunks it by showing us the real story.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 11:03 am
    @HolyGod: No. Not even all the Democrats supported that secret Bill. Many were openly bribed to vote for it. You`ve forgotten all that already?
    Pelosi and Reid have called those who wish to change or delay the ACA "terrorists" and other nasty things. Is that the sort of "working together" you suggest? 100% all-Democrat, all the time?

    You do know that the opposition party is supposed to -oppose- bad policies, right?

    "When you find you are walking down the wrong road, the swiftest course is not to go forward, but to turn back."

    Yes, the ACA has made more things worse than it has improved. Even you must see that. 27% average rise is not anecdotal. Worse coverage is not occasional. 5+ million Cancelled policies are not "you can keep".
    It is "unfixable", ok?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3909 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 11:04 am
    @5Cats - Your stupidity is unbelievably epic if you deny the existence of Junk Healthcare Plans. The example Squrlz used of a junk healthcare plan is the basis of these fake news reports. They make up the majority of plans that were "cancelled" because of Obamacare. The age of the article doesn`t dismiss the fact that those plans exist and have been ripping people off.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 11:05 am
    Judy who is 53 and has a child.

    I assume she is married since they don`t point out she is single.

    According to this her plan is $1,316 a month with a $4,000 deductible.

    Let`s go to healthcare.gov and check.

    Enter in her info....

    Let`s say she doesn`t qualify for ANY discounts, which based on where she works, she probably does.

    Gold plan
    Shared Cost Blue PPO 1200 a

    $761/month for all 3 of them
    $1,200/yr deductible
    $20 copay for doctor visit

    So, guess what?
    F.UCKING BULLS.HIT

    The info is RIGHT THERE people, look it up.

  31. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 11:36 am
    HolyGod shoots... and he SCOOOOORES!

    It`s pretty bad when one of us has to fact-check this story using the Obamacare website because the reporter somehow neglected to.
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 12:29 pm
    Everyone is getting mad at the ACA for raising rates, but its the insurance companies trying to pies off the public because they don`t like the law. They figure that if they make healthcare expensive then people will get mad at the law. The ACA states that insurance companies have to pay back at least 80% of what they take in to pay for the healthcare cost of their policy holders. If they don`t then the insurance company has to give thief customers rebates.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 1:32 pm
    " The ACA states that insurance companies have to pay back at least 80% of what they take in to pay for the healthcare cost of their policy holders. If they don`t then the insurance company has to give thief customers rebates."

    You can thank my Democratic senator Al Franken for that protection!

    "The info is RIGHT THERE people, look it up."

    The only reason Faux News and the like still have an audience is because the people who watch their shows never question anything they say and never look any further because what they say feeds into their suspicions and prejudices.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 1:52 pm
    GROUP HUG
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 2:26 pm
    "ACA was a compromise."

    No it wasn`t. Conservatives were locked out of the closed door framing, which was supposed to be transparent.

    What was put forth was put forth in a surprise vote on Christmas for optimal annoyance. Political trickery passed it.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 3:36 pm
    Yes, it was, AJ. Conservatives were NOT locked out. At all. They chose, before Obama even took office, and this is not only documented, but recorded, to look bipartisan yet to oppose EVERY SINGLE THING he suggested. This isn`t even new news. They`ve obstructed. They`ve undermined. They`ve defunded, fillibustered, opposed and stonewalled more than any Congress IN THE HISTORY OF THE NATION, accomplishing less than any congress. Ever. All because Obama, a Democrat, was elected. And don`t think the public is so stupid as to not see it.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33134 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm
    Conservatives were NOT locked out.
    @Smagboy1: Some Facts:
    >Not 1 Republican was involved in writing the ACA.
    >When asked why? Obama answered We won."
    >The committee which was supposed to oversee it`s writing made 7 suggestions for content. All were ignored.
    >Plenty of Insurance Company people were involved though! At least we think so, it`s a secret as to who wrote what, eh?

    The historical revisionism you regularly cough up is disgusting...
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 4:37 pm
    5cats

    So are you going to ignore my fact checking since it completely obliterates your bulls.hit story?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6267 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 6:37 pm
    HolyGod- ignore my fact checking

    You`re `fact checking` was just to see what a `comparable` plan via healthcare.gov costs.

    The story was about an existing plan (not healtcare.gov) that had to be changed to meet the requirments of ACA.

    Apples/oranges.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
    1601 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 6:41 pm
    thanks obama
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 7:28 pm
    Megrendel

    "The story was about an existing plan (not healtcare.gov) that had to be changed to meet the requirments of ACA."

    The story was about how all their insurance was going up under obamacare. The guy says they found the best plans they could. In reality, their insurance prices go down under obamacare, if they choose properly.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:18 pm
    Why Republicans have no business being upset about Obamacare
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 1, 2014 at 9:31 pm
    Republican ideas included in Obamacare
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 4:19 am
    lauriloo, I`ve tried and tried and tried to show them how Republicans were involved, actively, in not only having a chance to craft the ACA, but have actively undermined it at every turn. They refuse to look at bald proof. Good links, though. Maybe they`ll listen to you? It sure hasn`t worked for me. :-)
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 6:34 am
    No single Republican voted for the ACA. They opposed it at every turn. Many of them had very good ideas for reforming healthcare which would have actually worked to make it cheaper and improve cover but were not even considered.

    It is batpoo crazy to say they have any blame at all. You guys are fruitloops.

    It is especially insane to blame Romney, who was governor of an otherwise blue state. Governors don`t put forward legislation any more than Presidents.

    HolyGod

    You are simply lying through your teeth. You are an arrogant, stupid man if you think that from a distance you can second guess a professional insurance broker who has done hours of research and you have simply accepted the lies of the Democrat Party. Lies from before the ACA was implemented, even they don`t pretend it is cheaper now since in some states men have seen about 100% increase.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 6:40 am
    "They`ve obstructed. They`ve undermined. They`ve defunded, fillibustered, opposed and stonewalled more than any Congress IN THE HISTORY OF THE NATION, accomplishing less than any congress."

    That is because everything Obama has suggested has been utterly insane. The man is an idiot. That is obvious to anyone who doesn`t just accept what his cheerleaders in the corrupt, socialist news media say.

    He smoked pot and snorted coke, by his own admission, yet has cracked down on drug enforcement. He was the original birther, lying on his biographical details for his publisher. He accomplished literally nothing in any job before he became POTUS, did not even publish in a law review he edited. He used a false name and SS number, although we are not sure why because no news organisations or law enforcement will investigate. He has made enough gaffs to make Bush look smooth. He is a dratwit.
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    IPSIBilly Male 18-29
    10 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 9:03 am
    My insurance plan that was cancelled due to obamacare was costing me $435 a month. The new plan is $540 a month and the deductible is $2500 more per year. My old plan was covering all of my wife`s treatments...no partisan crap this is just a fact
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 9:25 am
    Ipsbilly

    "My insurance plan that was cancelled due to obamacare was costing me $435 a month. The new plan is $540 a month and the deductible is $2500 more per year."

    Have you checked the exchanges for a better plan? Is be shocked if $540 is the best price you can get. What state are you in?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 9:51 am
    IPSIBilly, how do you know your insurance plan was "cancelled due to Obamacare"? Because that`s what the company told you? And then they proceeded to charge you more? And you`re blaming Obamacare?
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    IPSIBilly Male 18-29
    10 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 9:55 am
    @Holy just checked healthcare.gov. $498 per month with a 6K deductible. That is the closest one to what I had before. My old deductible was $3500 and I reached it every year.
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    IPSIBilly Male 18-29
    10 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 10:10 am
    @smag actually my insurance company sent me a detailed list of why my plan was no longer acceptable...among the details were things that did not apply to me in any way...if you think me and millions of others that got those letters are making this up you are sadly mistaken.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 10:30 am
    Randomxnp

    "You are simply lying through your teeth. You are an arrogant, stupid man if you think that from a distance you can second guess a professional insurance broker who has done hours of research and you have simply accepted the lies of the Democrat Party"

    Lying about what? Look it up. It is black and white. You don`t need to be an insurance broker. It isn`t hard. Go check yourself. The owner of the company is against Obama and staged this for the news obviously.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 11:41 am
    I would tell my employees, "If you voted for Obama, you`re getting exactly what you deserve. If, on the other hand, you voted for Romney, you`re getting exactly what the idiot Obama voters deserve."

    Also, I would advise anyone not to try to argue with HolyGod. He is immune to facts.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 11:45 am
    @ Randomxnp: "You are simply lying through your teeth."

    That`s highly inflammatory language, Randomxnp, and it`s out of place here. Please take it down a notch (or two or three).
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 12:06 pm
    OldOllie

    "I would advise anyone not to try to argue with HolyGod. He is immune to facts."

    Perhaps you could legitimately dispute what I have said if you feel it is incorrect. Making baseless accusations is a sign of weakness.

    I stated a fact, if you disagree then prove me wrong.
  56. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 1:44 pm
    "No single Republican voted for the ACA. They opposed it at every turn. Many of them had very good ideas for reforming healthcare which would have actually worked to make it cheaper and improve cover but were not even considered."

    Like their idea to treat health coverage like income and collect income tax on it? Oh, and people with pre-existing conditions who let their coverage lapse a day are SOL to get new coverage? Or letting people opt out of healthcare coverage altogether so we can all pay for when they go to the emergency room and bail on the bills? GREAT ideas /sarcasm
  57. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    February 2, 2014 at 8:40 pm
    The owner of the company is against Obama and staged this for the news obviously.
    And you accuse ME of making baseless accusations?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6912 posts
    February 3, 2014 at 3:52 am
    OldOllie

    "And you accuse ME of making baseless accusations?"

    How else do you POSSIBLY explain him telling his staff "This is the best option we could find" when it took me 5 f.ucking minutes to find a gold plan that was HALF AS MUCH?
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    chalket Male 50-59
    2712 posts
    February 3, 2014 at 3:14 pm
    Unless I`m mistaken, this is employer-supplied insurance. According to healthcare.gov, this small-business owner can purchase a PLATINUM plan for himself and his 5 employees for $2,766 a month that would give them all ZERO deductible, $5 office co-pays, $8 prescriptions, and $1500 MAX out of pocket per family ($750 for singles).
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    kree_ Male 30-39
    1062 posts
    February 3, 2014 at 7:24 pm
    I`m saving 10k a year because they can no longer charge me extra for a pre-existing condition.

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