Police & Lies - Unlawful Arrest Of Protester

Submitted by: nic_blink182 3 years ago Weird

This is just f*cked up and weird. Know your rights.
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Male 820
"Know your rights."
This was from Europe, not America, they don`t have rights.
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Male 37,890

@ Listy - "yes" or "no" would do
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Male 186
@cynicalgamer, yes, I`m serious. It`s not the kind of world I would LIKE to live in, but it IS the world we live in NOW.

Unless proven by other evidence anything a cop says is taken to be true. This means that if he says he saw someone who looked like you drive past an hour before, he has a right to ask for a specimen of breath. Thats the law. I would like it to change but what am I as an individual going to do about it? (Other than voting for different politicians from the ones we have now.)
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Male 3,081
(con`t again)

mistaken, but the officer would just say `i honestly belive he`d admitted it at some point`.

the judge may at that point decide that yes the officer had lied about smelling alcohol etc.... and dismiss any offence of drinking and driving. but that isn`t what the guy is being arrested for, it`s failing to provide a breath specimen... which like I said is a totally separate offence here in it`s own right. The judge may reasonably find that even though the initial circumstances were contrived by the police, the guy should then have complied with the lawful request of a breath specimen and then afterwards sought redress for the circumstances leading up that request.
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Male 3,081
(cont.)
same way as yours do. The biggest case we have here of entrapment is in relation to the Rachel Nickell case..basically the police sent an undercover officer in to get friendly to their main suspect.

The courts didn`t throw out the case though... I think at Colin Stagg`s trial the judge only told the jury to disregard any evidence gained from it,at which point the prosecution basically withdrew because they had nothing else, but they still thought (and most of the media here did too) that he`d done it..he was proved innocent a few years later btw..not just found innocent, someone else was proved to have done it.

in this case the police officer would argue that he reasonably suspected alcohol had been consumed and a driving offence had been committed because the guy had admitted to drinking...the video evidence would prove the officer to have been `mistaken` about the admission of drinking, and it would look to a jury that he`d just lied rather than been mi
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Male 3,081
"Is that not Entrapment? I don`t know about over there but here it could be. If you have a good lawyer."

It could be argued as such Gerry, and may have a successful outcome in the courts here in UK. Based on the video evidence I would imagine that the courts may look favourably on it as such, but it isn`t definite and the courts are separate from the crown prosecution service here in the UK who are the ones ultimately who get to choose whether to prosecute or not...at that stage they probably would because they wouldn`t have sight of your possible defences at that stage... they get a file from the police and decide on that only. The police are hardly likely to say `oh by way... I know we say *this* but the other guy has a video that proves it didn`t happen like that.

so the CPS would probably take it to court and like you say there is a chance the judge would dismiss it fairly quickly based on entrapment (although our courts don`t always see entrapment the
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Male 550
Bats and concussions.
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Male 450
"Even seeing someone who sort of might have looked like you driving by an hour ago is reasonable suspicion. "

Please tell me you are just joking? Do you really want to live in such a world?
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Male 2,711
"Urrup! You can`t get away with treating people like this until after you disarm them. "

Yeah, fecking idiot OldMoldie would just shoot the cops, all of `em, right on the spot, because GUNS!
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Male 653
Shelworth, it`s Great Britain. A Briton is the name of an inhabitant of Britain (and perhaps Britanny as well?).
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Male 440
This is in Great Briton? I`m not sure he has any "rights" at all.
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Male 37,890

Listy - [quote]"probaby what the police where lying for about the smelling drink, admitting to drink, driving etc. all to get him ultimately to not consent to a breath test because they knew that in itself is a crime, regardless of the fact if he was provoked into it."[/quote]
Is that not Entrapment? I don`t know about over there but here it could be. If you have a good lawyer.
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Male 186
I really don`t get why everybody is getting their nickers in a twist here...

Whether the cop is right or wrong in suspecting he has been driving is not an issue. If he has reasonable suspicion you might have been driving he CAN "request" you to submit to a breath test. (Even seeing someone who sort of might have looked like you driving by an hour ago is reasonable suspicion). Refusing the breath test is an offence and punishable by arrest. Followed by a forced breath test or even blood test. They WILL get the results, no matter what.

He`s intentionally being a prick the whole time. The cop reacts and starts acting like a prick as well. The ONLY reasonable course here it to submit to the breath test and file a complaint later using the video as evidence. That is how the system works in the UK.

You DON`T have to be driving a vehicle to be suspected of drink driving and you don`t have to be near a vehicle to be asked to submit to a breath test.
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Male 3,081
Unfortunately they`ve probably got him on the failing to provide a specimen.... because that`s an offence all in itself, and is probaby what the police where lying for about the smelling drink, admitting to drink, driving etc. all to get him ultimately to not consent to a breath test because they knew that in itself is a crime, regardless of the fact if he was provoked into it.

The police do teach each other good methods of provoking people...my stepfather who was both an Northern Ireland police officer and then mainland police over here in the UK told me that. Things like driving at 20mph an hour less than the speed limit on the motorway in unmarked cars to provoke people into tailgating them so they can then be arrested and searched for other offences, tailgating people themselves for miles and miles to make them nervous into making even a slightest mistake against the highway code.

the police are the last people I`d trust in a situation.
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Female 2,691
Wait, what kind of moronic cops accuse a pedestrian of driving under the influence? Where`s the effing vehicle? I`m pretty sure that cops in our benighted states of `murica have to note the vehicle id when writing the ticket or arresting the person.
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Male 1,983
Police are lying sacks or worthless schitt everywhere.

I used to be a cop [many years ago] and my informed, first-hand opinion is that they should all be shot on sight.

How many can truly claim that they have had an interaction with a cop that was a positive life altering experience?
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Male 4,893

Why did they talk so much? They should`ve beaten him silent! The balls on that guy...the nerve of him!

Admit to the crime they tell you to admit to! Cops are better, smarter, and always right.
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Male 844
Continued: It`s no fun for you or the family if you`re dead.
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Male 844
We all have our rights according to the "letter" of the law. Bottom line is that they have a gun and the "legal" right to use it to subdue you if you do not do what they say. Is that right? No, not really. Do you want to try to convince them of what is right or wrong while you stare down the barrel of a 9mm? Sure but it may not be the brightest thing you do. Do you draw down on them with your LEGAL weapon? Only if you want to talk to Jesus. Your rights and the law are subjective at any given moment. Most cops are good, hard working people in what tends to be bad situations and they need to err on the side of caution if they want to get home to their families every day. Arguing with them in the heat of the moment will get you dead. Better to try and record what`s going on or have someone do it for you. Then when cooler heads prevail, sue the JEEBUZ out of them for depriving you of your rights. You can`t sue them if you`re dead and even though your family can, it`s st
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Male 37,890

Cops appear to be pack animals, like hyenas. One starts and all his Brother Officers circle around and help out. Nip Nip Nipping away until you slip up and confess to something you haven`t done.
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Male 15,832
Urrup! You can`t get away with treating people like this until after you disarm them.
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Male 2,578
"u r a sheeple, tedgp"

Yeah, I think people like to feel like big men by getting in a cop`s face. We made a social contract, part of that is having cops to enforce laws. You respect them, and you settle it in court when they abuse.

Besides, are people really still protesting fracking in 2014? It`s like they don`t want any economic and income growth in their own countries, only in Russia and the Middle East. Literally the biggest bright spot in America right now is the fact that it will actually be energy independent soon. This came out of nowhere and soundly destroyed the peak oil enthusiasts. I encourage everyone to do it. Even Norway is exploiting its natural resources beyond belief, and the progressive internet loves Norway.
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Male 3,285
Know your rights? The best way to deal with this is do what the officer says and contest it later. If you resist, then you commit a criminal offence. if you start swearing or being abusive, you commit a public disorder offence.

Simply do what they say and contest it later.
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Female 331
Link: Police & Lies - Unlawful Arrest Of Protester [Rate Link] - This is just f*cked up and weird. Know your rights.
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