HBO Questions Darwin; Response.

Submitted by: patchouly 3 years ago Funny

Seems a little too mad until you realize the degree of crazy we have to deal with.
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Male 1,015
@RytWing : nice trolling :)
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Male 1,015
@RytWing : nice trolling :)
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Male 1,015
@RytWing : nice trolling :)
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Male 12,365
[quote]All I wanted to hear is that science can`t produce DNA evidence of evolution. And yes, I`ve been trolling.[/quote]

And you still are, because you know that there is is an abundance of DNA evidence of evolution.

You lied repeatedly as part of propaganda that threatens the future of humanity.

You deliberately maintained a pretence of ignorance as part of that, ignoring all evidence and repeatedly claiming that you hadn`t seen any evidence.

And now you say you were only doing it to be annoying for your own amusement.

Yet you think other people should change their tactics and be more civil?

Or rather, you claim you do. You`re still trolling, aren`t you?
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Male 1,015
"All I wanted to hear is that science can`t produce DNA evidence of evolution. And yes, I`ve been trolling."
"Change your tactics. Be more civil. "
"I would quote every time you guys insulted my intelligence but you guys know you were doing it so it`s pointless."

I never said there was no proof of evolution in DNA, just that it worked a certain way but not as you seemed to say it should be if evolution was right.

Well... the problem about talking to somebody acting like you did (on purpose) is that you just can`t use logic or facts. Most of the time creationists put their fingers in their ears and yell "laaaaaaaaaalaaaalalalala can`t hear you" at every piece of evidence you produce.
How can you react ? It gives you two choices, you give up or after a short time you get enraged.
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Male 316
Thank you zed. Your the only one here who understands me. All I wanted to hear is that science can`t produce DNA evidence of evolution. And yes, I`ve been trolling.
Take a look back too. Not once did I advocate creation or support religion. You guys all assumed those things about me.
The point is...
Every time there`s a discussion about evolution, the evolutionist degrade and insult differing view points.
You honestly can`t expect to educate someone whom you don`t deem intelligent enough to learn. Change your tactics. Be more civil.
I would quote every time you guys insulted my intelligence but you guys know you were doing it so it`s pointless.

BTW Angilion...10:18 pm and again @ 11:01pm.

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Male 12,365
Bear in mind that these are just two examples that just happened to attract my attention and that I am not an expert in biology or involved in the field in any way. There`s a huge number of examples.
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Male 12,365
Another random example that I came across while reading about vision and which has only recently been confirmed in humans - tetrachromatic vision. That results in more accurate perception of the wavelength of visible light, which is perceived as more accurate colour vision. While that`s not particularly beneficial in modern society, it is beneficial.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Not paying attention doesn`t make the question go away. I`ve asked several times for direction to a scientific paper that shows DNA evidence of a beneficial mutation in DNA.
This question still hasn`t been answered.[/quote]

Firstly, you didn`t ask that question.

Secondly, the question has been answered so many times that anyone who isn`t completely ignorant of the subject knows the answer. What you`re claiming doesn`t exist is in fact commonplace.

I`ll pick an example that I found interesting because it was initially suggested that it might be connected to one of the most important events in the history of my country (the Great Death of 1348/9). Further research showed that it probably wasn`t, but my interest was taken.

Look it up yourself - it`s attracted a lot of attention recently because people with 2 copies of the mutated gene are immune to existing forms of HIV. The gene is CCR5 and the mutation is delta32.

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Male 1,015
DNA what ? "Could site for me the scientific paper that witnessed the DNA of a living thing changing to produce a different living thing?", is that your question ??

Does your question suggest the DNA of a being should change during that being`s lifetime to show evolution is real ? If that`s what you want us to prove well we can`t, because it`s completelu NOT how evolution works.
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Male 316
DNA? Anyone? Anyone?
Not paying attention doesn`t make the question go away. I`ve asked several times for direction to a scientific paper that shows DNA evidence of a beneficial mutation in DNA.
This question still hasn`t been answered.
You choose to ridicule my intelligence instead, changing the topic of discussion. I`m still on task hear. If you guys can`t stay on topic then you should be questioning your own intelligence.
So I ask again. DNA?
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Female 2,415
Oh, and @Rytwing, about my comment on your stupidity and my faith... you obviously did not get the point of that comment, eh? LOL, you proved my point :)
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Female 2,415
Well said Angilion! I couldn`t bear to argue with Rytwing anymore as my brain was starting to hurt, so thanks for doing a great job of taking over.
You just can`t fix willfully ignorant, I guess. :/
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Male 12,365
If by some chance there`s anyone here who does have a question about evolution, there`s a FAQ on this page which links to numerous other FAQs which should give summary answers to any question you might have:

talk.origins summary FAQ
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Male 12,365
[quote]I always find it funny how when people question evolution the evolutionists don`t attempt to answer those questions but rather mock and ridicule those with legitimate questions.[/quote]

As that is such a compelling argument from such an honest and well informed person, I`ll remind people of the one and only question they asked:

[quote]So what your saying is, if Darwin said two plus two is five you would believe him?[/quote]

So I was wrong! You did ask a question about evolution. Your question is so intelligent, so wise and so skillfully constructed to encourage rational analysis of the crux of the issue, I am struck dumb in awe of it and realise that you are right! Everyone must deny reality and all evidence in order to obey your commands! No matter if civilisation collapses and billions of people die! The survivors will be the mindless and obedient ones and all will be well!
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Male 12,365
But hey, feel free to make a radical change in your behaviour and actually ask a question about evolution. You haven`t done so yet.

Not that you`d read the answer anyway, but I`ll spare a few minutes to point you at one of the many online sources of information about evolution and the theory of evolution. Which you`ll ignore and then claim it never happened.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I believe if religion were going to end civilization that it would have happened in the Middle Ages. You know, Spanish Inquisition, crusades, all that stuff.[/quote]

If you had read my post, you would have seen the relevant difference clearly explained. I`ll quote a very simple summary of the most important point:

[quote] Modern civilisation is wholly dependent on technology, which is highly dependent on science. Destroy science and you destroy modern civilisation.[/quote]

Medieval civilisation was not wholly dependent on technology that didn`t exist until centuries afterwards. They didn`t have time travel.

You did, of course, ignore the evidence. That`s what you do. It`s a necessary part of creationism. You make something up and declare it true with total disregard for evidence or reality, which you regard as irrelevant.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Me- show me some DNA evidence.

Angilion- that would destroy civilization.

Who`s crazy now?[/quote]

You are, of course, lying again.

Please carry on. The more you lie so openly and so badly, the more you show creationism for what it is.
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Male 12,365
[quote]So here`s what I`ve surmised from my discussion about evolution on this thread. Should one have a question about evolution they can expect one of three responses.

1. Your a stupid head.
2. Religion is stupid.
3. Silence in reference to the actual question leading the questioner to believe there may not be a real answer these highly intelligent, scientifically minded people can come up with.[/quote]

You know that evolution exists.

You know that there is an abundance of evidence showing that the theory of evolution is correct.

You are just lying about it. Repeatedly. You`re either a troll or a creationist.
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Male 1,015
"Thank you all for the education*. (*lack of)
Good night"

Problem is we can`t educate you, you don`t ask for it. You can`t be convinced and you just want to show us how science is wrong when we all know it`s right.

Your questions are not questions, they are distorted truths or complete nonsense you slap in people`s faces, there is no way a sensible debate can start this way.

And I`m still thinking you`re just trolling :)
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Male 1,243
Wow, he`s annoying.
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Male 316
So here`s what I`ve surmised from my discussion about evolution on this thread. Should one have a question about evolution they can expect one of three responses.

1. Your a stupid head.
2. Religion is stupid.
3. Silence in reference to the actual question leading the questioner to believe there may not be a real answer these highly intelligent, scientifically minded people can come up with.

Thank you all for the education*. (*lack of)
Good night
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Male 316
Me- show me some DNA evidence.

Angilion- that would destroy civilization.

Who`s crazy now?
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Male 316
I believe if religion were going to end civilization that it would have happened in the Middle Ages. You know, Spanish Inquisition, crusades, all that stuff. Yet here we are having a delightful conversation about whatever you think we` re talking about. I thought it was about DNA supporting evolution. Your talking about the end of civilization. Congrats on avoiding my question by going into some convoluted answer about I don`t even know.
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Male 316
So all people of religion are your enemy whether they are mentally ill or not doesn`t matter. Off the the gas chamber with them. They disagree with you so off to non-existent hell with them. Way to show forward thinking and tolerance. You must be German. Those people are famous for that type of crap.
Yes I assume you want to kill people cause let`s face it, what else odd you do with an enemy who is so beneath you that you can hardly stand it. And let`s be honest, you can`t stand it.
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Male 12,365
As for being uncivil, there is a world of difference between speaking bluntly against your enemies and campaigning for an end to science and thus technology, which would kill billions of people and *literally* end civilisation. Modern civilisation is wholly dependent on technology, which is highly dependent on science. Destroy science and you destroy modern civilisation. At best, the small proportion of humanity that survives could sustain itself in some parts of the world from a combination of scavenging from the remains of civilisation and relearning the skils that our ancestors used in the neolithic (a new bronze or iron age would be impossible because there isn`t enough ore that could be mined and smelted with neolithic technology).

This isn`t hyperbole. It`s about the fate of civilisation and the lives of billions.
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Male 12,365
[quote]You talk of others wanting to destroy civilization all the while being wholly uncivil yourself.[/quote]

When people seek to destroy civilisation, it is necessary to defend it. Politely asking them to stop does not work. If they cared, they wouldn`t be doing it.

[quote]Let`s have an adult conversation about evolution.[/quote]

That would have to start with creationists not existing. There is no adult conversation with people who deny the existence of reality in order to gain power.

[quote]Cause that`s what it`s going to take to convince these backwardsass yokels. Amirite?[/quote]

You are wrong.

Firstly, they`re not all "backwardsass yokels". Some of them are mentally ill. Some of them are victims of brainwashing. Some of them know exactly what they`re doing and do it for money and power.

Secondly, there is no evidence that has any effect on people who deny the existence or relevance of evidence because
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Male 12,365
[quote]Can you see wind? No. Can you see magnetism? No.Can you see gravity? No. What you see is their effect on the things around you. The same can be said for the faithful. They see influence in their lives that can only be explained by some other worldly influence. Whether or not it`s actually there is beside the point.[/quote]

That argument is like a virus infecting a cell and using it to make more copies of the virus, or like that parasite that controls the snails it infects and compels them to destruction.

You are pretending that religion is like science so that you can use science as a camoflage for religion, attaching the earned reliability of science to religion and cloaking the worst of religion from rational criticism.

Observing evidence and deducing natural explanations for that evidence is not the same as assuming supernatural explanations and denying the existence of reality if it conflicts with those explanations.
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Male 316
@Angilion

You talk of others wanting to destroy civilization all the while being wholly uncivil yourself. Let`s have an adult conversation about evolution.
It seems you are more interested in insulting creation than you are in defending evolution. Creation isn`t on trial here. Evolution is. Defend it. Maybe a little DNA evidence would seal the deal. Can you produce, in the IAB court of law, any DNA evidence supporting the beneficial mutation of DNA? Cause that`s what it`s going to take to convince these backwardsass yokels. Amirite?
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Male 12,365
I suspect that creationists won`t be able to understand the distinction between fact and theory in my post because they stop thinking when they encounter anything to do with evolution.

I`ll illustrate the point using a different theory, one which isn`t the target of a propaganda and brainwashing program by scum who want to destroy civilisation by destroying science.

The core of the germ theory of disease is the idea that infectious and contagious diseases are caused by germs. As a scientific theory, it`s just over 100 years old.

Creationists - do you believe that infectious and contagious diseases didn`t exist until the late 19th century? If not, you should understand that a scientific theory explains facts and that the facts exist independently of the theory.

Evolution is a fact and would be so even if the theory explaining how it works was wrong despite the overwhelming evidence supporting it.
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Male 316
Let me try and explain faith in a higher power to to the faithless. Can you see wind? No. Can you see magnetism? No.Can you see gravity? No. What you see is their effect on the things around you. The same can be said for the faithful. They see influence in their lives that can only be explained by some other worldly influence. Whether or not it`s actually there is beside the point. You thinking they are crazy or stupid doesn`t matter. They are affected and choose to believe.
Maybe a little scientific research into religion instead of ridicule, derision, and dismissal is in order for you people.
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Male 12,365
Truncated as usual. Will IAB ever use fully functional software?

That link is a theological commentary on some (note - just *some*) of the transitional fossils in just one tiny group of species.

There are a huge number of very clearly transitional fossils for all sorts of species.

Creationism requires lying in order to exist, because it is wholly based on denial of reality. It really is that simple.
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Male 12,365
[quote">If evolution is fact then there should be billions or even trillions of transitional fossils showing one species evolving into another species. They have never found even one.[/quote">

That is, of course, a lie. Maybe you are lying. Maybe you are just determined to remain ignorant (from your age, you can`t be that ignorant by accident) and are repeating a lie thinking it to be true. But it`s a lie.

It`s rare for fossilisation to occur.

It`s rare for fossils that do form to remain intact for millions of years and to be discovered in modern times.

So there shouldn`t be trillions of fossils.

However, there are very many fossils and many of them are transitional. All of them, in a sense, but some are more clearly so.

Here`s a Christian giving a theological commentary on transitional fossils in t
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Male 12,365
[quote]The earths rotation is observable and so are atoms.[/quote]

And so is evolution. Which humans have been using as a tool for at least 15,000 years. Which couldn`t happen if it didn`t exist. Obviously.

[quote]I have no problem with science and in fact love it. I have a problem with science labeling something as a theory and calling it fact.[/quote]

You clearly don`t know what science is, so you can`t love it.

Evolution is a fact.
The theory of evolution is a theory.

Two different things.

The theory of evolution is so strongly supported by such an overwhelming amount of evidence that it far exceeds the day to day definition of "fact", so it`s not unreasonable to refer to it as such in common usage. However, that`s seperate from the main point, which is that evolution is not the theory of evolution and evolution absolutely is a fact.
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Male 316
@carmium

The earths rotation is observable and so are atoms. I have no problem with science and in fact love it. I have a problem with science labeling something as a theory and calling it fact. It`s a scientific conundrum that you can not explain away by calling me names.
As for religion, I have not once defended any religious perspective on this thread. For you to use that as your defence is weak at best, shameful and pitiful. For all you know I`m an atheist.


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Male 316
@Wendypants

Well according to you faith doesn`t make things true.

Dinosaurs died out and birds are their ancestors-science

Wait a minute...Did they die out or did they evolve into something else? So they`re proto-dinosaurs not birds. Right?
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Female 6,381
CONAN: That is nothing but wilful ignorance on your part. EVERY fossil (except, perhaps, the most recent) is a transitional fossil because it sits between two others in the chain of evolution. The allegation that transitional fossils are missing is simply nonsense. In the case of some fossils, such as horses, there is a wonderful set of fossils showing the obvious evolution from one species to another. Yet one can always ask "Well, where`s the fossil between these two?" And when it`s found, ask for the one between it and the one above or below. It`s endless and proves absolutely nothing.
Why don`t you take a biology course instead of repeating one of the most tired and utterly silly arguments creationists have ever come up with?
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Female 6,381
RytWing: So you don`t believe the Earth goes round the Sun because you can`t see it happen? And don`t believe in atoms and compounds because you can`t see them? Intelligent people use deductive reasoning and experimentation to come to conclusions about the intangible. Which makes a helluva lot more sense than taking a confabulated collection of ancient myths as absolute truth with NO evidence whatsoever.
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Male 10
Where are the transitional fossils? Showing one species changing into another species, there are none.
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Male 10
If evolution is fact then there should be billions or even trillions of transitional fossils showing one species evolving into another species. They have never found even one.
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Male 316
I always find it funny how when people question evolution the evolutionists don`t attempt to answer those questions but rather mock and ridicule those with legitimate questions.
i.e. My stupidity.
I`m sorry but a third grade response is not suitable for this level of conversation. Answer my questions about evolution or shut up. Site me a paper where DNA has changed one life form into another using the scientific method. If you can`t do this then you believe in evolution blindly and that is called faith.
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Male 316
@wendypants

Remember the time you said you had faith in my stupidity and I said faith doesn`t make things true and then later you agreed with me. Yeah. Those were the good ol days.
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Female 2,415
@rytwing, Zed68 said it correctly as well! Faith DOESN`T make things true! I`m glad that you`re beginning to understand, rytwing; it`s a start anyway.
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Male 1,015
"@Wendypants
Well according to you faith doesn`t make things true. "

According to reality too.
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Male 316
@Wendypants

Well according to you faith doesn`t make things true.

Dinosaurs died out and birds are their ancestors-science

Wait a minute...Did they die out or did they evolve into something else? So they`re proto-dinosaurs not birds. Right?
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Female 2,415
@Rytwing, you`re missing the point of science; people don`t have to have faith in it because they`re always finding out new information and discovering if they`ve made mistakes. I don`t have `faith` in science as it doesn`t need my faith to exist.

There is one thing I do have faith in though, and that would be your stupidity :)
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Male 1,015
@RytWing : nice trolling :)
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Male 316
Proven huh? Could site for me the scientific paper that witnessed the DNA of a living thing changing to produce a different living thing?
And if it`s proven FACT why are we still calling it a theory?
"Creation is impossible"-science
At first there was nothing and then, in an instant, there was everything and we call it the Big Bang theory. - science
Your faith in a theory is every bit as ridiculous as faith in a deity.
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Female 2,415
@Rytwing, well, one is a made up story told by people who insist an invisible man in the sky told them what to right while the other is a theory based on observation and proven facts. There you go, sorted that one out for you; you`re welcome.
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Male 316
Dead people have written books and past them off as fact. One side writes the origin of species, the other the bible.
What`s the difference?
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Male 7,123
Just needed the creationis idiots, didn`t need a commentary.
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Male 1,397
Denial and Delusion.....in the wrong hands, they can be as powerful as a nuke! This was very funny, though.
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Male 14,774
I never realised that this was a useable debate tactic - just act so dumb and brainwashed that you can`t understand the correct logic.
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Male 14,774
"So what your saying is, if Darwin said two plus two is five you would believe him?"

hahaaaahaaa Thank you. I call atheist false flag; not even creationists are this dumb
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Male 14,774
dfas i cnt type . lsughing too much
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Male 1,983
What CreamK said.
[Damn, people are posting my responses before I can all over the place tonight.]
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Male 37,888

Sheep in a flock complete with shepherd.
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Male 316
So what your saying is, if Darwin said two plus two is five you would believe him?

The hairless apes are at it again.
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Male 1,421
I feel the same rage, over a lot of things like young earthers, guns, pro-lifers, teabaggers, conspiracy nuts, anti-global warming idiots, anti-lgbt, celebrating capitalism as an answer to everything, opposing universal healthcare, anti-union morons, "taxes are theft" and in general, stupidity presented in those people above. What joins them all is the lack of care and love for another humanbeing and utter, unashamed selfishness.. None of those above are concerned about anyone else but them.
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Male 334
it is brilliant though. I really had to laugh. That is not to say i think religion is stupid or not, but this movie was funny as hell
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Female 2,415
I just fast forwarded through his stupid screaming; it was just as annoying as listening to the outrageous stupidity of the religious people.
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Female 4,349
(unless the rage is directed at homsexuals, black people, jews, or anyone slightly different than them)
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Female 4,349
well, I for one completely understand his rage. But I choose to keep mine inside, as I dont think retards really understand or can comprehend rage anymore than they can understand logic...
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Male 2,390
It would have been funnier without the whole `gangsta white boy yelling` crap, but still funny none the less.
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Male 5,564
In essence, I agree but, yes, perhaps at least a bit over the top.
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Male 5,094
Although I agree with the spirit of his message I don`t think screaming falsetto ad hominems will convince anyone of anything.
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Male 4,746
Link: HBO Questions Darwin; Response. [Rate Link] - Seems a little too mad until you realize the degree of crazy we have to deal with.
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