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Date: 02/21/14 09:38 AM

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    caper454 Female 70 & Over
    511 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 9:05 am
    Link: Guns Vs Obamacare - At least Americans still have their priorities straight
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    piratefish Male 40-49
    675 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 9:51 am
    It`s because owning a gun is more useful than being forced to buy Obamacare.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 21, 2014 at 9:54 am
    Except the gun stat would include a pool of the entire adult population of Americans, while Obamacare includes a much smaller pool and will cost everyone who doesn`t want to be poor lots and lots of money.

    I`m one of those people who doesn`t have healthcare. You don`t think I weighed the options? Signing up for Obamacare is the worst option. I would be paying way more than everyone else for a service I wouldn`t need. And best yet, Obamacare will save me if something DOES happen. Yay! It just makes sense.

    If I do happen to develop a pre-existing condition, no problem. Obama`s got that. It kind of defeats the whole concept of what insurance is though. It`s the equivalent to insuring your house for fires while it`s on fire. Or for earthquakes after the earthquake.
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    OverTime Male 40-49
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    February 21, 2014 at 9:54 am
    Because most people already have health insurance, duh!

    I don`t see any programs trying to make sure the poor have easy access to guns.

    What a drating retarded post!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 21, 2014 at 10:16 am

    That reminds me, I need to get a new gun.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    February 21, 2014 at 10:31 am
    Based on the previous comments I have to say that I give up. To me you seem like a nation of egoists stuck in an archaic social system and living in a constant state of fear, fear of terrorism, fear of your government, fear of your neighbors, fear of change.

    Rant over, I`m done, and hopefully I have the strength not to touch another gun/healthcare post again.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 10:31 am
    Because most people already have health insurance, duh!
    Couldn`t have said it better myself. How was this not obvious?
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    February 21, 2014 at 10:40 am
    @Tiredofnicks. where do you live, exactly? do you live in Shangra-La? i would bet not.
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    icdumbpeople Male 30-39
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    February 21, 2014 at 10:59 am
    @Slut_etta, No, we just don`t live in the US where gangsters and assassins clearly break into yoir homes on a daily basis.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 11:13 am
    @icdumbpeople

    No, we just don`t live in the US where gangsters and assassins clearly break into yoir homes on a daily basis.
    I have never been attacked nor has my house been broken into. I believe the "daily" assessment may need some revising.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
    885 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 11:24 am
    It`s obviously got to do with the fact it takes less time to get a gun permit than to sit and try to register on the Obamacare website.

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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14622 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 11:35 am
    And that people, is why you`re f cked.
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    MelCervini Female 50-59
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    February 21, 2014 at 11:54 am
    apples and oranges imho... but i will add that registering your guns should be unconstitutional.
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    HQampersand Male 18-29
    172 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 12:15 pm
    *Insert political segway about illegal immigrants here.*
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    piratefish Male 40-49
    675 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 12:17 pm
    "To me you seem like a nation of egoists stuck in an archaic social system and living in a constant state of fear, fear of terrorism, fear of your government, fear of your neighbors, fear of change."

    Do you even know how Obamacare works? It is NOTHING like the socialized medicine most Europeans and Canadians enjoy. Obamacare forces everyone to sign up for expensive, crappy healthcare, and does absolutely NOTHING to address the skyrocketing costs of US healthcare. In fact, it actually increased the cost. In America, we do not believe in the government having the ability to force anyone to buy anything against their will simply because they are alive. But then again, we`re not perfect like Europeans are (never mind the fact we had to save you from yourselves twice in the last century, you smug bastard). And while I`m at it; you`re damn right I fear my government, they no longer follow our Constitution. And terrorism doesn`t scare me, our anti-terrorist laws do.
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    FredSpudman Male 18-29
    653 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 1:00 pm
    @piratefish "But then again, we`re not perfect like Europeans are (never mind the fact we had to save you from yourselves twice in the last century, you smug bastard)."

    It`s a little unclear who you`re addressing. They might well come from an Axis country.
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    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
    550 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 1:01 pm
    @Tiredofnicks and @icdumbpeople

    I`m trying to keep myself from commenting on gun and healthcare related posts too.
    Definitely that is an american thing which the rest of the world will never understand.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 4:32 pm
    And that people, is why you`re f cked.

    Said the little bitch of China..... Yes that owning guns thing sure screwed this country up since it`s inception from the place that tried to prevent that sort of thing.......
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    Except the gun stat would include a pool of the entire adult population of Americans, while Obamacare includes a much smaller pool and will cost everyone who doesn`t want to be poor lots and lots of money.

    Yep healthcare is good but food for thought in my state MA they offer dental for the leeches on society while people who work aren`t offered the same there`s your Obamanomics. What could go wrong with that......
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 21, 2014 at 4:38 pm
    besides this BS it`s because of Eurotwats we would like to keep our guns have fun with your ideology it`s got a great track record.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm
    Tired of nicks and ilikelogic

    Stop equating "the rest of the world" to a "few select countries in Northwestern Europe". That`s what you guys do all the time, and it`s unbelievably Eurocentric and elitist.

    And also, you`re lack of tolerance is showing. Go whine some more.

    I`m one of those people who doesn`t have healthcare, I`m right here - your oppressed person. You don`t care what I have to say. Go back to that hole from whence you came.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm
    I really don`t think these Eurocentrics understand that poor people in America receive and enormous amount of benefits and free money. Education, healthcare, housing - more of it is free than you guys realize. Have a baby? Government will pay for you to live for 18 years. Ask my aunt. You can also get a free iPhone. Hell, even my first college degree was free, paid for by the government. That`s cheaper than my Dutch gf`s.

    There`s also a clear lack of knowledge about the frackton of social program available. They are everywhere.

    The main difference is that our middle class does NOT receive this. Stop acting like there is no American welfare state. America`s welfare state is far greater than you can imagine. Do some actual research, do some actual travel.

    It`s brilliant, they`ve created an underclass, a dependent one that is incentivized to stay that way.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    February 21, 2014 at 7:17 pm
    And finally, tiredofnicks, you`re from Scandinavia, right?

    Norway has a 1 trillion dollars sovereign wealth fund.

    Why don`t they share it? There are people who need that money, but Norway is just hoarding it. Norwegians are the 1%ers of the world, and are keeping all the wealth for themselves. Any Norwegian who believes in massive redistribution, but thinks the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund should not be shared with more needy countries is, quite frankly, an idiot.

    You would be an idiot to believe in redistribution, but still support hoarding all this wealth for the privileged few.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    February 21, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    MelCervini - EXACTLY right.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    February 21, 2014 at 10:36 pm
    I can see McCheese is riled because he knows he`s arguing against logic and morality. Keep it up man. I suggest using all caps.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    February 21, 2014 at 11:33 pm
    We shouldn`t have to do either.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    February 22, 2014 at 1:52 am
    One thing`s for sure, they`re gonna need BIGGER GUNS!
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
    625 posts
    February 22, 2014 at 2:34 am
    @piratefish: "But then again, we`re not perfect like Europeans are (never mind the fact we had to save you from yourselves twice in the last century, you smug bastard)."

    Ahaha! The old "we have saved your asses twice"-argument. That`s getting old. Very untrue also. The Allied Forces were more than just the USA.

    Let`s hear it for Doug Stanhope
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    Zuriel Male 30-39
    554 posts
    February 22, 2014 at 6:48 am
    registering my guns.. lololol

    I do think this "fact" is because Connecticut forced it`s population to register it`s guns.
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    piratefish Male 40-49
    675 posts
    February 22, 2014 at 6:02 pm
    "Ahaha! The old "we have saved your asses twice"-argument. That`s getting old. Very untrue also. The Allied Forces were more than just the USA."

    Calling it old doesn`t make it any less valid or relevant.

    And it is a pretty much undisputed historical fact that the US involvement in WW2 was the decisive factor in Allied victory. The UK was literally on its knees, and without the US opening a second front for Germany, the Soviets would have been in very serious trouble.

    Ask any historian, especially a military historian, and they will tell you unequivocally that the US was the deciding factor in WW2. Without us, Europe would be German right now; like it or not.
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    ryanwi Male 30-39
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    February 23, 2014 at 3:53 pm
    @piratefish: You are half right. The US was a contributor to the war in Europe. The second front, however, was meaningless for Germany. The Germans were on the rope well before the second front was ever opened. The high water mark of German success was Stalingrad. Once the German 6th Army was surrounded on 23 November 1942 Nazi victory became impossible. D-day didn`t happen until June of 1944.

    The largest contribution the US made to the war in Europe was to supply trucks to the Soviets so they could concentrate on building armor. The Soviets faced 90% of the German military on their own. All the other Allies combined faced the other 10%. Germany never transferred fresh troops from the east to the west. When eastern front units were moved west it was because they were already decimated.

    The biggest difference the western front made was in the post war world where it provided the border for the fall of the iron curtain.

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