C. Brooker Dissects Russia`s Olympic Hypocrisy

Submitted by: FredSpudman 3 years ago in Funny

He makes a good point
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Male 4,099
Secondly, Yes they spent $51 billion on construction but only because they went $39 billion over budget because they underestimated the terrorist threat, sochi turned out to be a real dump beforehand, and because nearly 1/3 of every cent spent goes to fraud or corruption of some kind.

Yes, the reports are that the russian guards and soldiers seem to be very polite and kind. But that is also because they spent months before hand throwing out and banning thousands of people and their family members who might not fit the Russian image they want to present.

Lastly, people are angry with Russia because they have been increasing using their powers to turn neighboring states into puppet regimes again by meddling in their elections and dominating their oil supply. Not to mention their very very long list of human rights abuses.
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Male 4,099
@spanz: "why is everybody so anti rusian. They spent a bunch on the Olympics, they are dealing with terrorist threats, and trying to be good hosts."

Thats all true but not the whole story. Terrorism is a problem because Sochi is only 200 miles from the border of a war zone between Islamist wahabists and Russian forces. Thats closer than the nearest urban center. Sochii was chosen for this particular purpose. Putin is trying to look like he has defeated terrorism just like the American Administration. So Sochi was chosen because it would highlight this fact to the russian people. But it is by no means a safe area, which is why the Russians keep having to get new construction workers because terrorist kept infiltrating the construction crews and they had to erect a "wall of steel". Putin put the olympics and everyone involved at risk, to produce propaganda that he has crushed terrorism.
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Male 4,099
@Angilion: " I`m sure you`re aware that changing your sex enough to be the proverbial duck makes you sterile. We don`t currently have the ability to make a functioning reproductive system."


Actually, there is a multitude of different types of Transexual surgeries and medical procedures, some result in sterilization some don`t. If they get a new "part" the new parts are sterile but the old parts may not be. This is how you end up with people like Thomas Beatie "the pregnant man."

But to address you question more fully. Most of the European laws don`t simply extend to the full surgical operations but to simple identity matters. So if a person wants to change their name, take hormones, crossdress, or simply be recognized as the opposite sex, all are grounds for forced sterilization. Not simply the surgeries.
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Male 653
@spanz Because they are creating an environment which is particularly grim for human rights in the western world.
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Male 653
@Listypoos Having to agree with PopCa, in that people should be proud of things they made happen, not proud of things that they had no hand in.

@emmettyville Tsk tsk. You had to teach your mother that nudists aren`t AUTOMATICALLY paedophiles or strippers...
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Male 4,099
Honestly, I think gay "pride" has done more to hurt the gay movement than anything else. Things like the gay parade in San francisco with people dressed in dominatrix outfits, I think give people the wrong idea of who gays are and really just create a bad stereotype against homosexuals. I think gays deserve equal rights, and I don`t think the government should be involved in marriage, but I think things would be a lot easier for the gay community if they focused less on how they are different and more on how they are just like everyone else. That being said I still think they have every right to portray themselves however they wish.

I personally don`t take pride simply because I breath oxygen and I don`t take pride in personal fetishes. I acquire pride by achieving goals and principles. I can`t comprehend the point of pride if everything little thing, natural or unnatural, intentional or by chance, right or wrong, is prided.
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Male 12,365
Incidentally, I also think it`s an unnecessary label.

Except maybe *during* the sex change process, i.e. when the person is in transit, and for some reason it has some relevance to something.

Come to think of it, it would have some relevance in some aspects of medicine afterwards. So maybe there`s a need for a word, just not a need for it to be used very often and not as a defining feature.
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Male 12,365
Listypoos:

Would you clear something up for me regarding your position on changing sex?

You started off on the subject by saying [quote]btw personally my view is the word transexual is an unnecessary label. If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...it`s a duck to all[/quote]

but you`re outraged by countries using exactly that standard. I`m sure you`re aware that changing your sex enough to be the proverbial duck makes you sterile. We don`t currently have the ability to make a functioning reproductive system.
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Male 12,365
[quote]if as a hetro you`d historically had all your rights removed and been victimised.... when you had the chance to say `hey i`m hetro and proud`... wouldn`t you?[/quote]

No, because I don`t want to replace irrational prejudice with the same irrational prejudice just with the groups swapped around.

Hey, I`m bisexual and I`m not proud. Why should I be? I didn`t do anything to be bisexual. It`s just how I`m wired. It`s not an achievement and it doesn`t make me superior to non-bisexuals, so it`s not a valid reason for pride.

Some people are proud to be gay. Some people are proud to be straight. Some people are proud to be "black". Some people are proud to be "white". Etc.

They`re all wrong to do so.
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Female 4,359
omg, his spew of gay sexual inuendo against Putin was genius. People are so dumb....although, saying that, I once had to try and convince my mother that nudists were not pedophiles or strippers...
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Male 2,711
@PopCap

You seriously ask "why is it that gays can`t just go be gay and shut the Hell up about it?"
You honestly don`t realize that their "carrying on" (as you call it) is in response to certain segments of our society who keep making their sexual orientation an issue? When they stop trying to take control over other people`s bedroom activities, when sexual preference is no longer a "thing" legally, civilly, and socially; then we all can "shut the Hell up about it." Until then, the concept of "Gay Pride" is a push to get society over the idea that gay = shameful. Man up, get over it, and Shut the Hell up about it.
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Male 15,190
That explains everything. Russia has homosexuals confused with priests.
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Male 729
Let`s take Elton John, for example. He`s gay. That`s how he is. Not an accomplishment.

That he is a great singer and an amazing performer. Now, THAT is something to be proud of. The world is better off for his contribution.
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Male 729
"Is pride linked with the option for change?"

If not, then what is the purpose? To feel good without doing something to earn it? Like the benchwarmer who celebrates with team?
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Male 3,147
"For me to be proud of being heterosexual is the same as me being proud that I am white or tall. There is simply no alternative. What of it? Shall I be proud of the sunrise or the phase of the moon, as if my arrogance could alter the reality?"

Is pride linked with the option for change?
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Male 729
"I`m open to influence on most things... convince me why gay people shouldn`t be proud of who they are with something other than `i don`t think they should because I wouldn`t`."

Because, unlike overcoming the challenges of fixing a mechanical system that you did not invent, being gay is not an accomplishment. It is a state of existence, which is or is not, by virtue of fate.

For me to be proud of being heterosexual is the same as me being proud that I am white or tall. There is simply no alternative. What of it? Shall I be proud of the sunrise or the phase of the moon, as if my arrogance could alter the reality?
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Male 3,147
"No. Why would I be proud of that?"

well then I guess people are proud of different things then huh? I know my niece is proud to be gay for those reasons. I know for other reasons I`m pretty damned chuffed with myself today for replacing all my brakes on my car for the first time.

People take pride in different things no? Or are you that blinkered that your own view is the only one that counts?

Look at what you`ve basically said there.. "why would i be proud of overcoming some hardship?"

Forget the fact you personally don`t think it`s a hardship... they may do.. and you don`t think overcoming a personal hardship, percieved or otherwise is anything to be proud of?

I`m open to influence on most things... convince me why gay people shouldn`t be proud of who they are with something other than `i don`t think they should because I wouldn`t`.

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Male 729
"if as a hetro you`d historically had all your rights removed and been victimised.... when you had the chance to say `hey i`m hetro and proud`... wouldn`t you?"

No. Why would I be proud of that?
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Male 1,384
why is everybody so anti rusian. They spent a bunch on the Olympics, they are dealing with terrorist threats, and trying to be good hosts. Give them a break, ALL Olympics venues have problems. I remember almost getting frostbite in Lake Placid one year because the American Olympics did not bother to hire enough busses, and we had mile long lines waiting for a bus at every event!
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Male 653
A mostly civil and informative discussion on i-a-b? Say it isn`t so.
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Female 2,228
I read a piece just the other day that goes deeper into what`s going on and it`s horrible. The laws spring from our own home grown crazies realizing they`re not going to win here and so they`re exporting hate abroad. They wanted to do here what they`re doing there. Putin needed a scapegoat to help consolidate his power, and they found one.

I read it, went to bed, and woke up with tears in my eyes the next morning...
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Male 4,099
@Listypoos:
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Male 3,147
wow, thanks Rich. There are some on that list that I`m not that surprised at... but places like the netherlands, sweden, finland etc. I am. Shame on them.
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Male 4,099
" today i`ve learnt that `c**t` comes out as `mean person` on here... I always thought that meant arsehole."

Actually, if I`m think of the same word as you, it`s a little further south and specific to a woman.
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Male 4,099
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Male 4,099
@Listypoos:
No problem, and I agree with your statement view on quacking ducks.

I posted this on IAB a while ago,
here. Sweden just closed the last of their sterilization programs, so I think the number is down to 29 member countries who coerce sterilization and 16 that have specific laws dedicated to it.
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Male 3,147
well every day is another day at school... today i`ve learnt that `c**t` comes out as `mean person` on here... I always thought that meant arsehole.
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Male 3,147
"I have been to many a public occasion. I have not one single time, in all the parties and all the decades of work, encountered a heterosexual person who wanted to carry on about his or her activities behind the bedroom door.

To do so would be a sign of a very immature person.

So why is it that gays can`t just go be gay and shut the Hell up about it?

1. Go be gay. Have a nice day.
2. Shut the Hell up about it."

spoken like a true mean person.


if as a hetro you`d historically had all your rights removed and been victimised.... when you had the chance to say `hey i`m hetro and proud`... wouldn`t you?
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Male 3,147
"and Europe is busy sterilizing anyone who wants to be seen as a transsexual. "

Where in Europe is that? I`m not being confrontational about it although I know just typing a question comes across as it sometimes, but I honestly haven`t heard that in the news here in the UK. Is it somewhere in the eastern europe? Here in the UK transexuals have almost the same rights as the rest of us (almost but there are some prison/toilet/school case law exceptions).

I would imagine what countries most UK people see when the term `europe` is rolled off the tongue are the same... you know, your spains....your italys..france etc.

I concede that I don`t know much about recent entries into the Europe community so I am genuinely interested to know which european countries are trying to sterilize transexual people.

btw personally my view is the word transexual is an unnecessary label. If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...it`s a duck to all
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Male 5,872
Is that all they are worried about? In the UK we have extensive flooding in the south and south-west, caused by gay marriage! (for heavens` sake):

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Male 729
I have been to many a public occasion. I have not one single time, in all the parties and all the decades of work, encountered a heterosexual person who wanted to carry on about his or her activities behind the bedroom door.

To do so would be a sign of a very immature person.

So why is it that gays can`t just go be gay and shut the Hell up about it?

1. Go be gay. Have a nice day.
2. Shut the Hell up about it.
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Male 4,099
Meh, I don`t think I`ll ever be called a Russian supporter but its not like the rest of the world is much better. In Africa, South America, and parts of Asia, they treat gays like crap. America has a morality issue with them being married and Europe is busy sterilizing anyone who wants to be seen as a transsexual.
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Male 653
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