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  1. Profile photo of Squrlz4Sale
    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 3:50 pm
    Link: Benjamin Franklin Quotes - A tribute to one of America`s greatest thinkers by Mike Bohl. Nothing new here; just a lot of timeless wisdom.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm

    "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
    B. Franklin
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 2, 2014 at 5:44 pm

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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 6:01 pm
    @ Andrew155: Funny graphic; I like it.

    Fortunately, in the case of Benjamin Franklin, we have his almanacs, where most of these quotes can be verified.
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    Originalform Male 30-39
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    February 2, 2014 at 6:15 pm
    "I like turtles" - Zombie Kid
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 7:50 pm
    He was a fountain of wisdom! A man of many talents, truly a renaissance man.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
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    February 2, 2014 at 8:24 pm
    there more you can do for yourself the more likely you`ll be able to get what you want.-me.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    February 2, 2014 at 8:34 pm
    If ole Ben Franklin was alive to see the state of his great nation today..
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    Jake_Justus Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    "A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats."

    -Benjamin Franklin
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 8:37 pm
    @ Jinxie: I like that! Franklin has a few quotes along the same lines:

    "If you would have your business done, go; if not, send."

    "If you would have a faithful servant and one that you like--serve yourself."

    "He that lives upon hope will die fasting."
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    @ 5Cats: I`m glad you`re also a Franklin fan.

    In light of Franklin`s statement regarding money (see below), I find it ironic that his portrait is on our $100 bill and that "Benjamins" has become slang for cash. Not that I think think Franklin would have disapproved; in fact, somewhere I expect he`s quite pleased with the development. It`s just that I wonder how many people with $100 bills in their hands ever think of Franklin`s words?

    Money has never made man happy, nor will it, there is nothing in its nature to produce happiness. The more of it one has the more one wants.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Ben owned 2 slaves, King & George. Later he changed his mind and became the president of the Abolitionist League. Nowadays they would say he was flip-flopping on issues.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 9:49 pm
    @ Gerry: Interesting. Yes, I`m not sure any of our founding fathers would be able to survive today`s political climate. They were either too radical (Paine and Jefferson); too intellectual (all save Washington); too interested in cutting-edge science (Jefferson and Franklin); or had too many skeletons in the closet (Jefferson).

    Heaven help us. The nation`s become incompatible with the kind of genius that created it.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    S4S - Washington wouldn`t survive. Closet homosexual. He`d be exposed and forced out of office. There is now an audible gasp by the conservative IABers. Yes, he was a fag.

    Washington did what gays did of the time. Delayed marriage by going into the military. When he eventually had to wed, he had no children, he took Martha`s from her first marriage. He had slaves but never took a bed-warmer. He surrounded himself with young revolutionaries whom he called his "family". Among his favorites was John Laurens, who fought a duel to defend Georg`s honor, sullied by some cad for reasons unknown.,

    Washington was suspected of being overly fond of young Alexander Hamilton. Laurens and Hamilton exchanged letters addressed "My Dear" and offered flowery protestations of undying affection. Hamilton responded with "I love you" {Letters on file at Library of Congress and published in Jonathan Katz`s "Gay American History"}
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:25 pm
    The founding father wouldn`t be able to exist in today`s climate. It`s all about the sizzle now. Eisenhower, for example, wouldn`t ever make it past the initial screening. Go watch his farewell address, it`s not exciting enough for people today.

    Reignblazer, I`m pretty sure he`d be pleased that we became the most powerful country in history, and that his own revolution ushered in the era of global Democracy. And yes, it did.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:26 pm
    @ Gerry: Really interesting. I`ve read a fair amount by and about both Jefferson and Franklin, but precious little about Washington. I may have to hunt up a good biography on him; you`ve got me curious now.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:28 pm
    That would be interesting if George Washington were gay. But perhaps he was just infertile?

    Also interesting - the German guy (Von Steuben) he brought to train his army at Valley Forge was also probably gay.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    Jackson could never get elected now because he is...was a red head. Gingers don`t poll well. Roosevelt couldn`t get elected in a wheel chair.

    Mass media has not helped us - It`s limited our choices by commercializing, packaging and selling candidates like breakfast cereals.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    @ S4S - conservatives write off the love letters of Hamilton / Laurens as just young gentlemen practicing their prose style to one another for critique. I say bulls schitt. It`s love letters. Their accomplishments are just as grand no matter who they slept with.

    Conservatives would rather have Alexander Hamilton and George Washington have sex with salve than with a man. Who`s morally bankrupt here?
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    toeachhisown Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:43 pm
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety".

    Progressives hate this one.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    S4S this is gay history. It`s not taught in school. And some would say we don`t have history. We do of course, from Alexander the Great to George Washington. and you know what... it doesn`t matter. Straight or gay, it`s the accomplishments of the individual not who they loved that is important.

    Except Romeo & Juliet, that was all about their love.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    "slave" not "salve"
    Damn autocorrect!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    February 2, 2014 at 10:57 pm
    Hamilton couldn`t have been gay, he would have been bi at the most. He was at the center of the very first sex scandal of our country, after his affair with Maria Reynolds was discovered. Interestingly enough, her attorney at the divorce proceedings was Aaron Burr.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    @ Andrew, I`m sure it`s just a case of "that one time at camp"

    Aaron Burr connection is very cool.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 11:20 pm


    "Hamilton couldn`t have been gay"
    Said by someone who has no idea what it is to be gay in a society that refuses to let you be gay.

    In a "no gays" society you will take a wife, even create a scandal to divert attention. Because you know they will forgive fracking some beyatch, but they will NEVER forgive you for buggering some stable-boy.

    Look deeper than the surface. He could be bi I suppose.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 11:21 pm

    bed time.
    I have an audit tomorrow, may not be online to continue this.
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    ArgusTuft Male 50-59
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    February 2, 2014 at 11:46 pm
    I feel much more like I do now than I did before.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 3:11 am
    So to sum up, the founding fathers were a huge bunch of closet sissyboys? This I never knew. Shame they couldn`t have taken care of the whole gay marriage thing right from the outset.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2014 at 5:50 am
    @Draculya

    and they still booted your ancestors sorry asses out of the country that really says way more about you than anything.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 6:06 am
    "and they still booted your ancestors sorry asses out of the country that really says way more about you than anything."

    It was more the French than anything. You were worth less to us than Europe. We won that, BTW.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 6:17 am
    Oh hey, McG! How`ve you been? I don`t recall seeing you around recently.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2014 at 6:32 am
    It was more the French than anything.

    Except France didn`t join till 1778 you know the thing that began in 1775. Here` what that sounds like "IT`S NOT FAIR YOU HAD AN ENEMY OF OURS JOIN IN A WAR WHAAAAAA!! STRATEGY ISN"T FAAAIIIR!"

    You were worth less to us than Europe. We won that, BTW.

    Not what you mean in the first part but last time I checked we`re not the UKA.

    Oh hey, McG! How`ve you been? I don`t recall seeing you around recently.

    Been around but busy at the house and work so probably been fewer sighting.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    February 3, 2014 at 6:32 am
    Not sure*
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 7:51 am
    Drac: "You were worth less to us than Europe."

    Not really. England needed lumber desperately. So much so King George declared that all wood planks wider than 12" and trees taller than 60`, in America, belonged to him (to make warships with).

    England also had a manpower shortage and was conscripting Americans, and their ships, they started most of the piracy in the open ocean.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 8:22 am
    @ CrakrJak: Interesting info about the trees; I hadn`t heard that before.

    ~Squrlz hugs his tree protectively~

    You English persons can take my tree from my cold dead paws!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 3, 2014 at 10:40 am

    "So to sum up, the founding fathers were a huge bunch of closet sissyboys? "
    55 Not all. But in any group of 30 some men there`s bound to be a couple us. Next time your in a group look around and try to guess who is. Something to pass time.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 11:45 am
    @ Gerry and Draculya: From what you`ve said, Gerry, it makes total sense that Washington was a closeted gay. I look forward to reading a good bio of him this year. Jefferson and Franklin, however, were pretty clearly hetero.

    Jefferson married Martha Skelton at 29, by whom he had six children; after becoming a widower, he developed an intense crush on a beautiful artist of his day, Maria Cosway; and later, of course, there was his pretty slave Sally Hemings, who appears to have been his bedmate at Monticello, and by whom Jefferson had several more children.

    Franklin, for his part, was well-known for being quite the ladies` man and never met a beautiful and intelligent woman with whom he could resist flirting.

    Really interesting topic, guys; I`ve enjoyed this.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 3, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    S4S, Well, obviously Franklin was straight. No gay man would have a hair style like that. Jefferson in commonly known to have been in love with his slave Sally Hemmings. He freed their children.

    Also about Franklin, besides loving beer he often took "air baths". Walking through the woods naked. He wrote about the benefits of getting naked the old pervert.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm
    @ Gerry: LOL re: the hairstyle. Franklin is fascinating. Along with "air baths," he used to--in an age when most people didn`t even swim--float nekkid on his back in a lake near Boston and let a kite pull him across the water. No information on where the kite string was attached.

    When he traveled to London early in life, he spent so much time consorting with prostitutes he later reflected he was lucky he didn`t contract a disease. When I read his maxims regarding controlling one`s own "venery" (as they called sexuality in those days), I get the strong sense he was really trying to reform himself.

    Honestly, I do love both Franklin and Jefferson. I love them faults and all.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    February 3, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Great men always have great flaws. It`s a package deal. That`s something we don`t tolerate nowadays. People want angelic men with no mistakes in their past and certainly not allowed to make an error or have a bad habbit .
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    February 3, 2014 at 2:00 pm
    @ Gerry: I sure wish more Americans had your view of the matter. What we have now is a political system filled with mediocre individuals.

    I`d take one flawed great individual for any thirty or forty of the spotless sort.

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