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Date: 01/20/14 06:07 PM

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    gingernut333 Female 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 6:09 pm
    Link: We Call Them Dumb Animals - Mind blown. Eyes leaking.
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    Stormith Female 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 6:43 pm
    The thing about apes using sign language is: they can replicate but they cannot reformulate. They can use signs and phrases they are taught, but they lack the ability to reorganize sentences and form something meaningful. Example: they can say "I love you" but without any other instruction, they cannot figure out how to say "i love that(item)". So while Michael "describes" his experience, he can only do it by using pre-formed phrases and signs, he cannot form his own full sentences.
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    SgtSolomon Male 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 7:05 pm
    @Stormith

    Was that meant to have any relevance to the post or were you just trying to show off?
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    SgtSolomon Male 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 7:12 pm
    This makes me feel the feels
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    January 20, 2014 at 7:23 pm
    The last sentence spoils it.
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    kawawakaba Male 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 7:59 pm
    I tend to agree with Stormith--- although her only credentials are "archaeology undergrad". I study primate communication for my dissertation, and have met several of the language trained apes (Kanzi and Panbanisha), but never Washoe. These stories tell us more about the caretakers and researchers than about the animals.

    Apes. Cannot. Use. Language.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
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    yowiebear Male 50-59
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    January 20, 2014 at 8:54 pm
    Amazing Stuff.
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    Zismo Male 18-29
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    January 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm
    Apes using language is BS, The Straight Dope did an article on that, pretty funny read. Look it up if you want: Are gorillas using sign language really communicating with humans?
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 21, 2014 at 12:59 am
    Okay- Lets just run the the idea that apes cannot use language... does this mean they cannot communicate? Cannot communicate with OUR language, or at all? Are they therefore lesser in sapience than us- should we treat them as objects? These stories are intended to make us think of animals as people- not things- which we bloody well should be doing. Intelligent creatures are not here for our use... so please, lets just start thinking of them as independent persons because if we do that we may start treating them a damn sight better..
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    January 21, 2014 at 2:12 am
    f ucking humans, we suck.
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    alpensepp Male 70 & Over
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    January 21, 2014 at 3:05 am
    Now i want to become a Gorilla.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    January 21, 2014 at 3:29 am
    @stormith- so how do you explain the gorilla signing tears at the news of the woman`s miscarriage?
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    icdumbpeople Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2014 at 4:05 am
    Great story
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    Wendypants Female 30-39
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    January 21, 2014 at 4:24 am
    Sorry, but other people call them dumb animals... well, at least I haven`t. I hope less and less people do it.
    Neat story.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    January 21, 2014 at 4:43 am
    wow... :(
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2014 at 8:08 am
    "so how do you explain the gorilla signing tears at the news of the woman`s miscarriage?"

    Life`s a Bitch transcends all language.
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    chicagojay Male 40-49
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    January 21, 2014 at 8:12 am
    But they taste so good.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    January 21, 2014 at 9:12 am
    No thinking person could call Gorillas and Chimpanzees dumb animals. I have a problem with people anthropomorphizing snail darters and spotted owls and such, but these animals are clearly very intelligent and should be protected fiercely.
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    xbx214 Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2014 at 10:43 am
    It isn`t the tightest poo. But it does raise my brow to the intelligence internally of our closest related species on this planet
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    January 21, 2014 at 8:58 pm
    @xbx214
    these are not chimps, they`re gorillas.
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    Plangkye Female 18-29
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    January 22, 2014 at 8:50 am
    Koko and Michael are gorillas. Washoe and Loulis are chimps.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm
    So someone writes something with no proof, and it`s to be taken as truth because everyone wants to believe it`s true? And Christians catch so much crap...

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