Cold Weather = No Global Warming

Submitted by: FoolsPrussia 3 years ago in

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Male 579
Oh please, this is no different than the alarmists screaming `global warming` after every hurricane and cyclone. What a joke. truth is we don`t know crap yet! You can`t tell me the earth didn`t have effed up weather on and off since day one of the planet.
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Male 8,533
SethDog-"Just because it is colder than usual in USA doesn`t mean that global warming is a myth,"

No, just the fact that AGW is an agenda driven hoax mens that AGW is a myth.

SethDog-"you need to look at average global temperatures and how they have risen"

And they need to look at average global tempeartures and how they haven`t risen in 15 years.
And they need to look at average global temperatures and see how it`s been hotter in the past.

SethDog-"Weather != climate."

Except when AGW supporters point to ANY weather they can blame on AGW...THEN we`re expected to believe Weather = climate.

They ahve a simple equation: When it supports AGW, Weather = climate. When it does not support AGW, Weather =/= climate. (any argument they made previously that turned out to be incorrect is null and void, and they never actually said that anyway)
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Male 15,832
[quote]We do SEEM to be getting a lot of extreme weather events.[/quote]
Either that, or we`re getting a lot of extreme weather news coverage.
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Male 871
again though 5cats thats not necessarily a valid arguement against the affect man is having on the climate it says more about the improvement in science and technology, along with which will come a better understanding of the effects of pollution etc...
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Male 40,739
@McDuff73: It`s a FACT: weather reporting in the satellite age is far more accurate. In the 50`s and 60`s it was COMMON to have tornadoes un-reported in uninhabited parts of the USA. Ok?
Now every single one is counted. See how that skews the numbers?

Same for a lot of things. We simply SEE more of them, even if the frequency remains the same.

Oh, your later comment covers this :-) good!

Q: Did AGW cause that spike in 1972? Honestly?

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Male 768
Just because it is colder than usual in USA doesn`t mean that global warming is a myth, you need to look at average global temperatures and how they have risen. It doesn`t matter if it is the coldest winter in the last 50 years, data needs to be looked at over a long duration not just year by year, you will always get peaks and valleys on a graph of temperature year by year. Weather != climate.
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Male 2,694
For Pete`s sake if you want to post a pic take some time and re-size the damn thing!

Just another thought that I`ve never heard addressed by the alarmist crowd. Let`s just say you`re right. Oil and coal are causing a slight change in the earth`s ecology for the bad. The earth has a remarkable ability to heal itself. Do you people honestly think that it`s really game over for the planet? We will solve the pollution problem in time. I don`t see the need to enact policies that wreck entire economies. And billions sent out of the US to help others clean up their own house could be better spent at home. I mean I hear all day long how the US needs to mind its own business. Or does that not apply when the US money train pulls into the station?
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Male 8,533
McDuff73-"although to be fair that could be down to better detection"

That`s true of many things. Just think of the hurricanes we never knew about prior to 1960.
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Male 871
although to be fair that could be down to better detection, but it does go to show that using one indicator to attempt to trash the idea of man affecting the climate is silly.
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Male 871
another graphic from NOAA seems there are more tornadoes.

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Male 871
the graphic I posted is also from the NOAA seems they are confused as to how many tornadoes there actually were.

Yes there was less acreage burnt than in 2012 and 2011 but more than 2010! the fact there are less fires and less damage could be put down to better firefighting quicker spotting etc.. I`m no expert.
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Male 8,533
McDuff73-"943 tornadoes reported in 2013 in the US with 713 confirmed,compared with less than 400 last year and around 900 in 2011"

Strange, the numbers listed on NOAA are 891 in 2013, 939 in 2012 & 1894 in 2011.

McDuff73-"there have been two periods without category 4 and above for 10 years each!"

Yes, but we were promised MORE AND STRONGER hurricanes caused by Global Warming.

Plus, according to Nationl Interagency Fire Center, 2013 had less than halve the acreage destroyed by fire than both 2012 & 2011.
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Male 871
according to these chaps there have been two periods without category 4 and above for 10 years each!

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml
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Male 871
943 tornadoes reported in 2013 in the US with 713 confirmed,compared with less than 400 last year and around 900 in 2011
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Male 8,533
madduck-"We do SEEM to be getting a lot of extreme weather events"

That`s just it. It only SEEMS like it, as it`s an agenda and every instance is screamed to high heaven.

In reality, occurences of extreme weather events are actually lower than normal:

2013 Weather events:
Tornadoes: Lowest total in several decades.
Number of wildfires: On pace to be the lowest it has been in the past ten years
Extreme Heat: The number of 100 degree days may turn out to be the lowest in about 100 years of records
Hurricanes: Currently in the longest period (8 years) since the Civil War Era without a major hurricane strike in the US (i.e., category 3, 4 or 5)

(and I`m sure that if the majority of people REALIZE that the instances are lower than normal, the AGW Brigade will start screaming how BELOW AVERAGE instances are PROOF of AG, regardless of what they said yesterday)
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Male 8,533
QueenZira-"Global warming causes global weirding"

In other words, "Anything that happens we will blame on Global Warming, and make you scared of it."

lauriloo-"Like people who want to continue smoking deny it causes lung cancer"

The difference, of course, is that there is direct, provable evidence that smoking will increase your chance of getting lung cancer. And can predict pretty much what will happen when you do.

Global Alarmist? Not so much.

I know what smoking can cause, I also know other factors that go into it. I still enjoy the occasional stogie. It`s called `an informed decision`.
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Male 5,811
To all of you complaining about country-viewing issues, just get Hola already.
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Female 170
We`re having an insanely warm winter here in Sweden! No global warming my a**
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Male 5,626
Zira, this is what I like to use, daily.


See the northern hemisphere?
Notice the mountains in Peru and south.
Notice the only thing shielding India from being cold enough to snow is mountainous Nepal.

See the orange/areas in the sea? 20 years ago, the orange area was as small as the red. They`re getting smaller.

There were events that happened in our entire solar system that have largely been ignored because of this distraction.

It`s not just cold weather. It`s a planet that`s cooling off. It may be the whole solar system that`s cooling off.
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Female 8,046
We do SEEM to be getting a lot of extreme weather events... and gambling that anthropogenic climate change is a myth is a HUGE gamble.. not worth it.
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Male 557
I must say climate change sure is a natural thing that happens over thousands of years, but I`m sure humans have accelerated the cycle we are currently in and it sure isn`t going to be pretty down the road. Especially if they start trying to control the weather, oh boy!
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Male 15,832
[quote]Colder than a bank managers heart.[/quote]
Cold enough to freeze the balls off a pool table.

(I just love dropping that one in mixed company. o:-) )
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Male 15,832
The vast majority of global warming skeptics are well aware that weather events are not evidence of long-term climate change. However, global warming alarmists are ALWAYS pointing to weather as "proof" of global warming, or "climate change." Most of the time when global warming skeptics point to weather as proof against global warming, they`re just trolling the global warming alarmists by giving them a taste of their own medicine.

It should be noted that the global warming f***tards who got trapped in the ice in Antarctica were doing EXACTLY what they falsely accuse skeptics of doing: using weather at a particular time in a particular place to support their argument for long-term global climate change. Their ill-conceived mission and the efforts it took to save them (finally including a 100,000 hp diesel-powered icebreaker) probably spewed more CO2 into the atmosphere than everyone who posts in this thread combined for their entire lives.
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Male 40,739
YouTube Link

Colder than a bank managers heart.
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Female 2,228
People who assume cold = no global warming are mistaken. It was explained thusly by my Environmental Science professor, "Global warming causes global weirding, we`re not going to see the disappearance of cold altogether because if that happens we have bigger problems, at that point the Earth is hurtling toward the Sun."

Global weirding is what we`ve got alright, from Scandinavia`s early spring, to Britain`s soaking wet winter and America`s subzero snap.

I would also like to point out that facts can be delivered in a funny, smart way, like Stewart does and still be facts. That they were amusing does not render what was said untrue. That`s the mark of a good social critic.

And then you have folks like Stossel, who don`t have fact based humor and who are about as funny as a car fire.
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Male 40,739
@Viking864: The Artic Ice is doing great this year! Early freeze-up and looking like record setting thickness.

You AGW fans do know that Stewart is a comedian, right? Y`all are treating it as if he were serious or actually knew something about the subject...

I can`t watch the video, but if Stewart`s the -best- argument you got? You got nothing...
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Male 2,675
In Death Valley there`s a bunch of global warming! Antarctica not so much.

Wonder why they call it GLOBAL warming then. *blonde head tilt*
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Male 1,412
yep being surrounded by pack ice in the middle of the summer--clear evidence of global warming. Where did these "scientists" get their degrees? Mail order from Sears??
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Male 1,449
Makes perfect sense to me. The weather patterns and average temperatures have been fluctuating since day one and has been a heck of a lot hotter and colder in the past - regardless if humans were around or not. I am open to the possibility that humans have an impact on it, but I have yet to see any concrete evidence. The most abundant greenhouse gas is water vapor (per NASA). Interesting that there is much talk about the melting ice in the north pole, but very little about the increase of ice at the south pole.
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Male 7,925
wtf does that even mean twinklestein? To say the climate changes on a whim is only partially true. Just like when you make a greenhouse and you release a ton of gases into said greenhouse it gets warmer. The Earth is no different. What percentage do we contribute? I really don`t know but to say we don`t contribute or the climate won`t change because of us seems a little premature to say the least.
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Male 701
yes it is pretty inconvientient for you, just believe what you want.
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Female 1,803
"The climate will change in spite of us, not because of us."

Not true but that`s what people who don`t want to do anything about it want to think and will cling to until they die. Like people who want to continue smoking deny it causes lung cancer and other health problems because they know one smoker who died of old age instead.
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Male 510
The climate will change in spite of us, not because of us.
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Male 5,872
Due to global warming this video only plays in the United States.
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Male 4,431
Sadly, convincing those who don`t want to be convinced that weather =/= climate seems an impossible task. Pointing out that it`s actually summer in Australia and there are heat records being broken there doesn`t work, either. Such is life, I guess?
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Male 3,445
Link: Cold Weather = No Global Warming [Rate Link] - Iron-clad logic
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