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26 Responses to A Prison Where Inmates Are Treated Like People

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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2014 at 11:24 am
    Link: A Prison Where Inmates Are Treated Like People - Can you guess which country?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2014 at 5:40 pm
    LOL. Bring that system to Detroit, I`m sure it will work. Maybe they have the luxury of easy prisons because they are the equivalent to our New Hampshire.

    Besides, we already have prisons where the prisoners run the prison. And it doesn`t work.

    So please, Norwegian system applied to US or Brazil, or any other country will not yield, well, Norway. Do people really believe that?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2014 at 5:44 pm
    Anders Breivik`s cell is bigger than my college dorm.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2014 at 6:30 pm
    I kind of get that a plain cell and being locked up is boring but they are supposed to be being punished.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2014 at 7:41 pm
    It can be said that if we changed our system to be similar to Norway`s, it just wouldn`t work- for many reasons- and that`s true.
    However, our present system doesn`t work- unless you`re in the prison business, of course.
    If we removed the brutalization, rape, gang influence and boredom, replaced those with meaningful hands on life skills and vocational/educational programs- for minor, white crime and nonviolent criminals at first- and s-l-o-l-y make changes to the system as a whole, perhaps we`d begin to see a better outcome from tax dollars.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    January 22, 2014 at 8:01 pm
    wow, I never thought that that`s how it was in Norway. It`s actually inspirational.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 22, 2014 at 10:30 pm
    F*** `em! Feed `em fish heads.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 22, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    Perhaps our cultures are different. Perhaps you don`t have children brought up in a crime culture. It`s a shame but their families ruined their lives raising them to be criminals. Giving them a really nice hotel room, I think, will not reform a single thug.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 22, 2014 at 11:33 pm
    I am seriously considering moving to Norway- not sure if my skills will allow me. This makes sense- economic as recidivism rates are low, humane because it focuses on rehabilitation and it allow people to look at the cause of crime. This gives the whole population the benefit of realising that we are all human, all able to behave badly- yet most of us can redeem ourselves- kinder and happier for all concerned.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 22, 2014 at 11:58 pm
    I am seriously considering moving to Norway- not sure if my skills will allow me.
    Do you think you could pull off a mass murder? If so, you can get a free apartment with meals included. I hear they`re pretty nice.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2014 at 12:01 am
    It`s a question of punishment vs rehabilitation. Punishment is more profitable and yeilds a better return on capital employed.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2014 at 1:12 am
    You have to think what a justice system is used for. If it`s revenge then lock people up for life feed em `fish head` and accept they will commit more crimes more riots more money from the tax payer.

    If you think the justice system is to minimise harm then you would look at a lot of the rehabilitation methods and spend more on social and state intervention to stop "families ruining their lives" raising them to be criminals.

    If you think that society and raising dosn`t make any difference then you`re punishing someone they have no control over. If you do then you should be willing to accept social schemes to help people in crime predisposition lifestyles.

    Ultimately rehabilitation method is cheaper, and better for society. It`s more proactive as it stops more victims being crated. The revenge punishment system costs more money and creates a cycle of ever more victims of crime.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2014 at 3:51 am
    "This gives the whole population the benefit of realising that we are all human, all able to behave badly- yet most of us can redeem ourselves- kinder and happier for all concerned."

    ^^ yes.

    I really think Norway hits close to the mark with jails like these.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2014 at 4:33 am
    drating stupid.

    Convicted. Criminals.

    They no longer have the same rights.

    I see 100 things in the Norwegian cell that could be used to kill someone.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2014 at 4:35 am
    I`m gonna move to Norway and rob a bank if I ever become homeless. poo look at that free room!
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    January 23, 2014 at 5:58 am
    Apples and oranges.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2014 at 8:02 am
    @drawman61

    "but they are supposed to be being punished."

    No, they are supposed to be being rehabilitated.
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
    2581 posts
    January 23, 2014 at 8:24 am
    If you take away people`s torture porn they realize what a crappy lot in life they really have. This is a perfect example. People getting mad because America has turned into a pit of despair and this place hasn`t.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    January 23, 2014 at 8:59 am
    Prison is neither 100% rehabilitation, nor 100% punishment. Seriously, some of you think it`s 100% rehabilitation? Then what`s the point of taking their freedom away in the first place. That`s punishment for, you know, killing, raping, or pillaging.

    Otherwise, we could just make them take night classes and do community service, and then they`d suddenly not be murderers (that`s literally how easy you guys think it is).

    I`ve heard the argument a number of times. This person who committed x crime is unlikely to do so again, so we don`t need to give her a hard sentence. Then what`s the point of sending her to jail at all if not for punishment?

    Do this in Detroit. Do this in Brazil. I dare you. I triple dog dare you, mothercluckers. Don`t be reckless.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 23, 2014 at 9:02 am
    No AgentSmith, it`s because it`s Norway and a comparison between the two countries is fracking stupid. Their largest city doesn`t even have a million people. If we are to compare the two, we should be allowed to isolate New Hampshire, Vermont, and Minnesota. In that case, we do pretty damn well, if not better.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    January 23, 2014 at 10:41 am
    For those of you saying how stupid this is- look at the recidivism rates...
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    January 23, 2014 at 11:01 am
    "...Prison is neither 100% rehabilitation, nor 100% punishment..." And do tell, how long have you spent in a prison institution?

    It is a little disgusting how a vast majority of people believe that a criminal must be completely devoid of all morals, values, deserve our complete scorn and should have all their human rights suspended.

    I would wager at least 65% of people on this website have done something that would land them with jail time. A lot of the time the only difference between criminal and non is the criminal got caught.

    People are sent to prison as punishment, not for further punishment.

    I would also hazard to say that unless you have spent time in a penal institution, you aren`t even remotely qualified to comment on how easy it is in there, or a free ride, how bad the punishment is, or isn`t.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    January 23, 2014 at 12:51 pm
    madduck, recidivism rates don`t mean anything in themselves. For instance, if you`re less likely to send people to jail anyways, you will get less people going to jail. That`s Captain Obvious stuff.

    I suggest you read
    this.

    Recidivism rates by US state (America is diverse!), they range from the 20`s to the 50`s.

    Mississippi, the poorest state, had almost a Norwegian recidivism rate from 1999-2002. Oklahoma, basically the most "redneck" state had a rate of only 26% 2004-2007. West Virginia, also a hick state, only 26%.

    California at 57% though, Oregon 22% (Norway rate), Illinois 50%. There are reasons why for each.

    Be a little more dynamic in your thoughts.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    January 23, 2014 at 1:58 pm
    21 years for the murder of 77 people ya they got it all figured out.

    How about we send you our inmates and you can let them live like that. They`ll take those objects make them into weapon and murder all the staff.
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
    688 posts
    January 23, 2014 at 5:50 pm
    Andrew155, thank you for that study. I am writing a research proposal for class about recidivism rates, and this will provide me with useful information.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    January 24, 2014 at 9:17 am
    @Andrew155

    "Then what`s the point of taking their freedom away in the first place."

    To protect the public from them whilst they`re being rehabilitated.

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