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Date: 01/06/14 08:17 AM

27 Responses to 10 Countries With The Most Slaves

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    hfnv Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2014 at 8:20 am
    Link: 10 Countries With The Most Slaves - Is your country one of them?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Skeptic Gerry is skeptical.
    No doubt there are still slaves, but how is "slave" defined in by the pc groups who count this stuff? Legally a word can mean whatever they want. Consentual sex can be "rape" sometimes so is a cycle of poverty & low wage "slavery" ?

    I suspect the numbers in that video are inflated.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2014 at 9:28 am
    I agree Gerry. I really thought that North Korea would be on here at #1 or at least somewhere on the list.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2014 at 10:09 am
    I thought the US had the most slaves.
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    LadyMorgue Female 30-39
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    January 6, 2014 at 10:25 am
    @Gerry - I`d also like to know what they are defining it as for the sake of the video.

    I don`t doubt there are millions of people around the world forced into slavery, I don`t count people who work in sweatshop type environments to be slaves unless they are underage (children) who are forced to do it.

    Unfortunately there are countless child (and adult) sex slaves for the sake of tourism in a lot of Eastern countries. Perhaps they could be counting that?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2014 at 10:49 am

    One could say all women in strict muslim nations are slaves. They have no say in any part of their life, no freedom at all, and are sold in marriage to be the chattel of the husband.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    January 6, 2014 at 11:20 am
    A lot of that will be sex-slavery and indentured labour. But even in western nations slavery is suprisingly common.

    I personally would define slavery as any job you can`t quit.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2014 at 11:39 am
    I highly doubt there are 500,000 slaves in Russia. I assume they consider migrant workers? Well, most of them move to Russia willingly. So, just compare to European slave trade - did they get the Africans to willingly move to their colonies, or did they buy them from African warlords that enslaved them? Well, these "slaves" are willingly moving to Russia and most are enjoying higher living standards as "slaves" in Russia.
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    som-tam Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2014 at 11:40 am
    @Ladymorgue: Eastern countries? I would say that the girls who work in the sex industry in these countries are there because of poverty, or because of pressure from their family to earn above average salaries. The sex-slaves are in the west. Shipped over from such countries with promises of waitressing work.

    In places like Thailand you could argue that the girls (and boys)are exploited, but it is their own decision to work in the industry and can leave whenever they want.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2014 at 12:01 pm

    LordJim, "I personally would define slavery as any job you can`t quit."
    So a NFL player earning millions is a slave because he`s under contract and cannot quit?
    Indentured servitude is a limited contract freely entered into. Ex."I will pay your way to emigrate and you must work for me for 5 years." Not slavery.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    All christian nations should have slaves. Bible endorses it and you want to live in a godly manner don`t you?
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    January 6, 2014 at 12:28 pm
    dats f ucked up.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    January 6, 2014 at 12:50 pm
    Gerry,

    If a NFL player decides to pack it in, retire, retrain as a teacher, whatever, would he be physically prevented from doing so? Would he be beaten, locked in a compound? His family threatened with death? I don`t know anything about American sports. Or would it just involve giving up some money?

    Indentured servitude is a bit more than that, Gerry. Basically, you owe me and you (or your offspring) will work for me until I decide you have paid off your debt. And the debt increases as you are charged more for food and housing than your debt decreases. Put at least a little effort in. If you are going to express an opinion on what indentured servitude actually means in India and Pakistan then spend a little time finding out what it means.
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    FoolsPrussia Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2014 at 12:56 pm
    "I highly doubt there are 500,000 slaves in Russia. I assume they consider migrant workers? Well, most of them move to Russia willingly."

    That`s not the only definition of slavery. For instance, Qatar`s immigrant worker practices are considered modern slavery by international organizations because the business owners hold the employee`s passport. If a worker wants to quit, he has to get permission from his employer. The workers go to Qatar willingly, but they have no real freedom of movement.

    Here`s the State Dept. definition
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2014 at 1:04 pm
    The US IS a Cristian nation with plenty of slaves. They`re called welfare recipients that keep voting Democrat. *





    *It`s called hyperbole. Look it up if you`re confused.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 6, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    LordJim, The point is, your definition of slavery was so broad that it could encompass half the free people on the planet. A child doing chores at home is a "slave" by your definition.
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2014 at 1:26 pm
    I wish the video had included a reference or definition of what they call slavery. I imagine the numbers reported can swing wildly based on that definition. For example, do these number only include legal forms of slavery? Or does it also include people (especially sex workers) who are illegally enslaved by organized crime?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2014 at 2:12 pm
    Yes, FP, I`m completely aware of that. And I doubt Russia has a half million of them. A lot of the ones considered slaves can go back to Tajikistan whenever they want, there`s a pretty nifty customs union.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    January 6, 2014 at 2:15 pm
    And I think it`s important to mention the totally watered down modern definition of slavery. It definitely takes away from actual slavery, the hardcore stuff we all learned about. There are different levels of abuse, but just because there is abuse doesn`t make it enslavement.
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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    January 6, 2014 at 7:32 pm
    According to black people, I am responsible for every slave in the US since the 1600`s. My family didn`t even get to the US until the 1930`s, but there you have it.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    January 6, 2014 at 10:55 pm
    From the link "Modern slavery generates profit of over US $32 billion for slaveholders."

    That`s twice as profitable as Berkshire Hathaway!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    January 6, 2014 at 10:56 pm
    So, why is the US still catching all the $#!+ about slavery?
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
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    January 7, 2014 at 12:45 am
    While I am NOT saying that slavery doesn`t exist in this world, these people are certainly using a rather loose and all encompassing definition of "Slave" for their "Please Give Us Donations" charity website.

    While I agree working in hazardous conditions for very little pay is heinous, it is hardly "Slavery" as we would define it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    January 7, 2014 at 7:15 am
    For a frame of reference, at the height of slavery in the United States, there were about 400,000.
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    YugureKage Female 18-29
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    January 7, 2014 at 9:11 am
    SleepyHollow:

    As the world changes, so must our definitions. In the West, especially in the U.S., many would define slavery as what is was in the earliest days of our nation. But times change. That definition may not be accurate anymore.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    January 7, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Slavery is the ownership of another person as property. We all know this and confusing this by over-extending the definition to accommodate some personal or political agenda does their own cause a disservice.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
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    January 11, 2014 at 4:14 pm
    I think almost every one of them were higher than the U.S. numbers during slavery. But the U.S. catches the most heat for it. Not saying it`s right, but other countries need to be brought to light.
    The only difference is, here people have a pulpit, and they`re allowed to use it. So it`s used erroneously.

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