Edward Snowden`s Christmas Message [Pic+]

Submitted by: 747Pilot 3 years ago in

What do you think?
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Male 292
obvious discusting Gay agenda is obvious
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Male 296
(cont.)

if enough judges deem it unconstitutional
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Male 296
He stole documents because he felt the US government was violating constitutional law by invading the private lives of its citizens. He did what he felt he needed to do to help protect people`s liberties. He put his own life/freedom on the line for others, that`s a hero by definition.

he·ro
A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life

Was it overkill to steal 2000 documents? Maybe, maybe not. I can`t say without knowing what was contained in those documents. Do I think he solely did this all for profit, don`t know the man so I can`t say. But his actions have changed things for the better and that has to count for something.

What I DO know is that thew information he has brought to light has changed the game, the public knowledge of the NSA`s dealings has forced the government to rethink its approach to spying and may end up shutting it down all together if enough ju
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Male 38,468

@ Dragonace - well you certainly tripped me up with that brilliant logic. You are 100% right I do not have any physical evidence he sold the 2000 Top Secret document he stole.

But aren`t you nit-picking? HE CONFESSED TO STEALING OVER 2000 TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS. What part of that is just too subtle for you to clue into? He is a traitor by his own admission.
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Male 14,332
[quote]without any sort of proof or evidence you can`t claim that its fact.[/quote]

Ya well the over 2000 docs is a fact. So you think Russia would just let him sit on those with asylum and if they did take them disclose it ROLF!!!
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Male 296
So its just speculation, that`s what I thought.

I`m not saying whether he did or not, but without any sort of proof or evidence you can`t claim that its fact. Simply because you`re not a fan of Putin doesn`t mean that Snowden has sold all of America`s secrets to him. When you find some actual documentation on him selling documents to other countries, let me know.
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Male 14,332
[quote]but the rest of the world see him as a hero."[/quote]

Nah only to bitter little twits like you who`d rather side with countries that want to destroy you as much as the US.
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Male 14,332
@Dragonace

For what? It`s called common sense you think Russia run by a former KGB agent is going to give him asylum while he sits on top secret docs for nothing?? ROFL!!
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Male 296
Links?
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Male 14,332
@Dragonace

Ya Russia such a lovey and free place Eurotwats never seem to banter on about here would just let him sit there with a load of top secret documents for free.....
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Male 14,332
[quote]@DinVen don`t listen to McG,he is just a bigot, bitter close minded.[/quote]

That`s ironic coming from you because your the same about the US with all your Eurotwat friends. Thing is you act all innocent but your countries do exactly the same.
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Male 296
Gerry1of1 - Do you have actual evidence that he has sold documents to other countries or are you just speculating? If so please provide links, I have not heard anything about him selling any documents at this point. It was my understanding that he was simply sitting on them and would continue to release them a little at a time until the NSA stops spying on US citizens.
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Male 38,468

Listy - the 2000 other top secret documents are fact. He also had a number of laptops with him and no one knows what is on those.

As for the trial, you are right he hasn`t had one. But we do have his public confessions to go with so.... shoot him at dawn.
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Male 3,147
"It`s the other 2,000 documents he never read and sold off that bother me. He accidentally exposed a problem when he was on the lamb for his treason."


Is that fact or just an allegation or rumour though?

He`s not had any trial to determine any guilt or offence commmited....until that time I wouldn`t believe a `fact` the government say about him, they have their own little pr machine rolling don`t forget.
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Male 38,468

@ Draculya - That is how he`s marketed himself. The reality is he stole 2000 plus documents and put them up for sale. Knowing the authorities were wise to him he took it on the lamb and ran. He bought is way into Russia by giving them the top secret information he stole.

No, sorry, he did not "intentionally" sacrifice anything. He just got caught when he didn`t think he would. Yes, we have all learned 1 ... ONE .... valuable thing from his treason. Now, about those other 2000 documents he sold off ?

Edward Snowden should be shot at dawn.
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Male 14,827
I`m not normally one that supports whistleblowers, but Snowden really sacrificed himself to help the world.
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Male 38,468

@ Tired Old Ollie - Don`t make it a "party thing". BUSH spied on the populace. Bush wiped his ass with the Constitution. Bush seized American citizens and held them without trial, without legal representation for YEARS. With out Your Beloved Bush to open the door, Obomba could never have done the deeds he did.

Both are pooE
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Male 15,832
There were better ways to accomplish the good he intended. On the other hand, he showed the world that Obama is an even bigger @$$hole than Bush.
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Male 38,468

Had he just exposed the one horrible wrong and sacrificed his career to right this misdeed, I would hail him as a HERO.

It`s the other 2,000 documents he never read and sold off that bother me. He accidentally exposed a problem when he was on the lamb for his treason. He is no hero. If we learned something good from his misdeed that does not make him a good guy.
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Male 145
also please don`t get me wrong snowden is a traitor
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Male 145
@Gerry1of1 = yes the companies are listening to our conversations, reading our emails, reading our social media and looking at our pictures. the US govt. is just one of many that is collecting and categorizing it.
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Male 38,468

piperfawn, [quote]"Sorry USA...but the rest of the world see him as a hero."[/quote]
And since when has the USA ever cared what the rest of the world thought?
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Male 2,578
Four US presidents have been assassinated in history. Everybody knows JFK and Lincoln, the other two are McKinley and Garfield. Do you really think McKinley and Garfield are killed by the illuminati?

You don`t have any evidence for who killed them and why, just this ominous "the powers that be" have all the real power and control the president. No evidence, though.

THEN there`s actual oppression with actual evidence. I pointed out the American defectors who are killed by Russians once their use is up. Then there are journalists like Politovskaya that are actually killed - not just hypothetically. And then there are those like Alexander Litvinenko dying of radiation. You just don`t know what you`re talking about.

People don`t seem to understand this, but whatever the US is doing - Canada is 100% doing as well. The UK is 98% doing it, other Nato allies are 90% doing it. This is how IR plays out in the real world.
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Male 2,578
That`s really stupid, piperfawn.

Firstly, even the Swedish PM Olaf Palme was assassinated in recent history. And a foreign minister of theirs was assassinated 10 years ago. Sweden is usually considered the ultimate utopia, and their leaders still gets assassinated.

The most recent assassination attempt was on Ronald Reagan. It was done by a guy who wanted to impress Jody Foster. Reagan narrowly survived. Before that, it was two separate attempts on President Ford. They were basically cult members. So those are stupid examples.

I assume you mean JFK. The problem is you can`t name who killed him and why.
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Male 5,080
Andrew155 name all the presidents of your country that have been killed pls. After that just try to immagine how an unknown person in will of going against the "great powers" can feel safe where you live.If also presindents were killed try to figure out how an unknown little fish can be safe.
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Male 2,578
piperfawn, you obviously don`t know much, especially about the Cold War. The Russians have a habit of casting aside defectors once their value has been used up. His life is in far more danger with the Russians than anywhere.

Defector "falling down the stairs"
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Male 2,578
So while you guys are speculating about potential authoritarianism here, Snowden actually is in fascist countries, helping their fascist intelligence services. Just fyi.
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Male 2,578
He`s a self-obsessed guy who just wants to be famous. Read anything he`s ever said, he thinks "this will make me cool".

His whole deal is about NSA snooping on Americans, but he keeps revealing spying on foreigners, as though that`s an "American thing". Guess what, Sweden does it. Switzerland does it. France, UK. All the high horse countries that are "outraged" spy on foreigners. It`s called "Intelligence", and even Merkel does it. It`s an entirely different issue than domestic snooping.

Frack, China does it worse than anyone, but literally nobody gives a shiite that the actual fascist state of China is doing all of this because they only care about the potentially maybe-someday-hypothetical fascist state of America. With that in mind, Snowden`s first choice of asylum is China, and then Russia.
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Male 5,080
lauriloo "there are much more legit ways to do it" can you tell us some example? What he have done was the only choice since his life was in danger. I don`t think he really had so much ways to do what he have done. One of the way way you suggest was to be kidnaped from some of your "secret agency",take a bullet in the head and being burned in the middle of some desert?
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Female 1,803
I`m glad that there are now discussions about how the NSA does their business but I really hate how Snowden did it. If he wanted to be a whistleblower for honest reasons there are much more legit ways to do it that don`t put people`s lives at risk.
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Male 5,080
DinVen don`t listen to McG,he is just a bigot, bitter close minded.
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Male 1,237
You seem such a pleasant man, mcgovern
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Male 5,080
Sorry USA...but the rest of the world see him as a hero.
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Male 390
What on earth are you talking about now McGovern1981?

Humans are humans - where ever they reside - to a lot of people here in Europe.
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Male 14,332
As long as it gets people from the US killed it`s cool with the Eurotwats.....
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Male 1,454

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Male 38,468

@ C_Frost - companies aren`t listening in on your phone conversations. There`s a difference .
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Male 145
I still fail to see why people are so upset about what the government is doing, this is information we willing give away to everyone. companies have been collecting and analyzing our information for decades
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Female 2,927
since they are spying on us why do i have to fill out a phone book thick ream of forms to get anything done with them? cant they just look at their data? "Oh it`s her,... hmmm... yeah she doesn`t qualify but dont tell her for three months, then two months later tell her she needs to get her preschool`s principle`s current phone number and his wife`s maiden name to refile."
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Male 550
Of course he did the world a favor.
Well, the world minus the USA.

Hi Gerry,
he definitely is a hero.

Rumors are going that Luxemburg is going to give him asyl.
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Male 38,468

Now Mr. Snowden, please tell us how you justify stealing and sellling the other 2000 top secret documents you took with you to Russia when you fled your own country after betraying it.

Oh, and the 6 lap tops in your luggage that were filled with top secret files and info.... who did you sell those to?

And some people think this guy is a hero ?
Not how I define `hero` he aint.
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Male 1,454
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