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23 Responses to Vet Shares Heartbreaking Story Of Malpractice

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2013 at 9:45 am
    Link: Vet Shares Heartbreaking Story Of Malpractice - Warning: This is a depressing, sad, tough video. Robin Temple`s doctor told her she had PTSD--he was wrong.
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    elderban Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2013 at 10:04 am
    Nearly the same thing happened to my father. Took him in after an accident, they said he was fine, just had a few broken bones and that they would heal on their own. The next day he had blood in his urine, so we took him to the ER, the ended up transferring him to a trauma unit in another county. Come to find out he had five broken ribs (front and back) that nearly pierced his heart, lung and kidney, a - literally - shattered collar bone and a broken scapula, all of which had to be put back into place by screws and metal rods. All of this required three surgeries and more than a months stay in the hospital plus six months of rehab. His injuries were so bad that they had to call in a specialist from out of town...and the doctors exact words were "I`ve never seen anyone who`s had an accident like this actually survive...".
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    November 13, 2013 at 10:35 am
    dont worry, obamacare will take care of you :)
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    November 13, 2013 at 10:43 am
    JJEEEEEEEEESUS - that was frickin AWFUL.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2013 at 11:09 am
    A buddy of mine I served with in both Iraq & Afghanistan got f*cked up when he was having his wisdom teeth removed. He was still on active duty at the time and I was close to EASing when he had the surgery at the Camp Lejeune Naval Hospital. They ended up severing a nerve which ultimately led to his medical discharge & prescription painkiller addiction.

    After his discharge he came back to this area (he`s from CT & lives in NYC now) and went to the VA for help. He was able to go through rehab for the drugs and ended up getting 100%+ disability for the nerve damage & drug addiction caused by the surgery and also for PTSD.

    So basically, I think Veterans experiences at the VA all depend on their location. I`ve never had a problem at any VA facilities I`ve used in NY (Castle Point, Montrose, Bronx) but I`ve heard plenty of horror stories from other places.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    November 13, 2013 at 11:19 am
    Just had dinner, so will not watch.
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    MelCervini Female 40-49
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    November 13, 2013 at 11:31 am
    This is the epitome of socialized medicine... brace yourselves folks, we tried to stop it.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2013 at 11:31 am
    I hope someone who`s a money hungry lawyer sees this and goes after everyone involved for as much money as they can get. She deserves it all.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    November 13, 2013 at 11:44 am
    This is NOT the epitome of socialised medicine- in case you did not notice this did NOT happen in the UK, but in the USA..
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    I know the VA in Maryland is one of the best places in maryland for care. But I think people would be very surprised how many mistakes go on in hospitals. Both my parents worked in hospitals for years the malpractice is amazing. I heard stories of people accidently dropping and kicking kidney transplants, sickle cell patients getting saline solution instead of morphine, doctors referring out patients because they don`t know simple biology and don`t mess with more advanced cases, surgeons that cut off the wrong limbs by mistake, surgical tools and rags that get forgotten and sewn into the patient, lots of stuff.

    One of the reasons is, that medical schools are requiring less to push out doctors or because of the costs. The Maryland school of dentistry, the oldest dental school, no longer requires nor offers residency training. Fellowships are on the decrease too. These programs teach a huge wealth of knowledge.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    Another problem is that the Doctors and surgeons work impossible hours. 12-18 hours sometimes!!! If people are so against airline pilots and truckers going without sleep, why would you want someone performing a surgery on you who is half awake? And the hospital won`t let them off if they say they are sleepy, they`ll just say "drink some coffee real quick and go back in"
    Another problem is what doctors are allowed to do. Sometimes hospitals or insurance companies regulations prohibit certain procedures because of cost or risk. Even if the doctor is proficient in it.
    More nursing assistants can be a problem too, hospitals want more nursing assistants because they cost less, but they are also less trained than RN`s or doctors. I`ve heard stories of people on "do not resuscitate" lists being brought back by nursing assistants doing CPR, and old people who had broken hips being written off as "fussy old men."
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    The list goes on and on, people being hospitalized instead of being allowed to go home simply so the hospital can make more money. Hospitals imposing quota systems for procedures and hospitalization. Medical schools accepting lower GPA`s, the loss of certain groups in the medical field like certain forms of lab technicians. ECT.
    These are what drive costs up in our healthcare system. Obamacare doesn`t fix these things it just provides quicker payments for hospitals and creates more expensive useless administrators.

    If you look at free market clinics and surgical centers the prices are so low you often even don`t even need insurance for medical procedures.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    For a procedure like a Complex Bilateral Sinus Surgery at a normal hospital it will run around $33500 not including the surgeon and anesthesiologist, but at a free market surgical center like the Surgery Center of Oklahoma you`ll pay just $5800 with everything included and the same high standards and they do twice as many surgeries per doctor. The reason is because the hospital doesn`t inflate the prices of each thing to over cover numerous uninsured people and numerous administrative costs. The free market hospitals have to keep their costs low enough so that an average person can pay. And what about those uninsured you may ask? There are payment plans available so people can pay over time, even poor people.
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    richanddead Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    All the previous problems I mentioned would also be taken care of because the free market hospitals are literally run by the doctors who do the diagnosis and surgeries and know the system and all its flaws inside and out not hospital administrators who major in accounting and lobbying the state and federal governments for funding.

    A person like this woman would never have to go multiple places just to get care with a free market surgical center. The center would have an incentive to recheck all of her work so that they are not sued and are able to keep an awesome reputation in order to simply remain competitive.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    @madduck

    This is NOT the epitome of socialised medicine- in case you did not notice this did NOT happen in the UK, but in the USA..
    I don`t get it. The US has had socialized medicine since the 1960`s. We outspend - with public funds alone - more than just about everyone else per capita on healthcare.
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    IAFYM Female 18-29
    131 posts
    November 13, 2013 at 5:31 pm
    Such a terrible story, however I will say that things like this will happen with the medical industry. Our bodies, while pretty much the same internally all may react in different ways.

    @MelCervini - Most of Europe has socialised medicine and it works just fine here. A few years ago I had a problem with my gallbladder (impacted gall stone leading to infection and eventual bursting/rupture on the way to surgery. (and no, I didn`t wait forever and ever to have the surgery, I waited 3 days) and I was in hospital for a long long time - Had I been outside of the UK and Europe (and been in the US without expensive health insurance) I would have become bankrupt. It would have cost a few hundred thousand to fix me I reckon, but guess what? I had no bill when I left just a warm goodbye from the surgeons and the nurses who took care of me - they even paid for my relatives to park their cars to see me.
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    IAFYM Female 18-29
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    November 13, 2013 at 5:35 pm
    And I tell you what! Any British person would fight until their last breath for our NHS (socialised medicine), I know I would.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm
    And I tell you what! Any British person would fight until their last breath for our NHS (socialised medicine), I know I would.

    Hell yes!

    I wouldn`t be here without it, because my mother would have died before I was born.

    Even with all the "reforms" burdening it with extra costs, it`s still superb value for money and gives excellent treatment. I`ve had what I considered an unreasonable wait once, and that wasn`t actually unreasonable. I`d already been seen by a doctor (no wait for that) who correctly diagnosed nothing seriously wrong and correctly put me on a low priority setting for further investigation. I was worried anyway, so it seemed like too long to wait (and I paid for a private consultation, which was the delayed part of the process).
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    November 13, 2013 at 8:09 pm
    I`m not even going to comment on the video, because no matter what I say McG will try to bully me until I stop stating facts that he finds uncomfortable and undermines his world view.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    November 13, 2013 at 9:35 pm
    The VA actually IS socialized government-controlled medicine. You Brits and Cannucks can brag about how good your health care systems are, and I won`t even argue with you. It may be the greatest health care in the world. That`s not the point. The point is, this is how WE do socialized medicine in the USA, and this is what`s in store for all of us if we don`t slam the brakes on Obamacare.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    November 13, 2013 at 11:19 pm
    OldOllie- you may have a point there. But that still does not excuse someone trying to blame social healthcare. As you say- those of us who have it brag- and would man the barricades to keep it ( so get Cameron OUT) and that surely is the mark of a system?
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    sourkraut Male 40-49
    357 posts
    November 15, 2013 at 12:00 am
    This actually made me cry.

    Gonna see if I can find and help this woman.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    November 15, 2013 at 8:17 am
    I`d contact the program 60 Minutes and see if they wanted to do a profile of this victim. If they did, you can bet decent medical treatment would materialize in short order.

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