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48 Responses to The Bible Is A Cavalcade Of Immorality

  1. Profile photo of SweepOfDeath
    SweepOfDeath Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 9:40 am
    Link: The Bible Is A Cavalcade Of Immorality - Jesus f*cking Christ, pick up a science book.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 9:52 am
    People can complain, but faith in God is here to stay.
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:01 am
    747Pilot don`t spam the threads. Last warning. I put up the video so do not put it in a thread anymore.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:01 am
    Spam isn`t simply posting a link to a video on youtube called "how not to defend atheism", which is related to this post, not to mention somewhat hilarious. But it wouldn`t surprise me that it is embarrassing to some folks who likely can dish it out but can`t take it, lol!
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:02 am
    It is when you have posted iy multiple times in multiple threads.
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:03 am
    your video is up now go defend it. STOP the spamming. You did it as theguysmiley and you are doing it as 747. I am asking you to stop it.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:04 am
    once before, which was also removed doesn`t really constitute spam. Still, it does give weight to the fact it was embarrassing to some folks who likely can dish it out but can`t take it!!!
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:06 am
    747Pilot you really want to keep arguing? It was more than once trust me. Be happy your video is up now. go on that page.
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    MelCervini Female 50-59
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:07 am
    notice these radical athiests never attack the quran? why not? pussies!
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:14 am
    I love love love when scientific athiest folks know the bible back and forth, just so they can publicly shame the religious zealots.

    Poor God though, he probably didn`t say any of that poo. He sent Jesus down to preach some peace and love and these bitches gotta pipe up "But what about the gays?" Like bitch did I fu##in stutter?
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 10:31 am
    lol I love the "cricket" moment when the guy thinks oh crap! lol
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 11:12 am
    @MelCervini-"notice these radical athiests never attack the quran? why not? pussies!"

    Perhaps you are joking, but just in case you are not. The hosts were responding directly to a question posed by a caller. If the question posed was one that required critisim of the quran, it would have been critisized. Most of the highly vocal atheists such as Matt Dillahunty, Hitchens, Dawkins, Sam Harris, ect. all quite openly and harshly critisize the quran and it`s radical followers. They also all have been critical of the lack of critisim of these beliefs. It so happens that the caller was inquiring from a Christian viewpoint therefore the conversation was framed thusly. Take a few seconds to search for debates featuring any of these individuals, especially Sam Harris and Hitchens, and you will find plenty on Islam. They both have dedicated large potions of books to this subject as well.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 9, 2013 at 11:39 am
    @kitteh9: Nicely handled! You`re much more patient than I would have been :-)

    These guys are good! Although only one did most of the talking (I only watched half) they were sharp!
    The caller is an idiot. Please don`t judge all "religious people" by ONE idiot! k-thx.
    Dear God: Please send an Angel from Heaven to make the caller smarten up. k-thx.

    @jinxjinx34: In general? Muslims get a "Free Pass" from atheists.
    Why is that? They believe the LITERAL Old Testament, even more than the Jews! And certainly MUCH more so than Christians!

    I was watching a Muslim program (on local cable) which explained how Noah and the Flood was `explained BY the Koran`. Literally! People drowning and comparisons to Hurricane Katrina and everything!
    >>MOST Jews and Christians think the "flood story" is a metaphor, but ISLAM REQUIRES literal belief. Period! Or else.

    However: Jews and Christians don`t decree `fatwas`...
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    @5Cats-"In general? Muslims get a "Free Pass" from atheists."

    I strongly disagree. What leads you to believe that "most" atheists give any religious belief a "free pass"? How do you know what "most atheists" choose to critisize? As a nation with a Christian majority I expect that most of our domestic issues are being influenced by the Christians, therefore the majority of these types of conversations/critisisms will be directly related to these opposing veiws. How would Muslims believing in the Old Testament at all give them a pass with atheists? I don`t understand your reasoning. Harris and Hitchens both have said quite publicly that Islam is currently the biggest threat to the global community and it should be critisized vigorously. Hitchens condemed the media for not backing the Dutch cartoonist that made the caricature of Muhammad. Perhaps I haven`t figured out how to tap into the info source you have that allows us to know
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    5Cats Jews and Christians don`t do fatwas but they have done crusades,scomunications, burned people on the pubblic square. Jews have their own kind of fatwas too some info
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    November 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    I admittedly don`t know much about the Quran but from what I`ve heard, it has many of the same myths the Bible has, including the Jesus stories. Not surprising since they are all written in the Middle East so likely the same storytellers came across each other in their travels.
    Quran and the Bible comparison

    The muslims believe Jesus was a mortal prophet like Moses, which actually aligns with my belief that Jesus was really just a philosopher like Ghandi who gathered a following during his lifetime and his life mythology grew to epic proportions by his devoted followers.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    @jinxjinx34: Because they do? Many have admitted they fear a fatwa and refuse to "insult Islam".

    Just last night on BBC news: Talking about Arafat? They said "Arafat`s widow..." Singular.

    He had 3 wives, as is allowed under Islam. 3.

    These wives lived (together) in Paris on a budget of $300,000 a month, for 7+ years. After he died, they asked the PLO to continue paying that (I think it was refused, but IDK for sure).

    It may seem trivial? But it`s constant and consistent.

    "Youths Riot" in France or Sweden? ALL MUSLIMS! But that word is NEVER ONCE mentioned. That has been going on for years now.

    The Boston Bombers? Muslims. You`d hardly know it though from the MSM news...

    & etc. It`s just a `pattern` not a `conspiracy` although there are well-funded Muslim groups involved.

    Hi @piperfawn! :-) You not bored anymore? BE sure to look for my "20K Post" ...soon!
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 1:03 pm
    5Cats- I have already addressed to cowardice of the media when it comes to criticising Islam. I very much agree that this is an issue. What does this have to do with "Atheists in general"? You claim that "most atheists" give Islam a pass. Do you imply that the media is mostly atheist? I have already stated that the most vocal atheists of our time have been very vocal about the dangers of Islam. Are you that afraid to admit that you may have mis-spoke that you will attempt to muddy this discussion with irrelavance? Simply, explain to me how you can comfortably assert that most atheists give Muslims a free pass. Who are "most atheists"? How have you collected the data on this subject to form this conclusion? The media is NOT a hot bed of atheism, even the BBC.
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    llaa Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    Well, the Islam is Abrahamic, so if one insults the Christian bible, they are also mocking Islam.
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    llaa Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    Islam is a throwback to older yaweh worship (before corruption of catholic worship) with an ethnocentrict cult of personality thrown in....

    Much like Saul`s Christianity. When I studied church history it really sunk it in for me that American Christianity is nothing at all like biblical christianity, after many many many reformations it still cant figure out what its supposed to be... I mean snake healers make sense if you read the bible...
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    mesovortex Male 30-39
    458 posts
    November 9, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    I find it interesting that most people who talk poorly about atheists seem to have never met any.
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    pazerlenis Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm
    @jinxjinx34, "I have already stated that the most vocal atheists of our time have been very vocal about the dangers of Islam. ... Simply, explain to me how you can comfortably assert that most atheists give Muslims a free pass. Who are `most atheists`? How have you collected the data on this subject to form this conclusion?"

    Ok, that call out was awesome!

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2013 at 4:03 pm
    Jews and Christians don`t do fatwas but they have done crusades,scomunications, burned people on the pubblic square.

    Yes...*have* done.

    If I travel back in time 500 years, I`ll bear it in mind. But in the present, Islam is far more dangerous.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Poor God though, he probably didn`t say any of that poo. He sent Jesus down to preach some peace and love and these bitches gotta pipe up "But what about the gays?" Like bitch did I fu##in stutter?

    You`re making the same fundamental line of argument as the caller did after he stopped babbling about skin colour and starting babbling about the testaments, unless you believe in a fundamentally different religion that somehow lays claim to the same god.

    Do you dismiss the old testament of the Christian bible as false? Not out of date or in some unexplained and unexplainable different "context", but as completely false and not part of your religion at all, with the new testament as the first message from your god to humanity.

    If you do, then you can truthfully make your claim about your god and peace and love...but then you have to dismiss most of Christianity too because most of its fundamentals are in the old testament.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 9, 2013 at 4:39 pm
    People can complain, but faith in God is here to stay.

    Which god?

    For example, I`m sure that many ancient Romans thought that faith in their gods was here to stay. Where`s the temple to Iupiter Optimus Maximus in your city? Is your country`s mint protected and sanctified by being in a temple to Juno Moneta?

    That`s just one example, of course. There are many gods who are no longer believed in.

    The basic concept might endure, since people often worship their own ignorance and/or are fearful and desperate to believe that they`re important because they`re made by someone important or that they will be immortal in some form of afterlife or reincarnation. But belief in your god? Probably not here to stay.
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 4:45 pm
    pazerlenis- Lol. Thanks! How much better would the world be if people would weigh facts against their opinions before they spoke? Or, at least be more willing to admit that they may be mistaken.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 9, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    Yay. We are back to this. I`m a Christian, that one is an atheist, that one is an anti-theist. Yippie. We drove that sh|t in to the ground over the past 3 years. It was dry, and no one changed.

    Can we please go back to talking about how much 5Cats` posts suck?

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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
    183 posts
    November 9, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    @pazerlenis- "Exactly how are they more dangerous?"
    Imagine if the Christian Crusaders had modern weoponry. Imagine they could spread information, or mis-information with the efficiency we enjoy today. What if crusaders could traverse the globe with realative ease to carry out "God`s Will." It is not only a question of dangerous beliefs, but a matter of barbarism and modern technology. Muslim extremists may not have "more dangerous" motives, but they certainly have deadlier means.
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    h2oxy Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2013 at 8:37 pm
    @elkingo

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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2013 at 1:32 am
    "Can we please go back to talking about how much 5Cats` posts suck?"

    You know, one of the reasons i was so happy with Pmarren`s comeback is the thought of him dealing with five cats at once..
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 10, 2013 at 4:32 am
    LOL, Christians are so dumb.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    November 10, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    "@jinxjinx34, "I have already stated that the most vocal atheists of our time have been very vocal about the dangers of Islam. ... Simply, explain to me how you can comfortably assert that most atheists give Muslims a free pass. Who are `most atheists`? How have you collected the data on this subject to form this conclusion?"

    Ok, that call out was awesome!"

    Agreed, that was great, and of course 5Cats ran away with tail between his legs...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 9:53 am
    For as much as atheists preach about how they talk against the worst offender Islam how often do you see it? Especially here. You`ve become as preachy and annoying as what you talk against.
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 10:43 am
    @McGovern1981- What are you saying exactly? Do you mean to say that atheists "say" that they criticize Islam, but really don`t? Are you saying that we need to criticize Islam more in order to not sound "preachy"? Please clarify.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Do you mean to say that atheists "say" that they criticize Islam, but really don`t?

    Not anywhere near as much as Christian. I don`t ever recall seeing an atheist on Islam post here do you? It boils down most want to say they`re PC so only rant about what they can get away with.

    Islam, but really don`t? Are you saying that we need to criticize Islam more in order to not sound "preachy"?

    Nope you`ve become as preachy as them all already.
  36. Profile photo of jinxjinx34
    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 1:00 pm
    @McGovern1981- I have already addressed why Christianity becomes more of a target in these types of discussions. Domestically, Christian influence is percieved to be the most immediate and common threat to most of the secular community, therefore the conversations tend to be centered around Christianity. What do you mean by "get away with"? What threat do you posit that I fear in criticising Islam? "Preachy"? What exactly have I been preaching? You seem to be emotionally involved in this, but you don`t really know why.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    Domestically, Christian influence is percieved to be the most immediate and common threat to most of the secular community, therefore the conversations tend to be centered around Christianity.

    Riiiiggght that`s the biggest problem in the world right now those damn Christians fundies want to kill all the non here......

    "Preachy"? What exactly have I been preaching?

    How atheism is correct just like how fundies preach how their religion is correct. Neither can be proven.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 11, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    Riiiiggght that`s the biggest problem in the world right now

    There`s your first mistake (or deliberate misdirection) - you are replying to someone who explicitly stated "domestic", i.e. in the country in which they live. Not the whole world. People tend to post on pointless internet forums about their own experiences in their day to day lives, not about the whole world. So for most English-speaking people and especially people in the USA, Christianity is a much bigger issue than Islam.

    But just so you know, I have said and continue to say that I see Islam as the biggest current threat to human civilisation. Clear enough condemnation for you?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 11, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    How atheism is correct just like how fundies preach how their religion is correct. Neither can be proven.

    False equivalence and inaccurate definition. You`re not doing very well at all here, are you?

    Do you believe that planes are carried by magic undetectable pixies? Why not? You can`t prove that they`re not, so by your argument believing that planes are carried by magic undetectable pixies is as valid as not believing it.

    Do you understand the differences between these positions:

    1) Magic pixies carry planes and public money must be spent to promote that idea! Children must be taught it in schools and it must be in our courtrooms and in our laws and public money must be spent promoting Pixie Day!

    2) There is no evidence that magic pixies exist, so there`s no reason to believe that they do.

    3) Magic pixies do not exist!
  40. Profile photo of jinxjinx34
    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 11, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    @McGovern1981- You are muddying this conversation. Your original point was that you don`t see people criticize Islam as much as they do Christians. I never mention atheists or killing. I am speaking of religious influence in America coming from Christians and the secular communities response to said influence. You quoted my response, but it doesn`t appear that you understood it. Where in the context of my responses on this post have I "preached" any of MY ideals? Where do I mention that atheism is correct? Is it so difficult to stay on topic? You made the assertion that atheists fail to "talk against" Islam, but you either cannot or have not been able to substantiate this claim.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 12, 2013 at 11:23 am
    of course 5Cats ran away with tail between his legs...
    @WhoDat: WRONG! As usual.
    #1 I was saving up for my 20,000 post!
    #2 I simply didn`t care!

    However:
    @JinxJinx34: 80-90% of Journalism Students (and, therefor, journalists) in the USA are "left-of center". Both by self-report and survey.

    Most "leftists" are not `theists`: they`re atheists! Or agnostics or whatevers.

    Therefor: it`s only logical to conclude that most Journalists are MOSTLY NOT practicing, theistic Christians.

    Remember: the 20-10% non-leftists might also be non-theists too! It`s not "all or nothing".

    See?
    Plus it`s obvious, duh! Just LOOK at the MSM`s track record!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 11:58 am

    False equivalence and inaccurate definition. You`re not doing very well at all here, are you?

    Niether are you. There is no evidence one way or another of God that proves exactly nothing. Just like theories of how the universe came to be are just that theories because there is no way to prove them.

    1) Magic pixies carry planes and public money must be spent to promote that idea! Children must be taught it in schools and it must be in our courtrooms and in our laws and public money must be spent promoting Pixie Day!

    Riiight cause I was talking about forcing religion in schools way to put words in my mouth. see that sort of preaching thing I`m talking about now? It just as bad as them.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 11:59 am

    But just so you know, I have said and continue to say that I see Islam as the biggest current threat to human civilisation. Clear enough condemnation for you?

    Wow good for you yet to see post here doing it. Now if the Atheist preaching could collectively grow a pair and do something about it that`d be great! Of course most won`t touch it in a fallacy of remaining PC.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    Is it so difficult to stay on topic? You made the assertion that atheists fail to "talk against" Islam, but you either cannot or have not been able to substantiate this claim

    Lets see count the Atheist vs. Christian posts here.

    Now count the Atheist vs. Islam/Judaism/whateverism here.

    See a pattern yet?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm

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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    @5Cats- Lol. I applaud your effort. I would like to know where you got these stats from, as I was unable to track them down. I can however find plenty of good info, from Pew and Gallup, on % of atheists in the U.S. It is somewhere between 5 and 10% total US population that identifies as atheist. 11% of Liberals and 2% of Coservatives identify as atheist. Liberals make up about 21% of the US population. In order for your assertion to be correct, you would have to posit that 80-90% of journalists come from just 5-10% total who identify as atheists. Plus, I thought it was the Jews who ran the media. I kid.
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    jinxjinx34 Male 30-39
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    November 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    @McGovern1981- More annoying than evangelists or people who can`t admit defeat? How about people who still use The Matrix to create memes?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 13, 2013 at 6:10 am
    @McGovern1981- More annoying than evangelists or people who can`t admit defeat?

    You have me confused with someone who follows a religion. I`m not.

    How about people who still use The Matrix to create memes?

    DAAAWW did that hit a nerve of realized hypocrisy?

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