Rethink Vaccines? [Pic]

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 3 years ago in

Rethink stupidity is more like it.
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Male 243
There is a link between the 2 - Do Vaccines Cause Autism
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Male 2,850
@TJEx

Uh...pretty bold statement. Got evidence for that?
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Male 94
Anti-Vaccines people are the same ones who call man made global warming a fact and the people who deny it anti-science kooks. Without seeing that the idea of vaccines are the greatest thing science has ever done.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Don`t get vaccinated, it helps cull out the stupid from the gene pool.[/quote]

Unfortunately, that`s not the case for two reasons:

1) Most anti-vaccination campaigners have been vaccinated. It`s their children who they`re putting at the greatest risk of death.

2) Lack of vaccination puts *everyone* at risk by creating disease reservoirs. That increases the risk of mutation into something that people aren`t resistant to.
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Male 12,365
[quote]to all you people that think vaccines are safe, do all of us that dont a favour and get a flu shot, or ten.[/quote]

To all of you people who think that vaccines are more dangerous than the deadly pandemic diseases that otherwise occur, do humanity a favour and kill yourselves.

And yes, I am being serious. You`re putting human civilisation itself at risk. A major pandemic could bring down human civilisation. It`s a lot more fragile than it was in, for example, the late 1340s.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I bet they put that hydrogen oxide chemical in vaccines as well, the sneaky bastards.[/quote]

Wouldn`t hydrogen oxide be the chemical name for a molecule consisting of one atom of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen? I don`t think that exists.

You`re probably thinking of dihydrogen monoxide. Which is fatal by inhalation! Fatal, OMG! And the Global Conspiracy puts it in food to increase profits!
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Male 5,874
I bet they put that hydrogen oxide chemical in vaccines as well, the sneaky bastards.
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Male 14,334
[quote]VACCINES DONT WORK[/quote]
Ya look at all those cases of small pox everwhere....

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Male 1,468
well, it culls the stupid, AND it culls the healthy that hang out with the stupid. Whooping cough was on its way to getting eliminated completely in the US, but is now is making a major comeback b/c of those ppl.
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Female 1,540
There is a guy I know, just happens to be a chiropractor, who is arguing this case on FB right now. I told him it is irresponsible to not vaccinate your children and he says, "There is mercury in the vaccines 250 times over the EPA`s toxicity limit. Stop spreading lies."

I "walked away" from the conversation because I just don`t have the will to prevent nature taking its course. Don`t get vaccinated, it helps cull out the stupid from the gene pool.
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Female 592
The stupids have an opinion. Again, science is smarter than the average ignoramus. If vaccines don`t work, why is there no polio or typhus or measles? As I said......ignorance is not helping.
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Female 592
The stupids have an opinion. Again, science is smarter than the average ignoramus.
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Male 96
VACCINES DONT WORK
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Female 35
http://www.informatio nisbeautiful.n et/2011/is-the-hpv-vaccin e-safe-v-2-0/
Not vaccines broadly, but makes the point I want to; most of the side effects they use to pad out the danger list are psychological. The extreme ones come down to allergies, which go back to the peanut butter analogy below. vaccine > disease.
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Male 187
There is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that Elvis is still alive too...
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Male 1,015
@CaptKangaroo
"There is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that some vaccinations or combination of vaccinations are unhealthy for a statistically significant- and growing population."

There is also quite a bit of evidence that vaccinations have saved million of lives...
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Female 4,359
to all you people that think vaccines are safe, do all of us that dont a favour and get a flu shot, or ten.
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Male 182
@CaptKangaroo

"There is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that some vaccinations or combination of vaccinations are unhealthy for a statistically significant- and growing population."

Well, good thing anecdotal evidence isn`t real evidence.
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Male 334
captkangaroo, either of them may come to strike me down if i told anything that wasnt true.
i did miss yourt sarcasm, but my points still stand, i hear to often people thinking or even blaming autism on vaccins. and then in one go forgo regular medicine and therapies. There is no anecdotal evidence, there are only anecdotes, thats not the same
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Male 334
apk, feel free to point out my spelling mistakes, but i doubt i will worry to much about it. i am not sure what your primary language is, mine isn`t english and i think i am still doing ok
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Male 12,365
If anyone is still in two minds, I suggest spending a few minutes getting even the briefest speck of knowledge of what happened before vaccinations.

When was the last time you worried about dying from an epidemic? Or worried about all your children being killed at the same time by an epidemic? Or worried every day about your children reaching adulthood without being killed by a disease?

Really, seriously worried about those things *with good cause*? Because before vaccinations, you would worry about those things because you did have good cause to do so.

If more than a few people stop vaccinations, everyone is going to have to worry about those things again, worry about a multitude of deadly diseases that most people in developed countries today have never seen and probably never even heard of. They`ll be back, many people will die *and it will be your fault*.
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Female 1,803
"Best we let them not vaccinate in the hopes that they will die off."

If only that were the way it worked. Not vaccinating your kid puts everyone they come into contact with at risk and provides an opportunity for currently rare diseases to come back into common occurrence and probably even stronger and vaccine resistant.
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Male 12,365
[quote]If they are stupid enough to not protect their children with vaccinations, then they probably have already passed the stupid gene on to their kids. Best we let them not vaccinate in the hopes that they will die off.[/quote]

While I don`t care if anti-vaccination campaigners kill themselves with their own lies, I do care if they kill their children. But it goes further than that:

1) Stupidity is not necessarily inherited.
2) Not all of the campaigners are stupid. Some are gullible. Others are greedy (there`s a huge amount of money involved but it`s on their side, not the drug companies).
3) It`s not just their own children they`re putting at risk. Unsuppressed infectious diseases put other people at risk too, by creating a huge pool of disease and disease carriers. That will kill some people by overwhelming their reistance and it will kill more by increasing the chance for the germs to mutate enough to evade resistance.
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Male 38,501

If they are stupid enough to not protect their children with vaccinations, then they probably have already passed the stupid gene on to their kids. Best we let them not vaccinate in the hopes that they will die off.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Until I see a complete unbiased ingredients list none of that stuff touches my family[/quote]

Would you be willing to defend your position to the relatives of people killed by it?

That`s not hyperbole - lack of vaccination can kill other people. If it`s done on a large enough scale, it *will* kill other people.

There are only 2 diseases that have been eradicated and only 1 of those affects humans. All other diseases are merely suppressed. If there`s a large enough pool of unvaccinated people, they will break out again. There are a fair few fatal diseases currently suppressed (at least in some countries) by ongoing vaccination.

People in developed countries have complete disregard for most fatal infectious diseases...and we can only get away with that as long as at least almost everyone is vaccinated. Measles, for example, has killed millions of people. Without vaccinations, it will kill millions more.
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Male 2,766
@Modwain- Whatever god(s) I believe in or claim, huh? Okay, Ahau Chamahez or Sakarabru- your choice on which one you want to strike you down.
There is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that some vaccinations or combination of vaccinations are unhealthy for a statistically significant- and growing population.
However, and I find it difficult to understand, you missed the thrust of my comment, which was pure, unadulterated sarcasm. My sarcasm was twofold; It made fun of the extremist views of BOTH sides of this particular debate.
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Female 1,803
"@modwain people would listen to you more if you had spelling skills that surpassed those of a 5 year old."

Consider that this person is from Europe and english is possibly not their first language. Why don`t you try to write a detailed post in Swedish and get back to us.
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Male 183
@modwain people would listen to you more if you had spelling skills that surpassed those of a 5 year old.
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Male 183
@tsiemens enjoy the flu =)
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Male 514
Until I see a complete unbiased ingredients list none of that stuff touches my family
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Male 3,463
@rickwhite, do you blame peanut butter companies for people being allergic to peanuts?

Probably not.

Then why blame vaccines for people being allergic to vaccines?

I`m allergic to Amoxicillin, and when I got a shot of it when I was a small child, I ballooned up. It`s not Amoxicillin`s fault that I was allergic to it.

(Sorry if it`s a double post, the first disappeared)
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Male 334
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using this as an excuse to drop vaccinations is a blatent insult to both people with autism and people that get sick because their neighboor got sick for not vacinating and now he is taking you down with you.

For example, in the netherland bible belt peeps dont vacinate for measles, we had a break out not to long ago ( i think about several thousands but accurate numbers are not available cause some of these god fearing peeps also seem to fear teh doctors ) which could have caused people around them to get sick too,, vacination gives a strong resistance but doesnt always give a 100% protection, so one person refusing to be vacinated, though not a big deal, can cause others to be sick too.. and thanks for not vacinating yourself.....
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Male 334
(this is post two, down for post one, sorry) and do well.. I know of clients of mine where i can clearly state that one of their parrents is autistic too, eventhough that parrent may be universety scholed.
People with autism arent universely stupid or something like that. in my work i have had clients go to university. most of the people seem to go for the exact sciences, this seems to be easier for them, but i have had one client that went to the college of modern arts. and you dont get into that school easy, not over in the netherlands in any way.
Fact is, Autism only sais something on how our brain processes information, an autist with normal iq and eq can learn to live a normal enough life. not even 10% of the autists are rainman or the kid in sixth sence or what ever holywood version people care about. Fact is, people with autism are just people too
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Male 334
captkangaroo, being a sociotherapist and working in the field of autistism spectre disorders for more then 15 years, i can honestly swear to what ever god you feel inclined to and even claim that ligthning may strike me down, that there is no link what so ever between vaccinations and autism. More and more we learn of proof that this is an unfortunate genetic thing. More and more we learn that people may have a genetic disposition that may (or may not) trigger autism in their earlier years. It can get diagnozed fast and early but often, not unlike other problems of the brain, come to fruition during teen years.
Now that we know what to look for and how to reckognize it, more and more people get diagnozed with autism, its always been amongst us but most often not reckognized.
Hell, i have worked with people that got told that are bad people, socially misbehaving, behavior problems and got knows what. but once they got a good therapy, could learn to live with thier autism and d
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Male 1,920
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Male 906
Andrew155 this is from tumblr
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Male 1,243
Why the anti vegan vibe? The poster didn`t even mention veganism, which BTW is a far superior diet to follow than the standard western diet. I do agree with the reply in all other aspects though.
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Male 151
UHmmm....
I`m not against vaccines... but I`m not FOR them, either.
Here`s something to consider:

My GF had a "numbness" in her hands. Tingles. Weirdness. Migraines. Got worse & worse over time. Symptoms very similar to MS. Friend in nursing school thought it might be MS. Doctors theorized it was MS. Went for an MRI, CAT Scan, saw a neurologist.
Deemed NOT MS. No brain issues. But the tingles...? The symptoms? Still here. Another MRI. Found a lesion on her spinal cord in her neck. NOT an MS-type lesion. After high-dose steroids for 3 days & few weeks to recover, another MRI & consultation with the Neurologist. My GF travels - A LOT - to far away places & less developed nations. Got a few vaccinations in the past couple years. Unbeknownst to the neurologist. The Neurologist (one of the very best in Toronto) suggested it might be a reaction to a vaccine. Has seen this before. Vaccine was the common culprit.
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Male 2,578
That said, all these internet `clicktivists` really really bug me.
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Male 2,578
This is reddit, right? There always seems to be a self-proclaimed expert on-hand there.
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Male 2,766
Vaccines only cause autism in a small percent of the population; And that small percent are otherwise immune to the mind-control aspects of the vaccines, or are allergic to the esp/gps chips that are implanted.
But hey, ban cigarettes, large sugary drinks while yer at it... Big ol bunch of nanny stares.
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Male 1,341
My parents didn`t believe in vaccinations, therefore, I never got any. I survived just fine, doctor free for 19 years. Then I joined the Army. They wanted my shot records and refused to believe I didn`t have any at first. Once I got to basic, they shot me full of everything in the books...

That being said though, my kids do receive their vaccinations.
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Male 14,334

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Female 7,867
Perfect- and I have also bookmarked that. Refusal to vaccinate is child neglect.. Measles is a killer.
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Male 4,746
Nice to see some sanity in all of the craziness.
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Female 8,044
Link: Rethink Vaccines? [Pic] [Rate Link] - Rethink stupidity is more like it.
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