Obamacare Navigators - Coach Applicants To Lie

Submitted by: SweepOfDeath 3 years ago in

Project Veritas records conversations of ""navigators"" instructing applicants to lie about income & falsify statements
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Male 10,855
@5Cats

True enough, but ACORN did start out as a legitimate charity and community outreach organization as opposed to a slush fund. Of course things change when tax money come into play.
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Male 38,438
@Cajun247: Interesting! That might explain one of the videos, but there were a LOT of them.

ACORN was just another "slush fund" pool for crooked politicians to launder crooked money. Both US parties use them to avoid the law(s).

Nothing new, except that ACORN got caught!

Also interesting is that it`s still dragging through the courts. Lawyers and other parasites, eh?
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Male 10,855
[quote">Did HE say that or did the people on camera come up with that excuse later?[/quote">

The latter. Look dude I`m not saying ACORN was a well run ship (in fact it was quite the opposite), but the charges of embezzlement were mostly bogus.
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Male 1,692
@5Cats - 3 out of 20 (=15%) government workers are African Americans and one out of five blacks (=20%) hold government jobs. If they over represent its by a small margin a little over 1%.

The other point is the supposed "fraud" is not grand larceny. The veritas operative states that he has no w2 forms at all but is employed as a janitor making $15k/year and a side job (no amount is mentioned in the recording). The worker advises the operative not to state their undeclared income onto their ACA application if they havent declared their other income, since their premiums will be more expensive, by how much I have no idea. If the man is making $15k a year means that he wouldnt have a premium under medicare? We don`t know what type of plan he was receiving help signing up for...
At 1:20, it looks like there is a new sheriff in town and he`s short white queef and surrounded by cowgirls?! What the hell is this video trying to say other than black people reverse
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Male 7,948
llaa-"Why does he mostly record the dark skinned ones making the egregious comments?"

Have you considered that it`s possibly he is just showing the ones making the egregious comments?
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Male 38,438
@Cajun247: Eh? News to me! Did HE say that or did the people on camera come up with that excuse later?

[quote]...but still only about 20% of the blacks work in government making up only 15% of government employees.[/quote]
@llaa: Which is it? 20% or 15%?
Do 20% of "all Black people" work for the (State, Fed or other) US Government? THAT would be amazing!
Don`t Blacks make up 13.6% of the US population? (says Wiki) That would mean at 15% they`re OVER represented in Government, eh?

Not saying that`s BAD! Let me be clear about that!

Anyhow: why does the skin colour of the people involved matter?
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Male 1,692
Why does he mostly record the dark skinned ones making the egregious comments?
I know that the us government was one of the first to integrate blacks into the workforce with government employment, but still only about 20% of the blacks work in government making up only 15% of government employees.
My conclusion is that O`Keefe loves to bait the race card making him a non-reliable source that is playing old stereotypes and half-truths(just call em lies really) building a wedge between Americans.

Link to Statistics Source -2011 Numbers
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Female 4,086
i personally hope to follow my family`s medical history of living long and dying suddenly.
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Male 339
News Flash! Breaking News Alert!

Humans have been found to have the capability to lie and be underhanded!

Film at 11.
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Male 7,775

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Male 10,855
@CrakrJak and 5Cats

Gotta nitpick here. James O`Keefe didn`t lie, but in some videos he inadvertently managed to trick some of the subjects of them into thinking they were part of a low-brow prank. There were plenty of other things wrong with ACORN, they would eventually have to restructure.
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Male 2,073
I, too await the debunking predicted by the libsheep here.
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Male 2,073
Go ACORN!
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Male 38,438
Of course every lie, if found by the insurance company, is a valid reason to cancel your insurance should you ever actually need it...

@mesovortex: O`Keefe didn`t "lie" about anything! You got some proof that doesn`t come from an uber-liberal opinion blog?

@lauriloo: I await your LINK to MSNBC`s "debunking" this... it`s been in the news for a while now... take your time... any minute now, it will get "debunked" I SO sure...

@bliznik: It is indeed a problem with this particular employee. BUT as mentioned? The contract for this service was given to Obama supporting ACORN alumni... THAT is a problem too!

It`s just another example of how POORLY RUN the website is. $500,000,000+ poorly spent.

But don`t worry! The ACA will work FLAWLESSLY! Period! Obama said so!
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Male 17,512
A lot of these so called "navigators" are the same people that worked at ACORN, before they renamed themselves after their scandals.

mesovortex: James O`Keefe didn`t lie about ACORN or Planned Parenthood. Video doesn`t lie and he`s released full videos of all his investigations. You just can`t stand it when liberals get caught coaching people how to lie and get free services.
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Male 3,909
"I guess that means she IS encouraging him to lie, but is that really an Obamacare issue or an issue with this particular employee?"

Sounds like an issue with a particular employee or employees from Texas to me. The problem is that it`s not "newsworthy" in and of itself so they present it as if ALL the navigators nationwide are doing it to add fuel to the fire.
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Male 5,620
"Surprise surprise. *yawn*"

This.
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Male 418
POWER CORRUPTS!!
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Male 1,529
Wait, the guy comes in and tells the woman that he`s been defrauding the IRS for years, and asks her if he needs to come clean in order to get Healthcare, and she says that if he comes clean he will probably get in trouble and might get arrested. I guess that means she IS encouraging him to lie, but is that really an Obamacare issue or an issue with this particular employee?
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Male 38,792

Even MSNBC isn`t cheering so loudly about obomba-care. It`s a horrendous disaster. Any politician defending it will lose their next election.

But on the bright side, we have given a smile to the entire world as we screw up healthcare even more. In a world where every other civilized nation has managed to do it we can`t. That`s worth a chuckle for europe.
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Female 1,803
"But honestly, I tire of the whole Fox News this and MSNBC that"

The difference is that Fox News will report this as true and MSNBC will debunk it later the same day.
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Male 2,178
more republican/nazi party B.S. Next.
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Male 579
@mesovortex, sadly, what constitutes a "reliable" source these days anyway? The left has there version of reality and the right there version. I try to look for the truth somewhere in the middle so I`d say this has some kernel of truth. But honestly, I tire of the whole Fox News this and MSNBC that... ... seems like a giant waste to me.
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Male 1,950
Surprise surprise. *yawn*
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Male 458
This is the same James O`Keefe who lied about Acorn. This guy is not a reliable source.
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Male 938
Link: Obamacare Navigators - Coach Applicants To Lie [Rate Link] - Project Veritas records conversations of ``navigators`` instructing applicants to lie about income & falsify statements
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