Storming The Barricades In Washington DC [Pic+]

Submitted by: 5cats 3 years ago in

America"s veterans & citizens who dare visit the WW2 Memorial face arrest - at Obama"s orders.
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Male 15,832
[quote]How did this Guy ever get to be president??? [/quote]

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Male 37,762
@QueenZira: Because Democrats NEVER benefit from gerrymandering? is this what you`re claiming? If so? LOZ!

Again I repeat myself: 62% do NOT WANT IT "as is", with me so far?

Repubs: Want to change it.
Obama: Not even willing to talk about it. NO CHANGE.

You get it yet? WHO is representing the will of the MAJORITY here?
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Female 2,228
5cats, you`re talking about the House they couldn`t have held onto were it not for gerrymandering?

And we`ve been over this before too, changed =/= "repealed" so we can throw ourselves on the tender mercies of the insurance companies again.

Yeah but Teahadiis have 1 out of three levers of power in Washington so the people have spoken, obviously...
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Male 37,762
[quote]We had a big fight about policy in 2012 called the Election...[/quote]
@QueenZira: Oh, you mean the election where the Republicans controlled the House? THAT election?

Funny: The majority of Americans: 62% According to @Squrlz4`s link (in another thread) want it CHANGED.
But OBAMA says NO! NEVER!

So obviously, it`s the 38% MINORITY who are the "hostage takers" correct?? That would be... Obama and the Democrats!

Your own logic: You should use it sometimes...
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Male 54
How did this Guy ever get to be president??? Wake up America!
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Male 6,639
Squirlz4sale you are quite the wordsmith.
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Male 6,227
@OldOllie: With every passing day, I see your disposition becoming more gentle, sweet, and forgiving.
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Male 15,832
The Republicans have passed bills funding every single function of the federal government EXCEPT Obamacare. It`s the Democrats who have shut down the government because they can`t shove Obamacare down our throats, even though the vast majority of Americans DON`T WANT IT.

The thing is, they`re aren`t "shutting down the government" in any sense. That nasty little prick Obama is picking and choosing which parts to shut down to inflict as much pain and suffering on the American people as he possibly can. He`s punishing us because we voted for Republicans to represent us in congress. How else can you explain this:

"It`s a cheap way to deal with the situation," an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. "We`ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It`s disgusting."

Obama and Reed are loathsome, despicable, cold, heartless bastards. I hope they burn in hell.
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Male 10,855
ow do you expect to attract more people to the R [quote]message (assuming there is one) when that message is steeped in fear and paranoia and communicated through secret handshakes, smoke signals and French Klingon?[/quote]

Honestly I am a registered Republican, strictly for practical reasons. If firebreathing Neocons applied the RINO label against me I`d where it proudly, because then I`d actually want to cut the budget and not just alter programs to give themselves or their buddies bigger payouts. On the other hand, look who`s talking, that`s exactly how Obamacare was marketed, that`s how gun control is being marketed, that`s how cap and trade is being marketed. That`s what govt likes to do whenever it seeks to expand executive power or the welfare state. Doesn`t matter the political party, the premise is generally bull5h17.
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Male 3,909
"How many seats in the House or the Senate does the Tea Party hold?"

It doesn`t matter how many seats they actually hold. Believe it or not, the way the House works is actually quite simple for a minority of the members (tea party) to manipulate the system.

I came across this a few days ago, How 30 House Republicans Are Forcing The Obamacare Fight. It explains exactly what is going on in The House of Representatives.
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Female 2,228
Cajun you`re still living in that alternate universe. How do you expect to attract more people to the R message (assuming there is one) when that message is steeped in fear and paranoia and communicated through secret handshakes, smoke signals and French Klingon?

Not being part of the exchanges forces people to do as we`ve been doing, the emergency room for acute problems and better hope you have no longstanding issues. And of course everyone else will pay more for that uninsured visit and your resulting bankruptcy.

Progress is good my friend, go with the flow.
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Female 2,228
5cats the Tea party has a majority in the gerrymandered dysfunctional House, which is why congress is dysfunctional. We had a big fight about policy in 2012 called the Election, they lost and are now taking hostages to force a minoritarian Xmas list (and a pony!) on everyone else.

Taking hostages is not the way our Democracy works, it`s the last ditch effort of the pitifully desperate.
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Male 10,855
[quote]everything that says Congress is not exempt[/quote]

Yes they AREN`T supposed to be exempt, they are (illegally and in direct contradiction to what has been written) by the grace of EXECUTIVE FIAT which Obama isn`t supposed to do but did anyway. We HAVE been paying attention YOU HAVEN`T.
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Male 10,855
[quote]HOW have the Repubs broken the US Constitution?[/quote]

Just to be clear: Bush DID break the constitution, so did the GOP when they pushed for the idiotic PATRIOT Act. But that`s a previous administration, the GOP is not violating the constitution in this episode of political theater.
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Male 10,855
[quote]They have just about the best rate of insured citizens in any state[/quote]

I suggest you shouldn`t have too much confidence in those numbers. For one thing, generally people would continue to buy health regardless of whatever policy is in place. On the other hand the both Romneycare, and the way the survey was conducted, encouraged people to lie about their coverage status. Any gains in insured people due to Romneycare would be overstated at best. On the other hand being insured does not guarantee access, on top of which the problem IS a third party payer system. Expanding that, like Romneycare, would encourage MORE people to lean on someone else to pay for their healthcare.
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Male 37,762
@QueenZira: the Tea Party? Really?

#1 How many seats in the House or the Senate does the Tea Party hold?

#2 Since when do US Citizens NOT have a RIGHT to question their government & representatives?

#3 Polls =/= Policy. Facts > Opinions

@madest: So all those times the Democrats shut things down? THEY were terrorists too? Seriously man, just... wth? HOW have the Repubs broken the US Constitution? Show me or STFU.

I know for a fact Obama has broken it MANY TIMES and y`all seem to think that`s OK...
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Female 2,228
You folks are gonna have to do something about that reality proof bubble called conservative media too, if you`re ever going to be a national party again. (Fox, talk radio, Drudge) We`ve told you again and again, we`ve provided the links and everything that says Congress is not exempt, and they`re not. But you continue to believe the opposite, because everybody else is out to get you, you can only trust your own and why would you need anybody else really? You`ve confirmed it amongst yourselves, therefore it must be true. Kinda like Death Panels. Or killing Granny.

We need a sane opposition party in this country to make it work, and the fact that Rs are now essentially the party of colicky paste eating toddlers is not helping, to put it mildly. No wonder the rest of the world is gawping.
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Male 10,855
[quote]Republicans in the house are traitors who should be tried for sedition. We have have a constitution they took an oath to uphold.[/quote]

What about Obama repeatedly breaking the constitution like Bush did? What about Obama unilaterally altering HIS SIGNATURE LEGISLATION, to give Congress exemption from it? Or are you so partisan that you honestly believe it`s only politics when Republicans filibuster and not Democrats?
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Female 2,228
Cajun this is a working policy, it has worked in Mass. to stunning success. They have just about the best rate of insured citizens in any state, it worked so well in fact that Romney made it his signature accomplishment in the race for Mass. gov. Before it became automatically bad becuase Obama decided he liked it too.

Now Obama`s liberal base (HI! *waves enthusiastically*) wanted Single Payer and we were ignored (again) for 2 reasons, 1. Blue Dog conservadems in the class of `09 and 2. Dems don`t care for their base, in fact they go out of their way to Punch the Hippie every chance they get. Would I have preferred better? Yes. But this will do.

In the future that`s going to change. And really herein is the key difference between the parties, Reps cower before their base and Dems ignore theirs.
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Male 7,378
Republicans in the house are traitors who should be tried for sedition. We have have a constitution they took an oath to uphold.
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Male 10,855
It`s a two-way street Zira, I don`t doubt the Republicans are playing politics. But so is Obama, he had plenty of time on his hands, before Ted Kennedy`s death, to craft an ACTUAL WORKING POLICY. Not resurrect old dysfunctional Republican ideas (see Romneycare) to make an even more dysfunctional Frankenpolicy. As it stands both sides are entrenched in a mudslinging contest to energize their respective bases. No one`s really interested fixing problems.
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Male 14,332
You`ve now taken to calling a political party worse than religious fanatic murdering terrorists(like Obama) and expect the people to think it`s not the Democratic leader that are behaving like children throwing a tantrum too??
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Male 14,332
If John Stewart put his nose any further up Obamas ass you`d see him in his eyes.....

Problem is he hasn`t done anything good against those mullahs either.
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Female 2,228
"If it turns out that president Obama can make a deal with the most intransigent, hardline, unreasonable totalitarian mullahs in the world, but not with republicans, maybe he`s not the problem."-Jon Stewart

*Drops the mic*
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Male 14,332
If it was the big bad tea party that closed this then why doesn`t Obama make a statement and reopen it... That should tell you right there who closed it.
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Male 14,332
@QueenZira

ROFL!!! Have some more kool aid.... Our president will fund and negotiate with Al-Q in Syria and the muslim brotherhood but calls the tea partiers terrorists and says they`re holding a gun to our head.... Some leader he can`t even negotiate with political groups in his own country.
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Male 907
Exactly how does the government save money by erecting barriers and using security to block people from going to an open air monument?
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Female 2,228
The situation eloquently explained. With video.

This whole episode should be renamed, "GOP to investigate why their vote for a govt. shutdown produced a govt. shutdown."
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Female 2,228

This bulls#it isn`t even fooling the Fox crowd anymore.


Teahadists are limited by their own crazy base, if they don`t lockstep they`ll lose to an even crazier opponent in a primary. But by doing this they piss off the rest of the nation and lose all hope of winning at the national level ever again. No legislation was ever realistically in danger, they know it can`t be repealed, but the base doesn`t so this is just a paccy for them.
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Male 3,909
@5Cats - The story here is exaggerated. Police never threatened anyone, that`s all rumor and speculation by idiots who write conservative blogs funded by the Koch brothers.

This article that is linked in that blog in the sentence "Police threatened to arrest visiting veterans..." doesn`t even say anything about them being threatened, hahaha! In fact, this is what the article says about their visit, "Many elderly veterans, some in wheelchairs, broke through the barriers set up around the memorial, AS POLICE, PARK SERVICE EMPLOYEES, AND TOURISTS LOOKED ON." No one was threatened with arrest, it`s bullsh*t to get people like you, who will believe anything, all excited.


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Male 37,762
@sickandtired: You have it ass-backwards: The Repubs have PASSED SIX BILLS in the House to continue vital services, ALL have been blocked by the Dems in the Senate. And Obama vowed to VETO them anyhow!
Facts > fiction

@SmagBoy1: Read the article: the shutdown orders came DIRECTLY from the White House.
Obama has had 3 years to avoid this and chose NOT TO.

[quote]@5CATS there`s a pretty significant different in what happened and facts.[/quote]
@normalfreak2: Links or STFU...

@SmagBoy1: Why not change defence spending? It`s already been cut time after time.
ObamaCare = NEW SPENDING that FEW WANT and DOESN`T EVEN WORK!
Get it? The debt is spiraling out of control and Obama`s cure? SPEND MORE MONEY!!!
Few want it.
It`s broken
We have to pass ObamaCare to see what it is...
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Male 528
nothin` says freedom like a barrier

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Male 4,431
CrakrJak, those polls are bullpoo. Sure, 57% are against "Obamacare". The Republicans and FOXNews have done a great job there. But, when asked, 2 in 3 are in support of the individual measures that make up "Obamacare".

I`m not saying the ACA is a great plan. I`m not saying it shouldn`t be improved! Please, let`s do it! But not at the cost of shutting down the government. You want to change a law? Fine! Do it correctly (and Obama should, too!). Debate it, put it through committee, House and Senate vote, and get it changed. Doing it this way, as I say, is a Republican gambit, holding the government hostage. What`s next? Changing Clinton or Carter laws using this tactic?

Too, why the ACA? Why not change Defense spending? Why not restore taxes to what they were during Clinton (the economy was GREAT then, right?)? Why this? I`ll tell you: it`s a Republican drat job, that`s why. I`m not saying Dems are all great, but this one *is* the Republicans.
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Male 6,639
I generally despise Bill Maher but he`s right on one thing; Conservative Republicans live in an Alternate realty. I mean Old Ollie REALLY thinks Obama sits at his desk and orders the FBI/CIA to go shut down a park to "stick it to the Republicans" REALLY? Is this High School? who does stupid petty poo like that willfully? THe POTUS is an IVY league educated individual it would seem pretty silly for him to use power for that specific purpose. You know not like he has other pressing matters on his mind. To me thinking he`d do something like that is akin to a conspiracy theory. Complete Bullhit.

@5CATS there`s a pretty significant different in what happened and facts. You provided nothing but an opinion piece with a MISLEADING title from an incredibly biased source. Natural instinct is to write off that article and take it with a grain of salt. The Foundry is basically a tabloid political group spouting nonsense 95% of the time.
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Male 17,512
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Male 10,855
Obama could`ve shutdown the DEA, instead he shuts down the things most people don`t even complain about. Brinkmanship at its finest!
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Male 17,512
SmagBoy: Obama knows that his healthcare law is a total screw up, he`s exempted most of his corporate buddies, many unions and congress. Now he wants it`s implementation delayed a year, but not for the average citizen. He`s only delaying it for corporations so that much of it`s impact won`t be felt before the 2014 elections.

So since Obama has admitted by his own actions that his healthcare bill is a miserable failure, why won`t he allow it to be fixed?

57% of Americans DO NOT want Obamacare and less than 40% do want it. Harry Reid has been Obama`s de facto veto machine in the senate for over 3 years now. Reid hasn`t allowed an annual budget bill to even come up for a vote in the senate and he has even allowed them to go to the conference committee where there might be some compromise negotiated.

It`s Obama and Reid that are stonewalling this, not the Republicans.
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Male 4,431
spanz, the Dems didn`t shut down the government. At all. The group who shut down the government is the one who tied an already approved law to the funding of the government. A law. So, what, can Republicans say they don`t like a law that Clinton signed and hold the country hostage over that one? How far back can they go? Know what? If you want to change a law you introduce changes in committee, put the changes to a vote and then enact the new law. That`s how it`s done. When you shut down the government over an already approved law, you`re being a bunch of asshat drattards. And that doesn`t apply to Democrats in this situation. Only Republicans. And your lies won`t change that.
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Male 1,189
what the democrats are doing is totally asinine. Closing parks that are basically just open spaces needing nobody there to supervise, shutting down web cams like at the national zoo that require no human work, things like that. They are just pissed, and acting like babies. Hope this goes on for another week or two.....dying to see what chicken poo stuff the dems pull next
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Male 77
What the republicans have done is f`king inexcusable. They`re blocking the budget solely on the basis of their objection to `Obamacare` - nothing more. You`re so desperate to destroy it, you`d plunge your country into ruin to do so. Kinda makes you monstrous, a-moral pricks of the highest order.

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Male 5,874
If the government has been shut down, who printed the posters?
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Male 15,832
Update: I was right, those were feds blocking the entrance to the inn. If I were the sheriff of that county, I`d bust their sorry asses for felony armed criminal action and ask the judge to keep their guns if they make bail.
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Male 37,762
@WhoDat: And that makes this story false? NOPE!

@djwajda: True! And more! There`s an organization that gives free rides to vets (especially disabled ones) to visit National Parks and Monuments! Since they schedule well in advance? This FAKE lockout would mean hundreds of disappointed veterans.

The park is open 24/7/365 and is OFTEN unstaffed. Until Obama ordered it closed!

The "Parkies" secured the barricades with heavier wire now... not nice at all.

@Afugy: It`s called "Liberal Logic" eh? If Obama says it`s OK? Then it is! So what if it`s explicitly ILLEGAL under current law? Obama is above all human laws...

@normalfreak2: Does your Mammy know she raised a troll?

@Gerry1: The orders came directly from the White House, it`s an undisputed fact.

The WW1 Memorial has ONE single "barricade" with a note attached, same thing should apply to the WW2 one as well...
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Male 15,832
CaptKangaroo, I seriously doubt that those were STATE troopers blocking that business. More likely they were federal park rangers. If I were the business owner, I would call the local sheriff and have him come out and arrest those goons.
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Male 15,832
Gerry, Obama actually did order that this monument be closed. It would cost the government not one single penny to leave it open, but Obama spent EXTRA money to set up barricades and post guards just because he`s a nasty little prick.

He has even closed or attempted to close state parks and privately owned businesses. A park ranger has actually said he received orders to make people as miserable as he can.

Mark Levin said that if one of Obama`s goons so much as lays a finger on a WWII vet, he will flood the mall with half a million people. I think he could do it.

This isn`t about a lack of funds for these facilities. Obama is spending MORE money to close them that it would cost to leave them open. It`s about Obama and Reid punishing the American people for having the temerity to have voted for Republicans to represent them in congress.

They are both loathsome, despicable pieces of putrid dog $#!+ who should both burn in hell.
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Male 38,468

Nice take on that "On Obama`s Orders" `cause that`s what he does...sit at a desk and yell into the phone "Arrest that one! AND that one! No, the other one you idiot!"

The shutdown is because Dems & Reps can`t make a budget. It is CONGRESS who writes the budget not the President. POTUS just gets to tweak it a little and take credit for a good one while dodging blame for a bad one.

Biased caption is Biased.
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Male 17,512
"who is there (working) to stop them?"

Park police considered "essential" to security.

Thing is the WWII memorial is on the National Mall, along with the Lincoln memorial and the Washington Memorial. It`s not clear if it`s even legal to close it, because it`s right out in the open.

They also just wired the barricades together, but people are vowing to remove them again tomorrow anyways. The park police are refusing to arrest anyone and I don`t blame them. They know this closure is a load of crap and don`t feel comfortable arresting 80 and 90 year old WWII vets at their own memorial.
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Male 6,639
Hey the Koch brothers know what`s best for our nation! The foundry tells me so.
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Male 2,758
Here in North Carolina, there is a privately owned restaurant/hotel on leased federal land on the Blue Ridge Parkway. They were told that due to the shut down, they must empty the hotel and close down. State troopers were deployed to block the entrance to keep cars out- but if ya park your car on the side of the parkway- in the legally designated spots- you could WALK into the restaurant, as to block pedestrians would be illegal.
What a freaking bunch of moronic bureaucrats- drag them into the streets and hang every last one of them.
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Male 199
So let me get this strait, it`s closed because the government has no one able to watch over the parks in a shut down but the government has the people to keep people out.

My mind is so blown that I had to reword that 5 times and I`m still not sure.
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Male 883
@danagamer

These guys are old with the average age of a WW2 vet being around 90. For most it would have been the first and only time for them to visit.

So you tell me how important it was for them to go and see the monuments?

Let`s get this straight though, they did not `storm the gates`. The people who arranged this and brought the veterans there simply moved barricades for them to enter. The park police stood back and did nothing other than give advisement that the park was closed.

Of course it all could have been avoided if Obama and the boys(both dems and repubs) would get their heads out of their arses.
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Male 275
stupid republicans shutting down the govt.
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Male 3,909
The Foundry Blog, hahaha! I have two words for you, Koch Brothers.

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Male 1,084
who is there (working) to stop them?
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Male 701
why is it SO important they get in? Is it going anywhere soon?
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Male 37,762
Link: Storming The Barricades In Washington DC [Pic+] [Rate Link] - America`s veterans & citizens who dare visit the WW2 Memorial face arrest - at Obama`s orders.
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