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  1. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm
    Link: I LOVE The Tea Party - Man`s whole family is on medicaid while he runs on paltform of opposing government programs.
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    SethDog Male 18-29
    768 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 6:10 pm
    Oh wow, ANOTHER AMERICAN POLITICAL POST.... SNOOOZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 7:40 pm
    This is no more hypocritical then the politicians, democrats, that subsidized their healthcare 75%, so that they, and their staff, could avoid having to enroll in Obamacare themselves.

    No more hypocritical than Obama, who in 2006 criticized congress and GW Bush, for raising the debt ceiling.

    No more hypocritical than Harry Reid, who had blocked 13 House budget bills, over 3 years, by not allowing a vote on them, then blamed Republicans for the shutdown.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    October 17, 2013 at 7:58 pm
    This a$$hole is a special kind of stoopid!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 8:24 pm
    Let me see if I understand this. Liberal policies destroyed the economy to the point that he now has no choice but to turn to a government program to provide medical care for his family, so now he now has no right to oppose the liberal policies that put him and his family in that position.

    Does that about cover it?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 8:29 pm
    Crakr

    "subsidized their healthcare 75%, so that they, and their staff, could avoid having to enroll in Obamacare themselves."

    Why do you guys keep saying this? Do you understand what it means? Obamacare is not health insurance. You don`t "enroll in obamacare".

    It is just regulation on existing health insurance.

    People who have health insurance keep what they have.

    Congress has good insurance. A huge portion of which is paid for by their employer (the government). How is that any different than other people with health insurance paid for by their employer?

    I truly don`t understand how you can keep saying this.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 8:33 pm
    OldOllie

    "Let me see if I understand this. Liberal policies destroyed the economy to the point that he now has no choice but to turn to a government program to provide medical care for his family"

    Holy s.hit. Really? The economy went off a cliff while liberals were calling the shots? Liberals de-regulated banks and allowed the mortgage crisis? You can`t actually believe that right?

    I live in the same economy he does. I`m not on medicaid. My kids aren`t on medicaid. Are yours?

    You are so unbelievably full of s.hit. If I told you I had my whole family on medicaid you would call me every name in the book and condemn me a lazy good for nothing living off of other people`s hard work, but since this guy is on your "team" you defend him?
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    elkingo Male 30-39
    5436 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 8:54 pm
    CralrJak... this is hypocrisy to the maximum, and I am probably the most conservative person financially that will ever grace this site.

    He should pay his own freakin` way.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    October 17, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    Also... he adopted 8 kids?! He can`t support the 2 that are his own, but hey, why not, the gubment will pay for em! Hell, he don`t like that the gubment pays for em, but cashing those checks sure is easy at the bank!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm
    Collett attempted to defend his hypocrisy
    Nooo, not "biased" at all @HolyGod! It`s 100% fair and balanced!
    It gives equal time to the leftist side AND the liberal side! Equality!

    From his reply: ...here are a few government programs and policies that I oppose because they do not conform to the proper role of government, yet I participate in them: I am against marriage licenses, but I still got one to get married.

    So he OBEYS THE LAW and he`s a hypocrite? But if he BROKE the law? He`d be both a hypocrite AND in jail!

    Win -Win for the left!

    Hey @HolyGod: Should he get all the money he saves taxpayers by home schooling his kids paid back to him?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    People who have health insurance keep what they have.

    @HolyGod: This is a lie. Plain and simple.

    Over 800,000 policies in New Jersey ALONE were cancelled because they no longer meet the requirements of the ACA. ALL those folks now have until Jan.1 to get NEW ACA approved policies which will:
    a) Cost less? With better coverage?
    b) Cost more? With worse coverage?

    Hint: it`s not `a`...

    Also: MILLIONS MORE have already lost their employment-provided insurance because of ACA.

    You`re just repeating that lie, over and over again.

    Liberals de-regulated banks and allowed the mortgage crisis?

    Those would be two separate events, but the "Housing Bubble Crisis" was ENTIRELY Clinton`s "love child".

    @elkingo: Just because I believe the highway speed limit should be 50 MPH? It doesn`t make me a hypocrite to drive the posted, legal limit, yes?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 17, 2013 at 10:35 pm
    5Cats

    "Nooo, not "biased" at all @HolyGod! It`s 100% fair and balanced! "

    First off it is hypocritical, plain and simple. There is no "other side". Not every issue has two reasonable sides. It isn`t biased to call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

    "So he OBEYS THE LAW and he`s a hypocrite? But if he BROKE the law? He`d be both a hypocrite AND in jail! "

    He isn`t a hypocrite for obeying the law and nobody said he was. He is a hypocrite for actively using something he publicly rails against.

    "Should he get all the money he saves taxpayers by home schooling his kids paid back to him?"

    That is retarded.

    1. Most public schooling is paid out of property tax. I`m guessing he doesn`t own his home or pay property tax with 8 kids on welfare.

    2. Do I get my tax money for fire stations back because my house didn`t catch on fire? F.ucking retarded question. WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
    1745 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:38 pm
    This reads like an Onion article. But to be fair, we`re all guilty of this to one degree or another. Just dig deep into your own lives and I`m sure you`ll find something. For example, I am adamantly opposed to debt and will never buy anything on credit. "If I can`t pay for it, I can`t buy it" is my general rule. That has worked well for me, kept me grounded from the clenches of "stuff" and provided modest/steady growth of personal wealth. BUT at the same time, I admit that I broke down and got a mortgage for a house. It pains me, yes but the system is so rigged with everyone playing along that both rent and home prices are wayyyy inflated. It was basically pick your poison and I went against my principle. Does that make me a hypocrite?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm
    You cannot necessarily "keep your Doctor" wither. Even Obama himself has admitted this...

    Ha! I got the dreaded "Blue Screen Of Death" and when I restored? My typing was still here! :-)
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm
    5Cats

    "Over 800,000 policies in New Jersey ALONE were cancelled because they no longer meet the requirements of the ACA."

    No. They were not cancelled. They will just change slightly to meet the minimum standards required under the law.

    "Cost more? With worse coverage?"

    What on earth makes you say worse coverage? The only reasons those plans are going away is because they don`t offer the minimum coverage requirements.

    "MILLIONS MORE have already lost their employment-provided insurance because of ACA."

    No. They have lost it because of greedy businesses f.ucking over their employees for higher profit.

    "Those would be two separate events"

    That are COMPLETELY tied together. Without the bank deregulation mortgages wouldn`t have been bundled together and traded back and forth and speculated against like stocks.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 10:57 pm
    There is no "other side".

    How VERY LIBERAL of you!

    Not every issue has two reasonable sides. It isn`t biased to call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

    Can I quote you on that? Can I expect you to speak up on my behalf when the IAB Liberal Brigade DEMANDS I "consider both sides" to an entirely one-sided situation?

    And when I explain that I ALREADY HAVE considered and rejected it? They say "You didn`t consider it enough or you`d agree with US!"
    :rolleyes:

    @paperduck: So you`ve done just what this fellow did: accepted reality even though you`d like to change it. In both cases it`s "economic reality" but various other kinds work as well.

    Unless you`re @HolyGod...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 11:29 pm
    "No. They were not cancelled. [email protected]"

    YES THEY WERE Says the news!

    "...had to discontinue certain (insurance) plans, create new plans, and increase premiums..."

    Says the Insurance Companies themselves! And oh yes! The `new plans` cost more!

    I have more links if you don`t believe that one... takes a few seconds on Bing, eh?

    `scrap` `discontinue` `forced to change plans` `no longer exist`

    "in compliance with the Affordable Care Act"

    SPIN THAT!
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
    1983 posts
    October 17, 2013 at 11:46 pm
    The fact that most conservatives can say/do things that are blatant hypocrisy without the slightest hint of irony or shame just proves the incredibly low IQ it takes to be a neorepublican.

    I do so miss the Barry Goldwater level of republicanism. You know, when they were actually educated AND cared about Americans citizens and not just themselves.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 12:02 am
    5Cats

    "SPIN THAT!"

    I don`t need to. Your link is actually the same article I originally read. The plans are changing because they don`t offer the minimum amount of coverage.

    Plans change all the time. Every year my insurance sends me a letter about changes to my insurance.

    They will probably cost more money but it is because they offer a higher level of coverage.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 5:14 am
    The plans are changing because they don`t offer the minimum amount of coverage.

    See THIS is the reason why it`s hard for people to get insurance, it`s also why we don`t have choices or transparency. It`s because government mandates a minimum just to have insurance. If you don`t want prescription drug coverage then that should be your choice
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2013 at 6:51 am
    Is anyone still surprised when a Tea Party asshat is revealed to be a two-faced sack of poo?

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 9:58 am
    Caijun247

    "It`s because government mandates a minimum just to have insurance. If you don`t want prescription drug coverage then that should be your choice"

    Part of me totally agrees with you. I haven`t gotten a prescription or seen a doctor in 7 years. All I have ever had is bare bones catastrophic insurance. I think there should absolutely be a bare bones option for young, healthy people.

    On the other hand I read an article that the reason there was a minimum level of coverage set even for people who don`t need it is so that the insurance companies could make back some of the money they will lose by being forced to accept people with pre-existing conditions at the same price as everyone else. That makes sense to me.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 10:04 am
    @sleepy

    DO you really want to get into hypocrisy with politics and politicians cause it by far not exclusive to one group....

    It`s really unending.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 10:05 am
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 10:37 am
    McGovern1981

    You do know there is a difference between changing your position and actively doing something that directly contradicts your position right?

    I used to vote more republican. Des that make me a hypocrite because I vote more democrat now? NO.

    However if I said I liked democrats better and i fund raised for democrats and I told other people to vote democrat while I voted republican, THAT would be hypocritical. Understand?

    You`re welcome.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 10:43 am
    McGovern

    I vote Republican because I`m Pro-Life....

    Except when it comes to the death penalty, war, people starving to death, people dying from lack of healthcare, stand your ground laws, assassinations, drone strikes....

    Works pretty good the other way too huh? Having a certain opinion on one issue doesn`t neccessarily mean it is the same on every issue. Don`t be simplistic.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 10:55 am
    I find it funny that this has become a partisan issue.

    I would post it and call out a hypocrite this blatant if it was a democrat running on a clean up the environment platform that owned a company that had a horrible pollution record.

    Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Can`t we call it out no matter who it is? Why does it have to move to red team vs. blue team. F.uck this guy. Have the ability to say "f.uck this guy" even if he happens to vote for the same party you do.

    I could give you list of people on the left I can`t stand. It`s ok.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 10:59 am
    @HolyGod

    I think you missed the part where I said....
    DO you really want to get into hypocrisy with politics and politicians cause it by far not exclusive to one group....
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 11:00 am
    assassinations, drone strikes....

    Oh boy do you really want to touch on that??
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 11:40 am
    McGovern

    "Oh boy do you really want to touch on that??"

    You mean because Obama is doing that?

    Most democrats are against it. I am.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 11:44 am
    Mcgovern

    BTW, that obama graphic is really nicely done. That is shocking. Usually right wing political images are ATROCIOUS since all the artists and designers are on the left.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 11:50 am
    On the other hand I read an article that the reason there was a minimum level of coverage set even for people who don`t need it is so that the insurance companies could make back some of the money they will lose by being forced to accept people with pre-existing conditions at the same price as everyone else.

    So in other words, as it stands now Obamacare IS a cash handout to insurance companies. Why not just have Medicaid and Medicare hand out money and let them choose a plan? That`s what Paul Ryan proposed.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 12:29 pm
    Cajun

    "So in other words, as it stands now Obamacare IS a cash handout to insurance companies. Why not just have Medicaid and Medicare hand out money and let them choose a plan? That`s what Paul Ryan proposed."

    No it was to balance out the loss they faced giving insurance to the "uninsurable", NOT increase their profits. If anything it is a handout to people who previously couldn`t get healthcare.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    @HolyGod: So 800,000 people in ONE STATE lost their current policies directly because of the ACA... but that STILL counts as "keeping their current plan" in your books?

    Riiiight.

    Sorry bro: You`ve officially become a "Liberal Troll" (for this and your self-admitted trolling on another thread).

    What part of that article says they "keep their current health insurance"? Like Obama said? And YOU said?

    And -you- accuse -me- of "not admitting things"??

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    5Cats

    "but that STILL counts as "keeping their current plan" in your books?"

    I never said that. I said they keep what they have. If you have aetna you keep aetna. If you have blue cross you keep blue cross. Plans adjust slightly but only to INCREASE your coverage. Plans change all the time, even before the ACA.

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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2013 at 1:13 pm
    Republican, conservative dick cheese asshats lost this thing big time. The nation is on to you, you wankers. Keep taking away people`s rights in the name white male Christianity and it`ll eventually get you in a world of hurt. This is only the beginning.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    I would post it and call out a hypocrite this blatant if it was a democrat running on a clean up the environment platform that owned a company that had a horrible pollution record.

    Ever take a look at what Al Gore lives in and what was that band tour he did ya that helped lower emissions.

    Usually right wing political images are ATROCIOUS since all the artists and designers are on the left.

    SO now it`s all teachers, professors, scientist, designers and artists follow your political belives and everyone who doesn`t hold no skill or talent? Isn`t that kind of the behavior you love to criticize the other side of? Politics here has pretty much devolved into Party A"You`re stupid head!" Party B"Nuh uh you`re a stupid head!" Party A" Nuh uh our parties all geniuses!" Party B"Nope we`re the geniuses!"
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    You can keep your healthcare plan - B.Obama

    Over and over again. He NEVER says what you`ve just said. Keep your PROVIDER? Nope, not what Obama said. Not once.

    "Let me repeat this: Nothing in our plan (the ACA) requires you to change what you have (current healthcare plan)". -B.Obama.

    So the only question remains: Are you "spinning" or "trolling" because there`s no other polite explanation for your position.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    5Cats

    ""Let me repeat this: Nothing in our plan (the ACA) requires you to change what you have (current healthcare plan)". -B.Obama."

    Yep. Obviously that isn`t the case. Was it always the case? The ACA was written and rewritten dozens of times during the period to get it passed by congress.

    Wasn`t that speech at the very beginning? Were the minimum coverage mandates in there at the time or were they added later?

    Dunno.

    Either case, that statement is no longer correct.

    My argument was more against you saying they would lose their coverage and have to apply through the marketplace. THAT IS NOT TRUE, even according to the article you sourced.

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6740 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    McGovern

    "SO now it`s all teachers, professors, scientist, designers and artists follow your political belives and everyone who doesn`t hold no skill or talent? Isn`t that kind of the behavior you love to criticize the other side of?"

    There are lots of skills and talents that I associate more with the right. Certainly businessmen, financial people, etc.

    I`m a graphic artist. I freelance and contract regularly. I`ve worked with dozens of agencies, I know hundreds of designers. I can`t think of a single one that has ever expressed being a conservative.

    I mean come on, it isn`t really a discussion, a majority of people in academia, the sciences, and the arts are liberal. Do you really disagree? I`m not bragging, I`m just stating facts.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 6:54 pm
    No it was to balance out the loss they faced giving insurance to the "uninsurable", NOT increase their profits. If anything it is a handout to people who previously couldn`t get healthcare.

    The fact that people are TAXED if they don`t have health still doesn`t make it any less of a cash handout to insurance companies.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32794 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 10:21 pm
    "...against you saying they would lose their coverage..."
    Why are you "AGAINST" my saying what is true?

    `...and have to apply through the marketplace."
    WHEN did I say that? Quotes please.

    They can apply through ObamaCare OR THE REGULAR methods = but that`s MOOT! They lost their policies, you said they didn`t, I am correct.

    You claimed Obama said something he never, ever said. Wrong again!

    Nice try at changing the subject, but you`re still "dead wrong" on both counts even if you refuse to admit it.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    October 18, 2013 at 11:25 pm
    Liberals de-regulated banks and allowed the mortgage crisis? You can`t actually believe that right?
    No, liberals REGULATED banks and CAUSED the mortgage crisis. It`s called CRADA. Liberal regulations FORCED banks to make loans to people they knew could not repay them, but liberals also gave the banks an out: just sell the worthless loans to Fanny and Freddy, take the money, and do it again. Then F&F bundled up all the worthless paper and sold it to Wall St. investors as "government-backed mortgage securities."

    Then when Wall St. found out about the fraud, they started trying to unload them on unsuspecting private investors, but it all collapsed before they could dump them all.

    Bush tried to stop it, but Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, protected F&F and keep the scam going till it collapsed.

    Millions of houses went into foreclosure, the housing bubble burst, and the economy collapsed, thanks ENTIRELY to Democrat policies.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
    578 posts
    October 21, 2013 at 7:46 am
    The vast majority of tea party types like myself are for responsible reasonable smaller government, not to simply dump the lot. But thanks for pointing out what the Tea Party is not.

    Unrelated but in response to comments, I am conservative Christian and I have a degree in IT and Art and I play several instruments and played in alt-rock and punk bands in my younger days. What am I try trying to say you ask? Stop your stereotyping! I think once you get past the anger and lashing out you`ll find there is a lot in common among people of all backgrounds.

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