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  1. Profile photo of SweepOfDeath
    SweepOfDeath Male 18-29
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    October 1, 2013 at 6:36 pm
    Link: Feminist Double Standard - She should just make him a sandwich.
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    redofluke1 Male 18-29
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    October 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm
    He-Man`s physic is based off of queer esthetics pushed by influential members of society for over 500 years, after the revival of Aristotelian love at the beginning of the renaissance. A good example of people like this is Thomas Eakins. So, its not really a double standard if its not a esthetic that woman find attractive. Not to mention there`s only like one chick on He-Man and like 20 other burly dudes wrestling lol.
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    Darkalen Male 40-49
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    October 1, 2013 at 7:10 pm
    *nods*
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    October 1, 2013 at 8:20 pm
    Where is the double standard? You think feminists are ok with He-Man`s portrayal of masculinity? You don`t understand feminism. You are a tool.
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    Jake_Justus Male 50-59
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    October 1, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    In a world of disease, natural disasters, violent crime and war, cartoon proportions are nothing to get excited about ...

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    El_Chinche Male 18-29
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    October 1, 2013 at 8:48 pm

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    El_Chinche Male 18-29
    546 posts
    October 1, 2013 at 8:56 pm
    He-Man is an example of male wish fulfillment, a power trip. You want male objectification? Imagine all your favorite action movies starred this guy.


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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 1, 2013 at 9:10 pm
    Ancient Greeks were the first to distort human forms (proportions) in art to achieve the "perfect" figure... it used to be subtle, but obviously it`s not anymore...

    @unmercyfuldu: Um, we understand "modern feminism" ALL TOO well!
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    Tupinambis Male 18-29
    568 posts
    October 1, 2013 at 9:12 pm
    It`s all bullpoo anyways.
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    LionHeart-72 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    October 1, 2013 at 10:04 pm
    Not necessarily a double standard, however we do it to each other:

    I`ll provide a pic of... myself.... for example.

    ^_^
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    Zismo Male 18-29
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    October 1, 2013 at 10:37 pm
    Most boys can grow up to look like He-man; all we have to do is hit the gym. Most of us choose not to, it`s our choice, we are in control ;)
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    October 1, 2013 at 10:43 pm
    It`s all bullpoo anyways.
  13. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 1, 2013 at 10:44 pm
    unmercyfuldu: Feminism is women being tools toward men. If a guy wants to be nice and open a door, or buy dinner, it`s seen by some feminists as some form of predation.

    Sorry gals, but just because a guy wants to buy you a cup of coffee, tea or a bottle of beer doesn`t mean he wants to jump your bones. Most of us do have brains and have learned to get to know a woman first.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 1:49 am
    @CrakrJak

    why the should i pay for her coffee if we just want to talk? she works too, she pays too.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 5:07 am
    MrOrange: To be nice, to show appreciation, to show you aren`t a penniless bum and, not the least of which, to get a conversation started out on the right foot.

    This may surprise you to learn but women and men are different, and we each have built-in attributes we look for in a mate. One of those attributes, that women are looking for in men, is stability, another is wealth. Showing that you can afford to buy her coffee, nonchalantly, is an indication to her that you aren`t parsimonious.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2013 at 6:26 am
    I could be wrong here, but I think the views on feminism depend on your age. For me and the guys here in my generation, we saw women get their rights. We saw them take on executive jobs and become equal members of society. For us, we don`t get the sudden uprise. Then I started thinking about how woman are portrayed in hip hop culture. Then I understood. It`s the young adult females that are standing up against the way they are perceived by other young adult males. The "Make him a sandwich" statement made by the OP shines a great big spotlight on it.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    October 2, 2013 at 6:28 am
    And to the OP, I know the statement was a joke, but it made me think about the way hip hop culture portrays women. Something that, not surprisingly, women are standing up against.
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    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 6:35 am
    He Man is a power fantasy invented by men, boys look up to him and enjoy the fantasy. I`ve never heard of anyone destroying themselves to be He Man.

    Barbie is also just a toy, and I hated her when I was little because she was kinda dumb. Transformers and Power Rangers is where it was at.
  19. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 6:48 am
    @Patchouly
    Thats part of it for sure. Objectification is part of the problem, slut shaming, there are a lot of issues.

    I mostly fight against this gross new trend that is going on where a woman is shamed for being raped. It sounds ludicrous to even say the words together, but rape culture is a thing, and it`s getting worse. It somehow becomes the woman`s fault for being too tempting or out too late.

    I know that it`s a minority of men who act like that, but the size of the minority should not be growing. Not when it`s so extreme that we fear for our lives when we walk alone. No human should be afraid to have to be assaulted in such a manner. But it is an unfortunate reality.
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    sparki1980 Male 30-39
    329 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 8:39 am
    Double standard argument over..
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    Terysan Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2013 at 9:15 am
    @5cats It wasnt always subtle.
    But yea, the ancient Greeks were the first to be able to portray the human body realisticaly, yet they decided to try and improve it in order to create the perfect "heroic body".
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 9:46 am
    @Gauddith

    I`ve never heard of anyone destroying themselves to be He Man.


    Societal pressures exist that drive young men to use steroids. I don`t see how this in not analogous to women starving themselves as a result of societal pressures.

    Regarding "rape culture", I have never heard any blame the victim for being raped. I have heard people blame the victim for willfully being in a risky situation. The perpetrator is still fully responsible for the rape; they are two different actions.

    If I walk into a construction site without a helmet and someone purposefully drops a hammer on my head, it is their fault for dropping the hammer on my head. However, I`m at fault for not making good decisions.
  23. Profile photo of Smoothjc1
    Smoothjc1 Male 50-59
    260 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 9:53 am
    @ Gauddith " I`ve never heard of anyone destroying themselves to be He Man. "
    Don`t see many body building competitions do you ? Some of those guys look disgusting.
  24. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:02 am
    @HumanAction

    People who strive to be like plastic dolls or cartoon characters are insecure about more than their bodies, there is a deeper problem there.

    And gfys. Don`t even pretend like I am making bad decisions when I have to work late and on my way home three men follow me yelling disgusting things at me and making comments about rape. That is in no way acceptable, it scares the hell out of me. This is the what you don`t understand. I have to live my life, I should not have to plan for disgusting creeps following me, I should not have to call for a ride when I need to get home after a late shift, and I should not have to worry about my drinks when I go out with friends. But I do. I have to worry about them because our populace is sick, and we aren`t treating it the right way. Because people like you are saying I shouldn`t have put myself in that situation in the first place.

    Way to be.
  25. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:13 am
    Fine because you guys seem to have SKIMMED my initial post, let me rephrase what I said, "Barbie is a just a toy" means we should not pull our standards of beauty from plastic or T.V. if a male thinks that He Man is attractive, then he is flat out wrong. He Man is gross, I don`t want to hang out with him. What he is, however is a power fantasy. He is so manly and AWESOME, he embodies everything women hate in men, but that make men feel good. Strength, charisma, a sword and a tiger. Yes boys see that and think, "I want that." But most of them grow out of the fantasy like most girls grow out of the fantasy of being Barbie.

    Body image is not Feminisms focus, but it comes up because we are a shallow species. It is an issue because a lot of people need a way to instill confidence in themselves, and it helps them. Just like a guy might need to come to terms with his own body. Body standards are unfair all around. Different people handle it differently.
  26. Profile photo of Oystah
    Oystah Female 40-49
    4032 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:25 am
    I loved my Barbie(s) and I am completely disappointed to discover that life is not about shopping for pretty clothes and shoes, driving in pink convertibles and being tall and thin and blonde and perfect. Pretty good fantasy if you ask me. I think women just don`t like to admit it.
  27. Profile photo of Stormith
    Stormith Female 18-29
    543 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:27 am
    I think any intelligent feminist realizes that all gender stereotypes are wrong and promote unhealthy physical and mental habits and processes.
  28. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:27 am
    @Gauddith

    That is in no way acceptable
    I agree - but it DOES happen. There is no use in pretending it doesn`t simply because it shouldn`t.

    Because people like you are saying I shouldn`t have put myself in that situation in the first place.
    You are responsible for putting yourself in that situation. How can you not be? You made several choices to go to work, to work late, and to walk home. That`s not saying you made irrational or unreasonable choices. That is saying that you are responsible for being there. If I choose to go get a coffee and get shot on the way - by no "fault" of my own - I am still responsible for being there. It was a "bad" decision to go for coffee.

    Also, please reference the word "willfully" in my comment; it seems as if you missed it.
  29. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:34 am
    @Gauddith

    Because people like you are saying I shouldn`t have put myself in that situation in the first place.
    This is not what I`m saying. I am merely pointing out that you are responsible for being in that place and that time. In other words, you are partially responsible for being in that situation.

    This is completely different from saying that you are at fault for being verbally assaulted. The people performing the action (verbally assaulting you) are at fault for that.

    He is so manly and AWESOME, he embodies everything women hate in men, but that make men feel good.
    Holy crap - you`re insane. Either that or you know nothing about men. Most of the bodybuilders I`ve met either think it is attractive to be that big, or, they are obsessed with it - akin to anorexia; it is a compulsion for them. It has absolutely nothing to do with power - as you claim.
  30. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:39 am
    @HumanAction

    No, no no no no no no
    Nyet
    Non
    Iie
    Keine

    I`m sorry you are placing responsibility on someone who is just trying to live their life. That really disappoints me. I am not willfully putting my self in danger. I am living, there is no reason I should be accountable for being there. I`m certain you don`t fully understand what you`re getting at, but it`s pretty far off. I`m pretty sure you don`t actually think that the person being assaulted is at fault, but you need to not argue something like this. It makes you look ridiculous.

    If you do think the victim should be taking responsibility for their "being at the wrong place at the wrong time" then you should probably start seeing a therapist. I`m pretty worried for you. :c
  31. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:43 am
    @Gauddith

    See, the stupidity here is that you seem to think we can simply tell young men to not rape women and - tada! - no more rape.

    In reality, men and women both need to take steps to prevent rapes from happening. Is that fair? No, and that sucks. It happens though so we should take reasonable steps to prevent it.

    It is reasonable to tell a woman in India not to climb into a car with five random men for a ride to the airport.
    It is reasonable to tell a woman not to leave her drink unattended at a party or bar.
    It is reasonable to tell a woman not to get blackout drunk at a frat house.

    Should we need to do these things? No. That doesn`t change that we need to do these things. From a woman`s standpoint, failing to do these things is foolish and is likely to put her in a bad situation.
  32. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:48 am
    @Gauddith

    This post is merely to make fun of your attempts to insult me. =)

    I`m sorry
    You should be. You fail to take any responsibility for your actions.

    That really disappoints me.
    Tough sh*t, sweetheart. (<--- Notice purposeful chauvinistic insert)

    certain you don`t fully understand what you`re getting at
    How does this make any sense?

    I`m pretty sure you don`t actually think that the person being assaulted is at fault
    Wow! Is that because I blatantly stated so earlier? Congratulations.

    It makes you look ridiculous.
    Well now that`s just rude.

    should be taking responsibility
    "Should be taking responsibility" and "is responsible" are two separate things.

    I`m pretty worried for you.
    You`re too sweet. =)
  33. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:51 am
    No I don`t think we should start just telling young men to "Not Rape" women. I think we should find out why anyone would think such an action is acceptable and then figure out how to combat the behavior.

    I should, as I have stated before, not have to live in fear of my own safety, but reality is that I do, and that is seriously in no way a good thing.

    I should not be judged by how many times I have had sex, I should not be viewed as a prize, I should not be told I am a liar because I put on makeup. These are things I do because I want to, and if someone doesn`t like to do these things, or has had WAY more sex than me, who the hell am I to judge. You don`t understand the foundation of feminism, it`s not about women wanting to just be the same as men. It`s about women wanting to not be judged for being themselves, whoever that person may be.
  34. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:58 am
    And you know what, I feel like it should be the same for men, men shouldn`t be judged for being themselves, but because of the fear of majority we all temper ourselves into something we are not. God forbid women have a group of people wanting to break that and ignore the guidelines.

    Human rights, that is what it`s about. And guess what? My rights are being attacked when I am forcefully assaulted. So yes, we should be doing something about it. I do take precautions to not be raped and you know what, I`m tired of that having to be a thing. And you should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that I should even have to.

    Show a little restraint and have some god damned dignity.
  35. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 10:58 am
    @Gauddith

    I think we should find out why anyone would think such an action is acceptable and then figure out how to combat the behavior.
    OK - let`s clarify this point right here. We both think that women shouldn`t have to live a certain way due to a fear of rape. You think women don`t have any responsibility to take reasonable measures to lower their risk of getting raped - I do.

    So I go to the beach - right? - and there`s this sign that says "Danger: Sharks" but I`m all like "nah bro, I shouldn`t have to stay out of the water because of sharks" and I jump in. Not surprisingly, I get eaten by a shark.

    Your logic: We need to do something about these sharks.
    My logic: We should try to keep the sharks away from the beach; also, we shouldn`t swim when there are sharks in the water.

    Yea... I`m going to stick with my logic.
  36. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:01 am
    @Gauddith

    I`m tired of that having to be a thing
    Oohhhhh..... Now I get it! You think Nirvana is for this world. You think there is a magical solution that - tada! - no more rapes.

    I`m sorry, but there isn`t. Therefore, the next best option is to take reasonable measures to prevent it.
  37. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:06 am
    Only I don`t need to go into the shark filled water, but I do need to live my life.

    I`m not following your logic, it seems like you are missing a key point here. The point being, we all take precautions to not get raped. Do you understand that? That we have to do that? I have to wake up and think about how I`m going to get home because I work a late shift and I don`t want to get raped that night. Even if the chances of me being raped are low, that is still a thing I have to take into consideration. Every day.

    This isn`t an activity I`m doing because I want to, this isn`t swimming. I need to put myself out there because I want to eat, I want to be able to have a place to live. You`re arguing with me. And yes I am mad about this. This isn`t a choice I can make, this is the reality of my life. It should not be.
  38. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:16 am
    @HumanAction

    I`m sorry I had faith that we could have a better world. I`m sorry I thought better of your gender. Forgive me for thinking men could be held accountable for their own perversions. I`m sure that the responsibility of reducing rapes was too much for men to handle. I suppose women should be the ones to take precautions to not get raped, god forbid men seek help and try to better themselves.
  39. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:27 am
    @Gauddith

    OK - let`s just speak plainly since you are apparently going to nitpick any analogy I come up with.

    You think a young lady who goes to a party at a frathouse where she knows nobody and gets blackout drunk is not at all responsible for being in a situation that is likely to lead to her sexual assault.

    I think she is responsible for being there and for getting blackout drunk. I think the men who attack her are responsible for her rape. Therefore, I think she is partially responsible for the outcome.
  40. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:31 am
    @Gauddith

    I suppose women should be the ones to take precautions to not get raped, god forbid men seek help and try to better themselves.
    You`re obviously blinded by your emotional attachment to this discussion. I have clearly - and in several attempts - stated that BOTH men and women should take necessary steps to prevent a rape from occurring. I have absolutely no idea how, at this point, you could think that I mean anything else.

    Please see the following from my previous statements:

    "The perpetrator is still fully responsible for the rape"
    "The people performing the action (verbally assaulting you) are at fault for that"
    "men and women both need to take steps to prevent rapes from happening"
  41. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:46 am
    HumanAction: "You think a young lady who goes to a party at a frathouse where she knows nobody and gets blackout drunk is not at all responsible for being in a situation that is likely to lead to her sexual assault."

    Look, stop. This is one of those times you should know when to stop. I don`t care about your views on this. What I`ve said is that even when I am not doing things like this I fear being raped. I cannot walk home without that fear. When a man starts making cat calls or making lewd comments to his friend I shrink, I try to become invisible. This is the reality of my life.

    That girl who got raped in your hypothetical? She was guilty of having fun. You have made the boys at that party out to be monsters and she just "jumped" in the cage. That`s not the reality of the situation. Because the chance is she knew them, or had a friend with her. She might have been drugged by the boys, or tricked into drinking more than she intended.
  42. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:48 am
    "Don`t even pretend like I am making bad decisions when I have to work late and on my way home three men follow me yelling disgusting things at me and making comments about rape. That is in no way acceptable"

    you got it sweet, all you get ir rape, i get robbery, beatings, followed by death threats..
    safety isn`t a gender thing, i`m pretty sure the guy`s wo work late can tell you whats it`s liek to hop on a bus an sense smth nog wuite right, or walking down the street.. or etc etc..
    don`t get me wrong, rape sucks. but it`s a bit blind sighted to say that only women need to fear for their safety.
  43. Profile photo of thubanstar
    thubanstar Female 50-59
    822 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:49 am
    Yes, and there is NO equivalent of major Beauty Pageants for men. I don`t see a televised competition for attractive men age 21 to 26 in speedos showing "talent", do you?

    Women still live in a world that judges them MOSTLY on looks. Men do not. You can be bald and middle aged and still have a young girl on your arm and everyone thinks it`s fine. You`re a big success and have grabbed the brass ring, even with your comb-over and double chin.

    Cougars, on the other hand, had better be good looking, or people loose their poo over it.
  44. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:55 am
    Lies perpetrated by the group to make her feel like it was her fault, or to keep her from going to the authorities. She will spend the rest of her life hating herself and wanting to escape her own skin because of what she felt was her mistake, and someone like you would sit and agree with that? It was partly her fault because she was there. She should have known better.

    Well let me go to a different extreme for a moment. Someone gets drunk, and shoots one of his friends at the party, the person whom he shot was blackout drunk and passed out. He had no ability to defend himself, now he is dead. His fault for getting blackout drunk and then dying? Yes, you`ve already said so in one of your posts, he is partly responsible. Only the court won`t see it that way. Because he is not partly responsible. Most people agree with this. But a girl getting raped is quite often held partly responsible. And that is acceptable because she was being lusted after?

    No.
  45. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:55 am
    @thubanstar

    Why don`t you read the beauty myth by naomi wolf? it might suprise you to learn that judging women on their appearance is something set in motion and maintianed by .. women.

    but hey, your right, we don`t have to worry about our looks (yet, or do we?) just make sure we can provide right?
  46. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 11:59 am
    @gaudith

    if i walk into a certian part of town after dark..
    i won`t walk out again. Should i be held responsible for that? NO. is is stupid of me to go there after dark? duhh...

    we don`t live in an ideal world, and no matter what argument you use will change that. Do i think you`re right? absoF**kinglutly. does this change the fact that *you* need to take care of *you*? no, it doesn`t.
  47. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    October 2, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    I want to face the facts - it is clear to me that a rapist, much like a sociopath, is not the type to "seek help" for themselves by and large. Rapist tendencies should be (and I believe are) classified as a behavioral disorder, much like paedophilia. If multiple offenders were castrated instead of "rehabilitated" in prisons where they themselves would be subject to rape, maybe there wouldn`t be so many offenses. You`re both right.
  48. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    @Gauddith

    seeing as to what emotions this topic brings out in you, and refering to your real life situation. Is it possible for you to change work/ workhours? cuz this amount of stress doesn`t sound healthy?
    and if you can avoid it, please do so.
  49. Profile photo of Gauddith
    Gauddith Female 18-29
    231 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    This is where rape culture comes from. This inequality in the legal system. The group of rapists will get out of it. They will walk away and probably do it again. It`s a game to them, a sexual fantasy gone too far. Instead of trying to seek help, because of a serious problem they look for the next high. The reality is that the genders are different, and it`s accepting those differences and not taking advantage of one another. You should be sickened by your fellow man`s ability to perpetrate such acts of violation instead of trying to place the responsibility, even partly, on the victim.

    @MrOrange Excuse me, but that`s the absolute most twisted form of logic I have ever read. You do understand women face the same kind of crime as men, and also face the fear of rape right? You also understand that rape doesn`t just happen, women do fight it. Rape is a violent, disgusting act.
  50. Profile photo of Chaoskitty
    Chaoskitty Female 18-29
    449 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 12:10 pm
    Yep
  51. Profile photo of HumanAction
    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    @Gauddith

    What I`ve said is that even when I am not doing things like this I fear being raped.
    I get this. God, I get this. You keep saying it and I keep "getting" it. Say it some more and I`ll get it then too.

    That sucks. You shouldn`t have to. However, you always will have to; there is no solution. You will always be the physically weaker sex. We will always be the testosterone-driven, more aggressive sex.

    You`re being ultra-idealistic. Men will never stop raping women; this doesn`t mean that I, or any other specific man, supports or encourages rape. We abhor it; it could be our mothers, sisters, or even daughters. That doesn`t mean we can completely stop other men from trying to rape women.

    We can - and should - teach our boys to treat women with respect. We also should teach our daughters to take reasonable precautions to lower their risk of being raped.
  52. Profile photo of bdowner60
    bdowner60 Male 40-49
    593 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    Desperation at self victimization at its best!
  53. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 9:34 pm
    @gauddith

    I tried leveling it out for ya, i tried to offer you another viewpoint. right now i`m going to say the following: Keep making it your mantra, you seem to enjoy fixating on that thought. and i hope it brings you what you need.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    October 2, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    @gauddit

    i just thought of this, and i have a hunch it might do you good to hear and see it.
    Mad tv sketch
    it has some great insights and i found i very helpfull (i`m serious btw)
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    infantry0 Male 30-39
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