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Date: 09/09/13 01:56 PM

106 Responses to Zimmerman Detained In Domestic Gun Incident [Pic+]

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
    8044 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    Link: Zimmerman Detained In Domestic Gun Incident - After his wife filed for divorce last week, Zimmerman shows up with a gun at his father-in-law`s home making threats.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    I really really really really want to just clucking stop hearing about this guy. So can my comment be the last comment in this post about him? I mean seriously, we cannot obsess over this person any longer. It`s too much.

    Subject change:

    So how are you guys?
    Good day at work? Home? School?
    What`s the most interesting place you`ve traveled to?
    Have you ever tried to learn a foreign language?
    Did you like Zoolander?

    Please, don`t take the bait and talk about George Zimmerman. Please.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:08 pm
    For heaven`s sake.
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    1234 Male 30-39
    809 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:10 pm
    This guy doesn`t seem to like to obey the law. Seems like a loose cannon to me.
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    LikeIGiveASh Female 13-17
    443 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    He should have been arrested for murder in the first place, then he wouldn`t be terrorizing people now. IMHO.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:17 pm
    Noooooooo, it`s begun.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:20 pm
    =O.O= As if this whole bizarre chapter in American history couldn`t get any more bizarre. Wow.
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    Smutleybutt Male 18-29
    1377 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Does ANYONE think the wife deserves the money she is getting from his DONATED defense fund? No wonder he is threatening her.

    I would be extremely pissed if I had donated money and knew it was paying for her to live lavishly.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:22 pm

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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    Mmmm-hmmmm. That is all.
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    Modwain Male 40-49
    336 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    so, arrest him for something he didnt do so he cant do something wrong in the future Like? seriously?
    If he did this i am sure the law wil come on him like a ton of bricks but these are two different incidents, lets keep them that please
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
    3908 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm

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    ElectricEye Male 50-59
    2729 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    Seems he solves all his problems with a gun. Big man.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm
    I guess this guy only knows how one method of problem solving.

    Andrew155--What, you don`t want to hear about this guy when it`s not a chance for you to spout off about `reverse racism`?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    Oh, granted, there`s no doubt that this wouldn`t be an effing blip on the radar of a normal day, but, fact is, it does seem just we bit indicative of his demeanor. Punches (allegedly) his FIL in the nose `cause he`s pissed? Waves a gun around (allegedly) `cause he wants to show what a man he is? Granted, this is just a minor domestic, but, damn, look how easily someone could have gotten shot. Again.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
    2553 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    "Jesus Christ, Gerald!"
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    ElectricEye Male 50-59
    2729 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    No one got shot because he couldn`t claim "stand your ground".
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    Picture defenders tried to paint:

    Calm, responsible citizen turns to a gun as a last resort only to save his life from a ruthless thug hell-bent on mercilessly killing him with his bare hands.

    Reality:

    F.ucked that picture up pretty bad now huh?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    @LikeIGiveAsh: True, also that if he hadn`t been dragged through the "race baiter machine" this would NEVER make the national news!

    Seriously? THIS is the most important news item in the USA?

    Also: $4300 a MONTH? Holy Crow! I`d divorce anyone for that much cashola!

    3:50 - His gun was NOT returned. Eric Holder, the AG of the USA, personally intervened to keep it from being returned...
    The same Eric Holder who GAVE thousands of guns to Mexican Drug Lords... then lied under oath about it...
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    YOOOO-HOOOOOO! 5Cats! Where are you, you big ball of right-wing fluff? Time for you to weigh in on this topic.

    I predict an explosion of ALL-CAPS and quotation marks in the very near future.

    ~Squrlz sits back with a tub of popcorn~
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:43 pm
    ...it`s not a chance for you to spout off about `reverse racism`?

    @DrProfessor: Then how about:

    "If Zimmerman were WHITE? He`d never have gotten arrested for this! ONLY reason the cops hauled him in is because he`s LATINO!"

    How about `overt racism` :-) :-D ;-)
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    Okay, 5Cats, *that* one was good! You get bonus for that! :-)
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7738 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    Not to worry, you guys are fine with everyone running loose waving guns around.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    @Squrlz4: Crossposting = FUNNEH! :LoLz:

    All caps?
    Never... this... month... not... gave...

    Must be some sort of "Cryptic Cat Code"!!

    @SmagBoy1: Thanks! I simply cannot wait for the MSM to play the `race card` FOR Zimmerman!
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    Wait-wait-wait! Everyone CALM THE EFF DOWN. A new report has just aired saying his father-in-law was wearing a hoodie and holding a package of Skittles. So with that detail, I see no story.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    Squirlz4Sale

    You are missing the point. The iPad did not belong there. It was casing cars and apartments. Zimmerman is a hero and a shining example of responsible gun ownership. Guns for everyone!

    Multiple guns in fact. So if you lose one after killing a teenager you have a backup to properly threaten your wife with it.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm
    Point of information, in case anyone thinks I`m following some liberal playbook here: I actually AGREED WITH the Zimmerman verdict.

    What I think is beginning to emerge with this latest turn of events is that the Stand Your Ground laws make it difficult to convict unstable individuals who are not responsible gun owners who may have acted overzealously.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 3:03 pm
    Also, let the record show that this is the FIRST current events/political story that Ash has commented on (if I`m not mistaken).

    So please be nice to her. =^.^=
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    Seriously? Will the media please leave Mr Zimmerman alone already? He`s old news.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 3:23 pm
    Cajun247

    "Will the media please leave Mr Zimmerman alone already? He`s old news."

    No. I hope they continue to systematically destroy him.

    Perhaps that will make someone think next time before they go "out on patrol" with a gun.
    Perhaps that will make someone think next time that the 911 operator says stay in the car.
    Perhaps that will make someone think before they pull the trigger and kill a kid.

    The courts obviously aren`t a deterrent. Maybe the media can be.
  31. Profile photo of Crabes
    Crabes Male 30-39
    1285 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm
    i wish i`d care, maybe we should talk about something important instead ... like Miley twerking
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm
    I can`t believe we`re talking about this guy again.

    And no, HolyGod, it won`t. Even assuming that Zimmerman will be anyone near people`s minds in a comparative situation (which is a ridiculous idea), almost all violence is within the same race. So it won`t discourage any black people killing black people (half the violence in the nation), and any hispanics killing hispanics (probably as much as 1/4 of the violence), or whites killing whites (much of the rest). And it sure as hell won`t discourage black against white, black against hispanic, asian against hispanic, what have you.

    So that`s just really, really dumb analysis you got.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 4:42 pm
    Andrew155

    "So that`s just really, really dumb analysis you got."

    What you just said is f.ucking retarded.

    Who cares about race? Why do you have to make EVERYTHING about race?

    Some pussy cop wannabe killed an unarmed teenager because he couldn`t mind his own business and caught a beating for it.

    If you want to throw race all over it fine, but it has NOTHING to do with what I said.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36654 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    First she goes on tv and says he`s out of control then her dad claims GZ made threats... In a divorce you cannot take either party at their word. Bitches lie. And dads will lie for their little girls.

    Or he`s a douchebag, I don`t know. But I`m not taking this at face value, too many other motives going on.
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    llaa Male 30-39
    1664 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    I agree with Gerry.

    True Story

    My ex`s douchbag parents called the cops on me once when I told them to leave my house after a verbal disagreement and they were becoming physically hostile.

    Those douchbags told the 911 operator that I was in my house armed with a knife acting erratic.

    I was livid when I overheard the phone call, but I calmly waited outside a 30 feet away from the douchbags until the cops arrived with their guns drawn. After the cops realized I wasnt a threat, I explained the situation and the cops soon threatened to arrest the douchbag parents for a false report but I didnt press charges since I didnt want to upset my douchbag ex...

    Just saying, dont believe anything you hear and half of what you see; the cops that arrived were awesome.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
    2343 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
    opinions as to this kid-killers innocence or guilt aside, the media feeding frenzy and show trial can have a negative effect on people and relationships.
    That being said, is anyone really surprised that the free money these people solicited is not being used in a aboveboard and proper manner?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm
    Not to worry, you guys are fine with everyone running loose waving guns around.

    Said the guy that lives in a land that only has armed police for the royals......


    Now remember people what happened last time you decided this guys guilt before the EVIDENCE was presented in a court of law????
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    Gerry is most correct person here.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 8:28 pm
    @HolyGod: Facts? Please aquaint yourself with them:

    FACT: GZ was NOT "on patrol" he was driving to the grocery store.
    FACT: The 911 guys NEVER told GZ to "stay in the car".
    FACT: GZ did not have time "to think" because he`d be ambushed and assaulted.

    What you just said is f.ucking retarded.
    Welcome to the club @Andrew155! Join a LONG LIST of people @HolyGod verbally abuses here at IAB :-)

    Notice how he says NOTHING about who ACTUALLY "brought race into it": Martin, Sharpton, Obama...
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 8:38 pm
    HolyGod is just an angry person, I`ve come to accept this.

    And once again, what Gerry and llaa said basically are the main things we should highlight in something that we otherwise have no information on. Anything else and you`re talking out of your ahole *I`m looking at you HolyGod ;) *
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    5Cats

    "HolyGod: Facts? Please aquaint yourself with them: "

    1. The 911 operator very obviously tells him not to follow martin. Then the 911 operator tells him to go wait in front of the clubhouse to meet with police and Zimmerman says no, have them call me and I`ll tell them where I am. Had he followed EITHER of those directions Martin would still be alive. The transcripts are black and white and available several places. Go read them.

    2. I asked you VERY nicely to stop making comments to me. Stop trying to engage me. Pretend I don`t exist. Leave me alone. I have no interest in talking to you. How sad and pathetic are you? It was a very simple request.
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    incubus_inc Male 18-29
    977 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 9:23 pm
    F all this.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 9:24 pm
    Andrew155

    "HolyGod is just an angry person, I`ve come to accept this."

    Not at all. I just get sick of this bulls.hit racial spew from you. This has NOTHING to do with race to me. If it does to you that is fine, but don`t try to debate me with your prejudice bulls.hit.

    I don`t care if martin was black or white. I don`t care what zimmerman is. It doesn`t matter to me. All that matters to me is an armed man killed an unarmed kid and nothing happened.

    I was JUST as mad when it was black Roderick Scott killing white Christopher Cervini.

    You guys tried to make it seem like he had to kill martin otherwise martin was going to kill him. You made it seem like it was a last resort. I stated that maybe that was true but it seemed unlikely to me. This new incident makes it seems almost impossible now.

    I DON`T CARE WHAT RACE EITHER OF THEM ARE. I`m sorry for you that you do so much.
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    flying_ltj Male 18-29
    340 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 9:47 pm
    So I guess he`s trying to be the next Paris Hilton...?
  45. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
    @HolyGod: I simply and respectfully ask you to...

    STOP USING THE LETTER M!
    It offends me! And my religion too! That`s illegal in Canada you know!

    So STOP IT! No more "M" for you! Or I`ll call the cops!

    (Just as reasonable as YOU ORDERING ME TO STAY SILENT bro... same Shiite.)

    ...the 911 operator says stay in the car.
    Deal with reality. YOU said it, I disagree with your "fact", I am correct...

    BUT YOU STILL ARGUE!

    Not "my problem" bro, you`re the one with "a problem" or three...

    SWEARING at people over the internets? What is wrong with YOU? Find a mirror, look at it, figure it out on your own buddy.

    Do NOT EVER order me to do ANYTHING.

    Well, you can try! lolz! But I`ll tell you to shove it up your arse! Just like a told you right now!

    See? YOU can be stupid to your heart`s content! Tie your own rope, buddy-boy!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    Had he followed EITHER of those directions Martin would still be alive.
    WHAT? Zimmerman DID! He DID stop chasing Martin! He DID look for an address then walk back to his car!

    Martin was laying in AMBUSH by then!

    So you are... WRONG!

    Again! One would think you`d get tired of it... eventually... perhaps you`re a masochist? Being stupid "on purpose"? I don`t wish to "play those games" with you, just FYI. You DO NOT have consent.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:22 pm
    Well, how interesting; I`ll have to pay attention to this. Seems like *she* would stand to gain the most in this situation by claiming he waived a gun around but we shall see.

    This new incident makes it seems almost impossible now.
    Hold on. I distinctly remember you objecting to people using Martin`s history to "paint a picture" of his character. Your comments here seem to do the same to Zimmerman. That seems intellectually dishonest to me.

    PS - Long time, no argue; how`s it goin`?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:28 pm
    HG: "Had he followed EITHER of those directions Martin would still be alive."

    You don`t know that for a fact, you`re assuming TM wouldn`t have attacked GZ otherwise. GZ was walking back to his vehicle when TM attacked him, according to court testimony.

    Besides, If your going to play the "What if" game, "What if" TM had heeded his GF`s suggestion to run home? He`d be alive then as well, correct?

    Also, the only one person that used racist language, in the court testimony, was attributed to TM.

    What you fail to understand is that retreating is seen as weakness in thug culture, it`s why so many of these thugs get into trouble, they can`t retreat and "keep it real" at the same time.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:41 pm
    The more I read, the more it sounds like she made it up.

    "She later backed off from that statement, saying she never saw a gun despite what she told the 911 dispatcher."

    "Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell told CBS News officers did not see a gun when they arrived on scene."

    "He was later released without charges when his wife and father-in-law refused to press charges or give police a sworn statement."

    "No significant injuries were reported..."

    "On Aug. 28, she pleaded guilty to misdemeanor perjury and was sentenced to one year of probation."

    "Police said George Zimmerman volunteered the surveillance videos to investigators."

    "During the altercation, Zimmerman smashed his wife`s iPad."

    These are all from CBS, ABC, and CNN. I`m not saying that Zimmerman is an angel, but this sounds like some heavy embellishment. All parties have confirmed tha
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:45 pm
    ... continued -_- ...

    All parties involved have agreed that at no time was a firearm presented. While a firearm was in Zimmerman`s truck, he did not display it.

    Again, sounds like some *extra* details were thrown in by the missus. She later recanted much of her story and refused to give an official statement to police.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:48 pm
    "They can`t retreat and `keep it real` at the same time"

    LOL. Perhaps the most succinct description of the TM event.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 10:51 pm
    HumanAction - with a divorce looming (and I presume some money?), it doesn`t take a rocket scientist to make an educated guess that the wife, who was found guilty of perjury btw, might not be someone who can be trusted at their word. lololol
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    Zombify Male 18-29
    2 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    I feel like he really likes the media attention. Either that or he`s just trying to see how much he`s able to get away with.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 11:43 pm
    5Cats

    "Do NOT EVER order me to do ANYTHING.

    Well, you can try! lolz! But I`ll tell you to shove it up your arse! Just like a told you right now! "

    I didn`t order you. I asked you nicely. I have said it every way I know how. You single handedly ruin this site for me.

    I have no interest in conversing with you, yet you try to talk to me in each and every post I comment on like some sort of crazed virtual stalker. There are hundreds of active members on this site. I`m nicely asking you to leave me alone as you are the one person on here I cannot stand.

    I thought when we discussed this in depth on the post a couple weeks ago that we made a gentleman`s agreement to not talk to each other and i held up my end.

    I am simply baffled that you won`t stop talking to someone who has clearly and politely said they want nothing to do with you.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm
    His soon-to-be ex-wife is a fat lying sack of dog $#!+. It turned out that he didn`t even have a gun, so I think it`s pretty safe to say that everything else she said was a lie.

    I think this should be grounds to grant GZ the divorce without having to give her Jack Squat.
  56. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 9, 2013 at 11:59 pm
    Crakr

    "You don`t know that for a fact"

    Totally agree. I don`t.

    I just can`t fathom a scenario in which zimmerman simply walks back to his car and martin comes up and begins beating him to death unprovoked. That seems plausible to you?

    To me the only way this makes sense is zimmerman followed martin and martin out of anger or fear confronted him about it. Then zimmerman tried to be authoritative and it escalated on both parties until blows were struck. Then once the fight wasn`t going zimmerman`s way he took out his gun and fired.

    That is the only way I can see this going down according to basic human nature without one of the guys being a total psycho and I don`t think either one was.

    But you are ABSOLUTELY right that I don`t know what happened. Nor do you. Only one person on the planet does and since he is the only one who can give his side of the story of course it is going to make him look as innocent as possible.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:08 am
    HumanAction

    "I distinctly remember you objecting to people using Martin`s history to "paint a picture" of his character. Your comments here seem to do the same to Zimmerman. That seems intellectually dishonest to me."

    Well I would never want to be intellectually dishonest, so allow me to clarify.

    I stated that martin smoking weed, having gold teeth, and posting stupid things on twitter were not an indication of his capacity to kill a stranger with his bare hands basically unprovoked. I maintain that is accurate.

    Now I am stating that punching an old man in the face and threatening people with a gun IS an indication of being prone to aggression and violence.

    It is not that I`m saying previous acts do no correlate or predict behavior, just which acts qualify. Fair enough?

    "Long time, no argue; how`s it goin`? "

    Well, you?

    Good job on postponing your phoenix trip. It has been hot as hell.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:23 am
    Now I am stating that punching an old man in the face and threatening people with a gun IS an indication of being prone to aggression and violence.
    The police found that GZ didn`t even have a gun, and there`s no evidence that he punched her old man. Now they`ve backed down and aren`t pressing charges. On the other hand, at the trial every witness corroborated GZ`s version of events, and there wasn`t a single shred of evidence to contradict anything he said. Yet you still claim GZ is a liar, and now you are willing to take her story as gospel.

    Bigoted much?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5879 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 3:15 am
    Think how dull the news would be if there was no America.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 3:45 am
    @HolyGod

    With all due respect (which is little to none at this point), shut the f*ck up about the Zimmerman trial. We weren`t in the courtroom. We don`t have all the information available. Those in that courtroom did. And they found him innocent. That is how our system works.

    END

    OF

    F*CKING

    STORY.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 4:32 am
    HG: "I stated that martin smoking weed, having gold teeth, and posting stupid things on twitter were not an indication of his capacity to kill a stranger..."

    I believe the indications were self-evident that he was living the "thug life" and that his behavior, both in and out of school, was leading him down the path to destruction.

    What absolutely boggles my mind is that people, like you, would rather mollycoddle and excuse such behavior and blame the victim (in this case GZ).

    If we are to move forward as a productive society this "thug life" BS culture has to be suppressed and or eradicated. This lifestyle CANNOT become the norm or this country WILL go down the sh|thole.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 5:16 am
    hahahaha yeha he`s the real stable friendly family guy isn`t he.. hahahahahaha

    Up yours!
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 5:39 am
    It`s ridiculous that everything this guy ever does, no matter how unrelated, will come back to the Trayvon Martin case. A case where he was proven innocent based on the evidence, not on emotion.

    That being said; having seen his actions, and his wife`s actions since, I can say that he is an a$$hole, and she`s a bitch.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
    2553 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 6:06 am
    Heard on the radio, that the wife said she wasn`t sure if he even had a gun... no one saw a gun...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6158 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 7:52 am
    HolyGod-"Perhaps that will make someone think next time that the 911 operator says stay in the car."

    Again, 911 operators have no authority to instruct anyone to do anything. An individual is under no obligation to do anything a 911 operator says.

    HolyGod-"Perhaps that will make someone think before they pull the trigger and kill a kid."

    I`m sure that process was running through his head...you know, the head that TM was pounding repeatedly into the concrete...

    HolyGod-"If you want to throw race all over it fine,"

    Actually, THESE are who decided to `throw race all over it`:

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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 8:25 am
    HolyGod must really like having hernias over GZ.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 9:04 am
    @megrendel-
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    Doiknowyou Male 30-39
    988 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 9:12 am
    Haha at the people riding GZ`s d ick as if they`ll be getting something out of it
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 9:56 am
    Doiknow, it`s not as much fun as sucking some nice old Trayvon sausage, and taking a hot load on your face, or isn`t it?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5879 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 10:07 am
    Zzzzzzzzz.....
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 10:26 am
    BOOM! Words of Wisdom from Auburnjunky. You rock, man! I`m so glad you wound up in the middle of that Political Compass chart a while back. =^.^=
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 10:29 am
    McGrendal - HolyGod doesn`t understand that really the one and only thing that would`ve prevented the killing of TM is if TM decided to not go and assault GZ. This was the most basic and proximal cause of the event, not GZ going out to go look at a street sign. Not, it was the assault.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 10:48 am
    MeGrendel

    "Actually, THESE are who decided to `throw race all over it"

    I have children. When I catch one child hitting the other their excuse is "she / he hit me first". It doesn`t work for them, so it isn`t going to work for you.

    This isn`t a "team sport" and even if it was those guys wouldn`t be on my "team". I loathe jackson and sharpton more than basically anyone in politics. I still defend what Obama said because he was speaking to / for an entire race that felt slighted in this country. I personally think his speech after the verdict was the biggest factor in there not being riots or violence.

    I don`t care who made it racial first. It isn`t racial for me and I`m not going to debate racial bulls.hit.

    If other people making things racial bothers you then the appropriate thing is to ignore them, not do what they did and use them doing it first as an excuse.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 10:53 am
    Andrew155

    "HolyGod doesn`t understand that really the one and only thing that would`ve prevented the killing of TM is if TM decided to not go and assault GZ."

    1. The ONLY proof we have that martin threw the first punch is the story of the man accused of murder. Do we agree on that? For all we know martin called him a name and zimmerman jumped him first. Put two guys in a room with no witnesses and only one comes out alive I promise you EVERY single time that the one that walks out is gonna say the other guy hit him first and he was just defending himself.

    2. Another thing that would have prevented it is zimmerman not having a gun. Take a gun out of the equation and it is just two guys in a fight. Then when the cops, who are already on their way, show up they can both give their sides of the story and perhaps legal action is taken on the aggressor.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    September 10, 2013 at 10:59 am
    Crakr

    "I believe the indications were self-evident that he was living the "thug life" and that his behavior, both in and out of school, was leading him down the path to destruction."

    Maybe. He might have been the biggest little a.sshole ever. Perhaps he was headed for a life of crime. Or perhaps he was just a dumb teenager trying to act like a rapper. Perhaps he would have gotten his s.hit together and made something of himself.

    You sound just like an old man who judged the kids of the 70s and 80s for listening to heavy metal, growing their hair long, smoking weed, and ditching school. A lot of those "losers" are wearing suits and ties and sitting at desks right now.

    You really want to judge someone`s entire existence off of the dumb things they did in high school?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6158 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:02 pm
    HolyGod-" it isn`t going to work for you."

    This is not a `they did it first` argument. I pointed out the ONLY individuals that made this case about race.

    HolyGod-"I personally think his speech after the verdict was the biggest factor in there not being riots or violence."

    If anyone didn`t consider you delusional before, you just solved that.

    HolyGod-"I don`t care who made it racial first."

    They made it racial, PERIOD.
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    Doiknowyou Male 30-39
    988 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Fine Andrew155 stay on his d ick...geeze some people...
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    peakingo Male 30-39
    761 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    One thing to consider is the wife and father-in-law aren`t pressing charges.

    Which can mean two things:

    1-they respect him and forgive and don`t want his name dragged in the mud... again.

    2-His lawyer will pay them off so his name isn`t dragged in the mud... again.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    @ Doiknowyou and Andrew155: Since you two seem so preoccupied with the male anatomy, you might want to have a chat with Gerry1of1. He`s our resident penis expert. You`re welcome.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    MeGrendel

    "I pointed out the ONLY individuals that made this case about race."

    If you think those are the ONLY people that made this case about race then I would invite you to read the comments on ANY article that has to do with this situation on any website, including this one. Read andrew155`s comment from Monday, September 09, 2013 4:32:27 PM. LOTS of people try to make this about race.

    "If anyone didn`t consider you delusional before"

    Did you actually listen to his speech? Not the pundit talking points, but his actual speech? Read the transcript and tell me which part you have a problem with. He sympathizes as only someone who has ACTUALLY experienced it can, then he calls for peace. You don`t think that had any impact on black people in this country that were filled with rage after the verdict?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    HG: "A lot of those "losers" are wearing suits and ties and sitting at desks right now."

    And a whole lot more are in prison, on parole, still living with their moms or doing menial unskilled labor. The former "Nerds and "Geeks" are the ones that are wearing suits, running companies, hiring people and generally running the world.
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    Doiknowyou Male 30-39
    988 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    @Squrlz4Sale: I`ll take your word for it since eating nuts is where your name came from
  83. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm
    I asked you nicely.
    @HolyGod: And I have answered! No.
    BUT YOU KEEP "ASKING" = no longer "nice" Ok?
    A nicely asked question does NOT require re-asking! The answer is ACCEPTED, get it?

    Are you a 3 year old? Asking 100 times for a cookie despite being told no 99 times? Honestly!

    And what you are asking for is UTTERLY unreasonable! You are free to comment about me? But I am NOT ALLOWED to remark on your posts?
    F*CK DAT! FU-NQ!

    yet you try to talk to me in each and every post I comment on
    This is an absolute lie. WHY are YOU so obsessed? I couldn`t care less what you say OR when you say it!

    as you are the one person on here I cannot stand.
    = I bet you say that to ALL the boys!

    You`ve done your routine with 2-3 others in this thread alone!! Just me? I think NOT!
  84. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:00 pm
    we made a gentleman`s agreement to not talk to each other
    Are you delusional? I SAID NO! NEVER! I made it clear I do NOT agree to your outrageous demands, PERIOD.
    Seriously? You are nucking futs to think that.

    I am simply baffled that you won`t stop talking to someone who has clearly and politely said they want nothing to do with you.

    And I say the same to you: WHY do you keep talking to ME? I do not want it, so STFU already!

    Is all this just an elaborate `ruse` to avoid responsibility for being wrong about the 911 dispatcher telling GZ to "stay in the car" (I paraphrase, since I know how anal you are about these things)???

    Wouldn`t surprise me. Par for the course actually. The only IABer who changes subjects faster than you was @Baalthy! lolz! Perhaps @madest...

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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    @HolyGod

    It is not that I`m saying previous acts do no correlate or predict behavior, just which acts qualify. Fair enough?
    I see -_-. I s`pose that`s fair, if not nuanced. The wife and father retracted their stories and refused to give statements though. I haven`t seen any evidence that the father was actually hit other than his word - which I can`t take as more or less valid than Zimmerman`s word - too.

    The only thing I did see was that he smashed his wife`s iPad, which I think we can all agree is a d*ck move.

    Well, you?
    Not bad; it`s too hot for me here right now (high 80s, low 90s) so I probably would`ve melted in AZ.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    @HolyGod: I note that @Musuko42 makes an excellent point:

    The Judge and Jury have spoken! Unless you know something they do not? Accept it!

    Evidence in the courtroom > your speculations!

    "The only way I can imagine it..." = YOU are wrong, NOT the facts!

    You`ve spouted an IMMENSE amount of pure garbage in this thread which I am ignoring! Because I just don`t care! So there, happy now? I ignore you on a regular basis, you want me to comment every time I don`t comment about your stupidity?
    = WTH? Seriously.

    END

    OF

    F*CKING

    STORY.
  87. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    @Squrlz4: +1 = Zing!

    @Doiknowyou: +2 = ZING ZING!

    :-)
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    5Cats

    "And what you are asking for is UTTERLY unreasonable! You are free to comment about me? But I am NOT ALLOWED to remark on your posts?"

    Is english your second language? I don`t get how we can still be arguing over this. I said multiple times that I will stop talking to you or about you in ANY way.

    "I bet you say that to ALL the boys!
    You`ve done your routine with 2-3 others in this thread alone!! Just me? I think NOT!"

    I disagree with AJ, Crakr, and MeGrendel CONSTANTLY. However for the most part I enjoy debating with them. I can`t think of a single time I have asked any of them to stop talking to me. They can correct me if I`m wrong. It really is JUST you.
  89. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    5Cats

    "The Judge and Jury have spoken! Unless you know something they do not? Accept it!"

    1. I absolutely agree with the verdict. He never should have been charged with murder period. It was manslaughter in my opinion.

    2. You think juries get it right? Every time? You think OJ really was innocent? Come on. People second guess juries all the time.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 1:56 pm
    HumanAction

    "The wife and father retracted their stories and refused to give statements though. I haven`t seen any evidence that the father was actually hit other than his word - which I can`t take as more or less valid than Zimmerman`s word - too."

    Totally agree. I made my comments based on the story submitted. The story has now changed. I don`t know if that was because they lied the first time, or because they got paid off, or because it became leverage in the divorce battle. No idea.

    However I think it is somewhat obvious from the police report from his traffic stop that zimmerman has a gun on him in his vehicle. So an assumption that he had one this time is not outlandish.
  91. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    Insults? That`s very POLITE of you @HolyGod!

    I am so moved by your politeness! You charmer you!

    Let me put it as bluntly as I can. This is how I view your "offer". Not "how it is" from YOUR perspective, or how "you intend it" ok? Is that clear? MY opinion of it, MY facts in this matter:

    @HolyGod: I want you to NEVER comment about me again on this public forum. YOU must obey MY rules, ok?
    @5Cats: No.
    @HolyGod: You unreasonable f-ing f-k! Why are you obsessed with me?
    @5Cats: I`m not, please go away.
    @HolyGod: I have gone away! I`m ignoring you! Of course I still talk ABOUT you, but that doesn`t count!
    @5Cats: Why not.
    @HolyGod: You unreasonable jerk! Leave me alone! I keep asking you to and you keep saying no! My feelings! ME ME ME! insults, name calling & etc.
    @5Cats: Cripes dude! Just go away already.

    Repeat ad nausium.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:05 pm
    HG: "I can`t think of a single time I have asked any of them to stop talking to me."

    You`ve certainly said that to me, more than once I believe.

    And the repeating questions and spurious claims over and over, is definitely an interrogation tactic that police (and scientologists) use.

    Sorry, but those tactics only work on the weak minded. You can`t brow beat 5Cats or myself like you do others.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    #1 Zimmerman was also not guilty of manslaughter, the jury `could have` found him guilty of that, but did not.

    #2 When did I say any such thing? I said: do YOU have MORE FACTS or not? Of course the system isn`t perfect = DUH! But usually? People who claim a verdict is wrong have a reason better than: "Because it makes no sense to me" OK?

    Or are you just changing the subject... again...
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:07 pm

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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm
    Thanks for the backup @CrakrJak!

    Funny how @HolyGod ALWAYS blames OTHERS for HIS behaviour, eh? And `politely` calls them names & swears at them ;-)

    He wants -them- to change, obey -HIS- rules, so he can do as he wishes -without- contradiction? He should go start his own website then! Simple.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    @Squrlz4: Dude! "Full Frontal Furry Nudity"? :eek!:

    It shows "blurs" on this page (for me) but I can see the "whole monty" when I goto the image site :-P

    Whoops: No more blurry! Just "the furry"! O_o
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:17 pm
    Crakr

    "You`ve certainly said that to me, more than once I believe."

    When? I know I said I wasn`t going to talk to you anymore a few times during our pre-election debates that got way in the weeds. I still maintain I never told you to stop talking to me. The comments are all out there if you want to prove me wrong.

    I simply asked 5Cats to stop talking to me because he drives me nuts and in return I will do the same. That doesn`t seem unreasonable to me.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    @ 5Cats: You think I should have put on some squirrel underpants before taking that selfie?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    5Cats

    "Of course I still talk ABOUT you, but that doesn`t count!"

    I don`t talk about you anymore. The only reason I did those few times is when someone specifically asked why you comment so much and why you are so obsessed with right wing american politics and why your s.hit gets posted so much despite the community hating it. I answered those questions. I didn`t go out of my way to bring you up.

    I guess all I can do is ignore you and your existence and your hundreds of comments directed at someone who does not want to talk to you. Maybe eventually you`ll get bored talking to nothing and chasing me around trying to egg me on.
  100. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    That doesn`t seem unreasonable to me.
    We know! But listen: It DOES sound unreasonable to everyone BUT you!
    Get it yet?
    It`s a public forum, I have broken NO actual rules! I have no "obligation" to do what you ask/tell me. Period!
    I already DO ignore you! I treat your with equal disdain as several other IAB members whom I don`t get along with. Equal! No "special rules" required!
    You say utterly stupid Shiite like "911 told him..." and GUESS WHAT? I`ll call you on it! Because it`s A LIE and I really dislike lying hypocrites such as yourself.

    @Squrlz4: Um... YES! Pants would be better. O_o Underpants at the very least.
    Also the big red arrow = LOLZ! :-)

    I`m going to look at pretty anime catgirls for a while... (eyebleach for @5Cats, eh?) or make a sammich...
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm
    ~Squrlz`s daydream: For a reality show, 5Cats and HolyGod are handcuffed together and placed on a small Pacific island (with a camera crew, of course).~
  102. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    ...chasing me around...
    You are aware this is a public forum, eh? I am free to read and/or comment to MY heart`s content, yes? I no more "chase you around" than I "comment on every thread" YOU comment on, you delusional liar.

    I guess all I can do is ignore you...

    HOLY CRAP! He finally gets it! It`s what I`ve said from the very start! DO IT!

    Sheesh! Finally! Even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.

    No offense @Squrlz4Sale... nuts... hee hee... (see what I did there?)
  103. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6728 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    Squrlz4Sale

    Jesus that`s cruel. What have I ever done to you?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm
    They should add a feature where every highly-rated submission gives you a point. When you have enough points, you can perform various managerial functions such as:

    - Block a person for an entire thread;
    - Sticky a comment to the top of the thread;
    - Completely block someone (posts, comments, PM`s);
    - Overlay a giant wang on somebody`s avatar for the day.

    I give you this genius freely IAB. Hmmm... it`s been awhile since I put up a new site and I do have to tryout those two new Laravel packages we built. }-)
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    I kid, of course (about making a site); I don`t have anywhere near that amount of time to spend on a pet project.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    September 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    The problem here is that there are no women in this thread. Result: boorishness and penis jokes.

    Clearly we (and I include myself) need their civilizing influence.

    Emmettyville? Madduck? Carmium? Nubblins? Where are you ladies?

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