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    harperlogan Male 18-29
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    September 3, 2013 at 2:47 pm
    Link: U.S. Health Care vs. The World - Infographic to show how health care in the U.S. stacks up when compared to 16 other countries using WHO data.
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    Rodin Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    What does "improved water drinking sources" mean?
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    Dumb infographic is dumb. Life expectancy is a terrible measure because different countries measure it differently. For instance, France does not include preemies who die in their death rate whereas the US does. It also doesn`t list out mortality and morbidity rates for various diseases or waiting times for various procedures per country. And it doesn`t list comparative litigation expenditures, which account for 1.7% of health spending in the US vs. 0.27% in Canada, for instance. Oversimplifying a vastly complex issue.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    Two things stood out on a brief read:

    The USA seems to be rather short on GPs.

    The USA does a lot of medical scanning (MRI, etc)...which probably goes some way to explaining the higher costs.
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 5:10 pm
    Am I the only one who scrolls down half a page, realise it`s a very long, drawn out infographic then close the tab?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    What does "improved water drinking sources" mean?

    Nothing, because it doesn`t say what the improvement is or what it`s relative to.

    My initial guess would have been that it refers to water that`s purified rather than just pulled out of a stream or well, but the 99% figure for the USA makes that seem unlikely.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    US has worst of both worlds. We absolutely don`t have a private healthcare system and if you think we do, you are misled. We have this complex unholy marriage between private insurance bureaucracies and strange government regulations that make it impossible to lower costs. It would actually be better to have a full government takeover. However, I don`t think that`s the ideal system either. I`ve spent night in Belgium hospitals, the grass is not greener there, European healthcare is not the pinnacle of healthcare achievement.

    I have seen many 3rd way proposals that are far better. One that is necessary is that the high-risk people must be isolated from the insurance pool and the government must swallow that cost. And get the lawyers out.
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    Rodin Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 6:28 pm
    "My initial guess would have been that it refers to water that`s purified rather than just pulled out of a stream or well, but the 99% figure for the USA makes that seem unlikely."

    That`s what I would guess as well. I, like almost 20% of Canadians, live in a rural area with untreated well water. So how is it Canada as 100% "improved water drinking sources"?

    I would call this infographic BS but I`m sure I would be accused of trolling.
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    lukeforv123 Male 18-29
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    September 3, 2013 at 6:30 pm
    We manage to spend a few trillion on some overseas war but god forbid we spend a dime on our countries health care.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 3, 2013 at 8:06 pm
    When I got the part about so-called "cost savings," I gave up. Whoever wrote this is a liberal fascist f***tard.
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
    1983 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    Who`d have thought Ollie would admit to being too stupid to understand an infographic.

    I mean *we* all knew that, but to see him finally realize it is rather stunning.

    The first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem, Ollie.
    There is nothing wrong with you that a LOT of education can`t fix.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    September 3, 2013 at 10:29 pm
    Sleepyhallow, I`d like to cordially invite you to go suck a bag of dead donkey dicks. This idiot`s ideas for cost savings ALL involve some government thug putting a gun to someone`s head and forcing them to do something that`s against their best interests. If you don`t believe it, here`s a little thought experiment. Just read each of those items, and ask, "What if I say no?" Repeat until some government thug shows up and puts a gun to your head.

    Once someone has proven that their a liberal fascist @$$hole, I couldn`t give a loose dry f*** what they have to say after that.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13595 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 12:07 am
    lukeforv123

    We manage to spend a few trillion on some overseas war but god forbid we spend a dime on our countries health care.
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    Always been the same, got no money to help the struggling, but always seem to have a bit down the back of the sofa for war..
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    September 4, 2013 at 12:23 am
    The biggest problem with health care in the US and I dare say some other countries is that they are run with the sole intention to make profits rather thn help people.
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    Byfield Male 18-29
    464 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 1:18 am
    I dont know why the UK still has an expeditionary force. We arent heavily invested in the middle east, we`ve lost the Empire and its troops - why dont we leave it to the yanks with their trillions of dollars of weaponry? I mean, we spend £37Bn per year (2.5% GDP). The US spends $683Bn (4.9% GDP). Thats a big difference right there. We have 200,000 active servicemen, US has 1.43 million. Why do we even turn up?

    That £37Bn could be put to good use. Assuming we have 70 million people in Britain, thats £530 each year to boost the economy per person. We could fix our roads and get the impoverished kids un-impoverished.
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    scheckydamon Male 60-69
    675 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 2:10 am
    Andrew155 said the magic words, GET THE LAWYERS OUT! That is why there are 2x the CT and MRI exams so the Dr`s don`t get creamed if they overlook something. The other side of the coin is, have you tried to get your insurance to approve a CT or MRI lately? Good luck with that.
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
    841 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 2:16 am
    Could we stop using the term "Yank" to describe all Americans? Yankees are from a very specific part of the country.

    Its not like we say that all people from France are Parisians. (And yes, while I realize that there is a scaling issue there, I`d say the scope is almost equatable.)
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
    1586 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 2:35 am
    People always want to bad mouth our health care system. I have a quick story as to why I think it`s fine.
    My wife had surgery a few years back for a tracheal stenosis. She was talking to a few people online about what she should expect from the surgery. There was a guy from India having the same exact surgery as her. She had her surgery done and there was a 6" incision in her throat. A couple years later she has no real recognizable scar. The man from India had an incision from ear to ear and all the way down his chest. He has a huge gnarly scar. Moral of the story...All the good doctors in the world come to America because they can charge an arm and a leg. The surgery cost more than our house, but it was covered so no money out of pocket.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
    2357 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 6:41 am
    For all the claims of how cheap single payer healthcare is, does anyone else realize that they DOMINATE the high end of the cost/capita scale?

    When I look at the chart, it looks like 3rd party payer (including single payer) is the most expensive healthcare in the world.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 11:49 pm
    Could we stop using the term "Yank" to describe all Americans? Yankees are from a very specific part of the country.
    Ask anyone in the world what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s an American.

    Ask an American what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s someone from the north.

    Ask a northerner what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s someone from the northeast.

    Ask a northeasterner what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s someone from New England.

    Ask a New Englander what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s someone from Connecticut.

    Ask someone from Connecticut what a Yankee is, and they`ll tell you it`s someone who eats pie for breakfast.
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    bolle54 Male 18-29
    71 posts
    September 5, 2013 at 8:08 am
    they say also "england to the uk" its not correct ;-)

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