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Date: 09/03/13 12:25 PM

23 Responses to NRA Outnumbers Gun Control Group In Columbus

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    Link: NRA Outnumbers Gun Control Group In Columbus - What happens when you throw a political rally, but nobody shows up except your opposition?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm
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    MelCervini Female 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    go buckeyes!!
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    I think you guys should do background checks before giving just anyone a gun but that aside; it IS quite funny that only the opposition showed up to the rally.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Background checks: They already do them. It`s a 3 day waiting period while they do the check. The new background checks invade your medical history and psychiatric. ANYONE who has seen therapists would be denied a gun. Anyone on anti-depressants would be denied one. It`s the guy NOT on anti-depressants you have to worry about fer christsake.

    So "Just asking for a background check" sounds good but the way to sell something is to label it properly. The description does not have to be accurate. Groups like "Citizens for Fair Taxes" are usually run by corporations endorsing laws or politicians that would give them more breaks.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    While strongly defending the 2nd amendment they were violating her 1st. Interrupting her lawful and peaceful demonstration was denying her her right to free speech.

    But people show time and again, they only believe in free speech that agrees with their own.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    Background checks are a good idea...on paper. With a little more thought and research you find that they don`t have an affect on people who commit murders, and violence with firearms.

    Furthermore, background checks are used as a political tool. Take mandatory safety classes for example...There are some laws that restrict pistol ownership without a mandatory safety class. Sounds like a good idea...except politicians have used it to keep honest people from owning pistols. The classes are only available thru the government...good luck jumping thru the hoops to honestly own one. They have all but made it impossible to purchase and own one.

    The law was made with good intentions, and later perverted by emotional gun grabbers.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    @Smoothjc1: ?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm
    @turdy & @Gerry1: Exactly! Anything which could possibly be twisted by `big government` WILL BE! background Checks are ONLY useful to restrict LAWFUL gun owners! The criminals DO NOT apply for them! Correct??

    So once again: take legal guns away and NOT take criminal guns away? = BAD idea!
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:48 pm
    No, now, let`s be honest. There are plenty of loopholes for background checks (e.g. the Internet, Gun Shows, etc.). But, as for this video, hey, free speech for all. Democracy at work, right? I`ve got not problem with legal assembly. I also have no problem with discussion of reasonable gun controls like liability insurance for guns, closing loopholes, required licensing for ownership, etc. You know, about hte same as for driving a car.
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    banjolegs Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    I am in favour of gun control but can see why it absolutely won`t work. something else needs to change in the culture of the people of the United states before any sort of restriction or banning would make any sense. I don`t know what sort of cultural change would result in criminals not wanting to use guns as the weapon of choice though...
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    September 3, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    banjolegs - Finally a European who gets it! (see...I even capitalized the E word this time)

    Some ideas are good on paper. We can agree on how things should be.
    The reality is that laws which limit our freedoms are used as a tool, and perverted beyond the intent which law was originally intended for.

    Why pass a law that won`t work? Some say "we have to try!"
    I could almost agree to that, but...
    At best, it will only hinder the law abiding, which is worse that trying and failing. It is a solid step backward.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    The purpose of gun control is so we can`t shoot at the guv`ment while simultaneously turning us into an unarmed shooting gallery.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    September 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm
    "The criminals DO NOT apply for them! Correct?? "

    By that logic, why have any laws at all? Criminals don`t obey laws so why have any?
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
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    September 3, 2013 at 10:46 pm
    @lauriloo

    Simple, laws exist to allow us to punish those who are a detriment to society.

    Everything that we want to stop them from doing with a gun is already illegal, all we do by adding more laws is make it "extra illegal". Is that how it works? "super illegal?"

    While that sounds good (harsher punishments for "extra super illegal" actions! Wooo!), we also impede on the rights of those who are not a detriment to society.

    To me, it almost comes down to this question: should murder with a gun carry a heavier punishment for murder with a rock? Should my punishment be harsher for shooting a man than repeatedly beating his head open with a rock until I can see the yellow matter custard dripping from the dead dogs eye?

    I don`t believe so, but you might. For me, because the presence of a gun isn`t an aggravating factor in the crime, throwing another legal violation into the mix serves no purpose.

    And, it
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
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    September 3, 2013 at 10:47 pm
    (continued)

    And it hinders those who would legally own a firearm. To me, that is no good.

    AND, that is ignoring all the other reasons the Second Amendment exists.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 3, 2013 at 11:44 pm
    @JadesDitoyr: Did I already welcome you to IAB?

    Welcome To IAB!

    @lauriloo: CARS are often used in crimes! All sorts of crimes! Crimes against children!
    Let`s severely restrict & limit ALL CARS!

    For the children!

    Telephones! Often used in crimes...
    Gloves! Often used in crimes...
    ROPE! (you get it yet??)
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 12:56 am

    JadesDitoyr - Don`t waste time with lauriloo. She has almost zero knowledge when it comes to gun control. When it comes to this subject, she consistently replys with the most asinine comments.

    All of her opinions on gun control are based on emotion and fear, instead of logic and facts.

    You shouldn`t ask a clown about particle physics, just like you wouldn`t ask Stephen Hawking how it feels to stick a triple back flip with a 2 & 1/4 twist.

    Emotions have no place in a logical conversation... just like lauriloo.
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
    841 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 2:04 am
    @5Cats
    You haven`t yet, but I greatly appreciate it. I`ve been lurking for many years, and I`ve always looked forward to reading your comments. Ok, viewing the catgirls you post. Gotta say, you`ve got good tastes.

    @turdburglar
    Oh, I know the type. I`ve always leaned to the Right, even when I was a young punk (you know, last week). But, the way I view it is that by having conversations with that type, I`m able to prepare better answers for when I`m speaking with those who have an open mind.

    Heh, "Extra-superduper illegal actions!" Maybe I should go into radio like my grandfather. I could be awesome.
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    Big_And_Tall Male 40-49
    36 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 7:25 am
    This is AWESOME!!! As mentioned before...we have enough gun control laws. We need to enforce the CRIMINAL LAWS!!!
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    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 10:54 am
    Let`s be honest here. There are actually three types of gun owners. The responsible gun owners who follow all the rules, the criminals who will use guns, no matter what, and the red neck hillbilly types who like to shoot there guns in the air while yelling "wooooooo!".

    Making it harder to get guns by having background checks and registrations (and by background checks I mean criminal checks, not medical), you may not stop criminals from having guns, but you will stop the large number of idiots with guns who won`t bother getting a gun because of the hassle of registering. In the end, that is better for all of us.
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
    841 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    Maybe its better for Canada. I`m trying to remember which of your provinces you might be referring to there... Alberta? Is that right? Alberta is the Mississippi of Canada?

    Its illegal to shoot your gun (randomly) into the air. They`re performing criminal behavior when they do that.

    Now, most rednecks know gun safety. They`ve grown up around firearms, and will behave in a manner less reckless than you seem to believe.

    Yes, it happens, there is no denying that. Brendon Mackey was a recent example; but it isn`t a common thing. In his case, it was Virginia, so not many southern rednecks there....
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33117 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 5:42 pm
    and the red neck hillbilly types who like to shoot there guns in the air while yelling "wooooooo!".
    @patchouly: Like... Joe Biden?
    Actually, that`s a "cultural custom" in a LOT of nations! Most Arabic ones, some Asian ones too, Serbia, Turkey (iirc)

    @JadDitoyr: It`s an `unofficial` welcome! I try to encourage intelligent posters, even if I don`t agree with them. I also hope to encourage "new righties" to overlook the IAB Liberal Brigade & feel free to state their opinion.

    Catgirls! I love them!

    Alberta is the "most right" province in Canada, it`s true. Gun crime is highest in Toronto, Vancouver and Winnipeg though... go figure!

    Alberta is also the ONLY province that`s NOT in debt...

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