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48 Responses to Mexico`s Racist Voting Rules? [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33155 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:06 am
    Link: Mexico`s Racist Voting Rules? - The USA is less strict than Mexico? Than Canada? That`s so racist!!!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:13 am
    Trolololololol

    Also: Mexico immigration law.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:16 am
    I don`t know about Canada but, national indexing of citizens is prohibited in the US and, we already know, SS numbers violate that.
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    SavageChef Female 50-59
    2692 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:27 am
    Let`s see. I can`t get medical, dental, or bank account service, without a valid id. I can`t rent a home, buy a car or home, cash a check, without a valid id. I can`t insure my car, be stopped by a police officer, or pay with a credit card, without a valid id. I can`t--wait, I`m tired, so I`ll stop here, but the list goes on and on and on.
    So what the doodleydonkeynonsense problem do people have with showing their id card to vote?
  5. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33155 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:28 am
    @Andrew155: True that! Mexico`s borders are sealed up pretty tightly! To keep Central & South Americans OUT!

    @CodeJockey: The idea of a "National Health Card" has been a Democrat policy since Hillary Clinton floated it in 1996 (iirc the year). You can bet your boots that somewhere inside the bowels of ObamaCare there`s ID Registration involved...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36875 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:43 am

    The only reason to fight against voter identification is if the voter fraud goes in your party`s favor.

    just sayin`
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    Mad_Gremlyn Male 30-39
    512 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:52 am
    Because we don`t want to be like Mexico, Canuck. What`s the deal with Neocons pointing at other countries and saying America is the best and everyone else is a failed state and then tuning around and saying, they do it, why aren`t we? Other countries have single payer health care but this argument doesn`t work for that because contards pick and choose with no clear political thesis. It`s just whatever is convenient at that time. Sheesh. You want us to be like Mexico? Move - from Canada - to Mexico then, 5braincells, let us know how that works out for you.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
    3069 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:56 am
    The thing I have against them being introduced here in the UK is that we do have a proven track record of abusing the systems and also of taking away rights in piecemeal fashion...so they`d start off just being used for voting for instance, then a year later when the fuss has died down they`ll say you also need it for another trivial thing, then again a bit later they`ll introduce a law saying that if stopped by the police you will have to show it to them...which means carrying one at all times would be mandatory, and before you know it your rights to privacy have gone through the window because your ID card is tied to everything from booking a train ticket to what is in your shopping basket every week.
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
    4095 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:59 am
    Yea things in Mexico are going great!.................
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:16 am
    "So what the doodleydonkeynonsense"
    The honest answer is "It`s a mechanism for preventing poor people from voting."
    Not everyone who lives in your nation has the same lifestyle and quality of life you do.

    BTW: If you are not operating a vehicle on a public road and a cop asks you to ID yourself, the requirement is "My name is X Xington." The card is superfluous to answering the request.

    Cats, someone also proposed shoving chips up everyone`s ass (hand) but, neither is going to happen.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33155 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:30 am
    @CodeJockey: Yeah, "bar code tattoo" on your forehead! `The Mark Of The Beast = 666` :-)

    Well, it`s true! And Revelations says "No man can buy or sell without the mark" too!

    So yeah, a tattoo barcode or implant has been thought of as a replacement for ALL forms of ID, and credit cards too!

    L - H - R :-)
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:33 am
    @Gerry--or if you don`t live in a fantasy world where you somehow believe that everyone has access to forms of ID, and realize that people who aren`t driving cars (i.e. low-income city dwellers) don`t have a readily available photo ID.

    There is a difference between realms of the theoretical and realistic, and that is often completely ignored in these stupid political volleys.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:39 am
    Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:59:15 AM
    Yea things in Mexico are going great!.................

    LOL you bastard
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:42 am
    I love that everyone is pointing to Mexico as an example of how things should be handled. Did you all forget Mexico has one of the biggest wage gaps in the world? Also how drug cartels are murdering police and intimidating government officials? Yeah, we should totally follow their example.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:50 am
    UN vote observers, from Europe, came to America in 2012 to observe our elections for "fairness`. The UN observers were shocked that no one needed to show an ID to vote.
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    El_Chinche Male 18-29
    546 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    As a certified Mexican, I have to say even though I love my family`s home country, it`s people, culture and food, f*ck that place. Love visiting, wouldn`t want to stay. Between the drug cartels and dying economy, Mexico isn`t exactly a shining beacon of hope.

    Unlike the US, vote buying and voter fraud is rampant in Mexico and not some delusion conjured up by sore losers of a dying political party. Also the voter id`s do very little to curb voter fraud in Mexico. So no, the voting system in Mexico is not something that should be looked at as exemplary.

    Also folks in Mexico can be very racist. One of our favorite past times is making fun the silly foreigner who can`t speak spanish. It`s a common bit on Sabado Gigante.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    Whoa, whoa, slow down there conservatives. Nothing wrong with voter ID but this is national ID your talking about. Seriously now you`re just opening yourselves up to MORE fraud.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6280 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    CodeJockey-"It`s a mechanism for preventing poor people from voting."

    I must have missed the law, regulation or legislation that says poor people can not have access to an ID.

    Types of ID:
    US State photo driver license.
    US State photo learner permit
    US State Non-Driver photo ID.
    US Military ID or dependent card.
    Photo pistol permit.

    Average cost of a non-driving photo ID in the US is $13.27. (not counting the many states that offer free or reduced rates for elderly or poor.

    Hardly an inconvenience.
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    Nageki Male 30-39
    110 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    How can a political party RELY on voter fraud when there are very very few actual instances of voter fraud taking place? The stats I`ve heard were like 4 whole cases of voter fraud found in the US at all in 2000-2008. 4 votes is not going to get a political party into office anywhere... Nice over blowing the circumstances to try to make your point...
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    Twinklestein Male 30-39
    513 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    "How can a political party RELY on voter fraud when there are very very few actual instances of voter fraud taking place? The stats I`ve heard were like 4 whole cases of voter fraud found in the US at all in 2000-2008. 4 votes is not going to get a political party into office anywhere... Nice over blowing the circumstances to try to make your point..."

    Hahaha! You`re funny!
    Oh- You`re serious? You do know the old saying "History is written by the winners." yes?
    It applies to government too. Why would you investigate voter fraud if it got YOU into office?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    There are hundreds of thousands of non provable cases of voter fraud happening each voting cycle.

    The reason we don`t hear about it, is because we have a flawed system, and it is not provable.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6280 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 2:19 pm
    Nageki-"The stats I`ve heard were like 4 whole cases of voter fraud found in the US at all in 2000-2008."

    Someone`s been feeding you bu||sh|t stats.

    46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
    Since 2002 there have been ~50 convictions for voter frauld in Texas alone.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    This system disenfranchises homeless people who don`t have documentation. The proposed voter ID law isn`t "racist" but it discriminates against the poor, who just so happen in the US to be racial minorities at a higher rate.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33155 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    Hey! IAB Europeans!
    You guys need to show ID to vote? Let us know!!
    IAB Asians and everyone else too :-)
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:01 pm
    Hey, I think it`s super important that we compare ourselves to Mexico regarding voting rights. Right? Is that what we want? But, hey, if so, let`s do it! The cards are 100% free to the voter, are used as official ID for determining age (buying beer), traveling, even to open a bank account. So, hey, if you guys want a national ID card, and if the government is willing to pay for it, by all means, let`s do it up! While we`re at it, a national system for voter registration and voting rights. Woo-hoo, viva Mexico!
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm
    MeGrendel, we`ve provided source after source after source proving that you`re wrong about voter fraud. Please provide an actual valid source for your whole 46 states bullpoo instead of just repeating the lie. Please.

    AJ, there are thousand upon thousands of vampires here in the US, too. And, yes, we vote. You can`t prove that we`re vampires, though, because we`re super fast, super strong, and magical. And, no, unlike what you`ve seen in the movies, we don`t sparkle in the sun. We`re everywhere, but, don`t try to prove it, you can`t. I promise it`s true, though. Honest!
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    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
    559 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:31 pm
    Yup, that will fix it! There is like no corruption or fraud in the Mexican government.

    It kinda surprises me that anyone thinks their vote still matters in any way.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
    2229 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:31 pm
    Id (usually a driver`s license), and some other form of ID, is required, IF you don`t have voter reregistration card(which requires a valid mailing address).

    Typically two pieces of ID and your mailing address, your allowed to vote once the id and address are validated. But SOOO much easier to just take your voter registration card. Which is automatically sent out, if check the Election Canada box on your income tax form.
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    I think it is stupid how many times they say they are trying to fight voter fraud when there has been no evidence of fraud.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
    762 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
    This actually will fix the immigration problem. When the government controls which citizens can and cant vote everyone will want to move to Mexico.
  31. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 5:09 pm
    drworm: There have been 46 states that have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.

    There have been 2,068 cases of alleged voter fraud in the U.S. since 2000. And those are just the ones that got caught, there are an untold number that have got away with it.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
    1743 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    Well here in MN, I had to show a piece of mail and a photo ID to vote...

    o.O
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    Please give credible sources, CrakrJak. Many of us have posted over and over legitimate studies showing no significant voter fraud here. At all. From real, legitimate, actual studies and actual verifiable web sites. Please list a credible citation for the stats you`re using. Please?
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    ultimakewl Male 18-29
    833 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 5:25 pm
    @CrakrJak
    theres a big difference between alleged and proven
    you can allege anything you want

    and then when you consider all the elections from then till now and all the people that voted in each of those elections youre looking at maybe one thousandth of a percent of all votes
  35. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 7:45 pm
    SmagBoy: Is the Wall Street Journal credible enough for you, or are you going to continue to doubt what I cite most of the time? Link
  36. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 7:49 pm
    ultimakewl: There are over 1.8 million DEAD people still on the voter rolls, in the USA, and some are continuing to vote from the grave. That`s not alleged, that`s fact.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm
    Al Franken` margin of victory was much smaller than the number of felons who voted illegally in that election. A poll showed that ~90% of them voted Democrat (naturally) -- enough to change the result of the election. Franken ended up being the deciding vote for ObamaCare.

    Voter fraud is real, and it matters.
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    Sonsglow Male 18-29
    201 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 8:57 pm
    It`s *dependent not "dependant." Also--the U.S. strives to be freer and fairer (ideologically) than all else. In what universe would we take cues from Mexico?
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    Sonsglow Male 18-29
    201 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 9:02 pm
    @OldOllie--can you explain how a 60-39 Senatorial vote came down to the solo, Mr. Al Franken?
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    Sleepyhallow Male 50-59
    1983 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 9:56 pm
    Old Ollie.... otherwise known as the "Brain Dead Fox News MeatPuppet" for his almost verbatim recitations of Rupert Murdock`s opinions.

    Thank you Sonsglow for pointing out what an idiot Ollie is.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 10:53 pm
    "I disagree with you, and I like having my head in the sand (or am just fine with my team cheating) so you`re an expletive, because I have no facts to defend my constantly failing perspective on life." - sleepy and hollow

    Kudos for not working in "racism" somehow.
    Don`t you you have something better to do, like sell a war in Syria?
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    JadesDitoyr Male 18-29
    841 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:01 pm
    @Mad_Gremlyn
    As a Neocon, (Well, I`m more an Alex P. Keatoneocon) I`ll answer this for you.

    While as a Republican, I don`t care what other countries do. Despite the opinion of some Supreme Court Justices, foreign law has no impact on the Constitution of the United States. However, I understand that some liberals love to bring up foreign law and talk about how glorious it is.

    Likewise, I understand that you (read: some liberals) care what other countries think about us, and what they do culturally. Its a weapon I can use against you, when it does suit my cause. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and in this case, Mexico is right.

    What? You don`t care what Mexico is doing? How about these European Countries? No? But you were just extolling their virtues when we were talking about Marijuana and Gay Marriage? And here I thought we might have some common ground...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33155 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 12:11 am
    @sonsglow: Fillibuster:
    60-39 = NO filibuster.
    59-39 = YES filibuster!

    Geez Louise, a Canadian lecturing a YANK on how his own Government works? Sad sad sad.

    Because Mr.Franken`s electoral results were being legally recounted? His vote wasn`t allowed. So the "Judge" let whole PILES of "newly found votes" into the mix, 90% of which were... FOR FRANKEN! All supplied by Democrat Party Workers... of course UNBIASED ones!

    History: Pay attention or STFU.

    @SleepyHallow: That pointing out of an idiot? The finger points at YOU at the moment...
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    Tupinambis Male 18-29
    568 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 12:47 am
    So I`ll take a wild guess that maybe 1% of the population has one of these government issued voting cards? That would explain the state of their grand country.
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    synaw Male 18-29
    58 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 6:37 pm
    this assumes that...
    1.) the mexican system is an upgrade
    and
    2.) the mexican government isn`t as racist as republicans
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    AltairWolfe Male 30-39
    20 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 6:44 pm
    And yet voter fraud is rampant in Mexico, marring elections for decades and even as recent as 2012. So..... your point about how useful a voted ID card is, is what?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6280 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 8:11 pm
    synaw-"isn`t as racist as republicans"

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Conservative definition of Racism: The practice of treating people of different races differently.
    Liberal definition of Racism: The practice of treating people of different races the same.
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    cheeseb Male 30-39
    258 posts
    September 5, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    then what is my voter registration card?

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