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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    September 23, 2013 at 3:02 pm
    Link: Lawful Rebellion - freeman beats the taxman
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    September 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    Since he`s invoking the Magna Carta as the basis of his position, then he should be treated appropriately. People were required to pay local tax in 1215 in England, based on an assessment of their wealth by the local authority.

    So today I pay tax to the local authorities and in 1215 I would have paid tax to the local authorities. All that`s changed from 1215 is that the local authority is a group of people elected by representative democracy instead of a group of people who were appointed by the monarch (or by someone whom the monarch invested with the authority to do so).

    That change not the awful, dreadful, illegal oppression of the people that these silly people are pretending it is. I think the modern taxation system is fairer. It`s certainly less intrusive, since it doesn`t involve state officials examining what you own and assessing your tax liability on that basis.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    September 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm
    Dammit, only today I agreed to pay council tax I owe...the Gods they taunt me.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    September 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm
    Huh, a crazy person on the Internet, that`s unheard of.
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    banjolegs Male 30-39
    176 posts
    September 23, 2013 at 8:37 pm
    What a knobber. Just pay the tax like everyone else does.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5606 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 5:31 am
    YOU LIED!!! Gordon Freeman isn`t mentioned anywhere on that site!!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 5:46 am
    Since when can a private entity force people to pay taxes? I mean seriously England, that`s really f*cked up.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 6:21 am
    The freeman movement is pathetic. Also it is a good way to end up in jail. These twats have been rearing their ugly heads in Canada as of late...mostly in Alberta (which shouldn`t be a surprise if you know Canada). There`s an elderly woman in Alberta who has had to deal with one who rented a property of hers then claimed it as his own sovereign property. Now the lady has gotten another mortgage to pay for all the damage he did to her rental property (he basically gutted it).

    These people are a blight on society.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 6:43 am
    People like this piss me off. If everyone stopped paying taxes, where would the money come from? Bad enough the corporations are getting away with it, now idiots like this are too? Soon, it will just be me, paying everyone else`s taxes.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
    6651 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 10:12 am
    Freeman? Bloody freeloader more like.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    September 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm
    Since when can a private entity force people to pay taxes? I mean seriously England, that`s really f*cked up.

    It would be if it was true, but it isn`t.

    Council tax is paid to local councils. It`s split between police, fire brigade, town/city council and county council (for other stuff paid for by taxes). Maybe in rural areas there isn`t a town/city part, I don`t know.

    You probably have something similar over there. I vaguely recall reading something about city taxes in the USA.

    The freemen people are just talking rubbish. They believe (or pretend to believe) that local councils are private businesses because they didn`t exist in their current form in 1215. It doesn`t really make sense - England had local authorities and local taxes in 1215 anyway.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    September 24, 2013 at 6:12 pm
    Maybe we should give them the medieval anachronism they claim to hold so dear and just hang them. There was a hell of a lot of hanging going on in late medieval England and the authorities back then really didn`t like people refusing to pay their taxes. You could be hanged for stealing a shilling, which was little more than a week`s pay for a low-end job.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    September 25, 2013 at 2:23 am
    Angilion: We have property taxes and even city parking licenses for cars, even nonsense fines and fees that are actually stealth taxes. But those are all from government.

    There are some gated communities that have HLAs that are private contracts, but you have to sign and agree to those terms ahead of time or not move in there.

    But as far as I know, a city council here can`t just raise property taxes on their own. They can and do raise fees, like dog licenses and parking stickers, but property taxes are assessed by the state and county assessors. And their assessments can be appealed on several grounds.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    September 25, 2013 at 6:04 pm
    Over here, local government is still government. So they have a limited authority to levy local taxes. National government still has overall control, but there`s a degree of decentralisation.

    Council tax is based on the market value of your property, so it`s a form of property tax. You can appeal on various grounds, of course.

    Our systems aren`t all that different (unsurprisingly). It seems like there`s some difference in the ways in which authority is decentralised, but there`s taxation for local services in both our countries.

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