Fukushima Is Still A Thing [Pic+]

Submitted by: MrMuta 3 years ago Science

Apparently we are all going to die when they try to remove the damaged fuel rods from one of the cooling towers
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Male 17,512
McGovern: If F*kushima had been a thorium fuel cycle nuclear plant, we wouldn`t even be talking about it. In fact it would likely have been cleaned up and being rebuilt by now.

Not all nuclear power is alike, we have the technology to do it safely, with no risk of proliferation, and with no long term storage issues.
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Male 2,424
Whats a few mutations amongst friends?
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Male 1,059
Maybe a nuclear power plant on an easily-floodable island wasn`t such a great idea...

We need more nuclear plants, but let`s build them inland, shall we?
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Male 14,330
Glow green go nuclear!! Let speed up evolution with genetic mutations!!
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Male 17,512
Btw, it`s uranium fuel cycle nuclear messes like this that give nuclear power a bad name.

We need to invest in thorium cycle reactors, they will be much safer and less costly in the long run.
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Male 1,104
thanks, that makes me feel better, given that we live right around the corner ... ;-)

there is so much stuff out there, amazing. i read about the Hanford nuclear facilty (hello washington state!) the other day, sounds also like a big mess.

too much scary sh.t out there, i`ll just stop reading, seems like the best solution.
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Male 6,227
@ Mr_Ike: Thank you for the additional information; it`s very helpful. I`m relieved to hear it`s not as bad as this article portrays it. That said, it`ll be a relief when that mess is finally sorted out for good.
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Female 4,447
According to Australia`s ABC news, Japan has finally decided to accept outside help in dealing with the whole mess. Here`s the story.
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Male 3,578
it not full it water. for cooling it is only alpha radiation
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Male 17,512
Ugh, got "fudgeushima"-ed by the damn curse word filter again.
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Male 17,512
I knew this was going to be a chicken little post the second I noticed an oil refinery fire used to represent fudgeushima.

Removing and processing the fuel rods will take years, it is not something that can be done in a few months even under ideal conditions. Until a thoughtful and deliberative way of dealing with them safely is found, it`s better just to leave them where they are and keep pouring water on them.

Only fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
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Male 620
"This is an Issue of Human Survival."

lol.
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Female 4,349
yup, we`re all f ucked. dont eat fish.
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Male 186
The only real problem right now is containment and processing of the cooling water being pumped into the leaking reactor vessels.

I`ll agree its a problem in terms of it being able to taint a large amount of the fresh water in the area. I`ll also agree that the construction of the tanks is not the best if could be. Taking the time constraints into consideration and the challenge of containing this much water in such a short amount of time, it`s not going as disastrously as some media try to make it out to be though.

Most important in the long run right now is reducing the amount of water needed for cooling. An important step in this is the removal and processing of the spent fuel in the spent fuel storage pools. Then comes processing the "dirty" water in storage now. Both of those are going to require time.
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Male 186
The statement: "Radioactive hot spots continue to be found around Japan." is also of no use. Radioactive hotspots exist everywhere in the world. Theres a few hundred in the US at the Nevada Test Site alone. A lot more exist across the US and the rest of the world from both natural and nuclear testing causes. Few of them are from nuclear accidents.

Most of the hotspots touted in the media are in any way linked to fudgeushima or any other nuclear accident. The problem with the linked article is that it very clearly has an agenda and a bias. It seems written by someone who wants to spread fear and misinformation and is clearly anti nuclear in general in its intentions.
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Male 186
Why did that get cut off? I was not over the max yet... anywho:

... (Unlike for instance Chernobyl, where long lasting decay elements and radioactive graphite where blown very high into the atmosphere by the massive hydrogen explosion following the core meltdown.) The claim that zirconium cladding will spontaniously ignite upon contact with air is BS.

I also can`t find a single credible report for the claim: "There are indications of heightened rates of thyroid damage among local children." Neither as clearly linked to radiation damage or even as just increased thyroid damage without taking cause into effect.
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Male 1,122
Just did some googling and routers is tracking this too. Seems not quite as gloom and doom but its close.
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Male 186
@Squrlz

The cladding on nuclear fuel assemblies is made of an ALLOY of Zirconium, meaning it has to reach extremely high temperatures before igniting (see this answer from NEI: link

the temperatures needed are just not going to be reached on fuel assemblies that have already lost over 75% of their decay heat production. So even if the fuel assemblies were to be completely exposed they would not catch on fire. (It wouldn`t be a good idea though, it could still cause radioactive smoke) Even if there was a full on fire, most of the fallout would be contained within a very small area. Little of it would make it to the US and the bit that did would most likely not be dangerous. (Unlike for instance Chernobyl, where long lasting decay elements where b
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Male 6,227
@ Mr_Ike: Care to elaborate? And provide a link or two? (Not challenging you, just asking for more information.)

Not knowing much about it, I can`t see how the situation *wouldn`t* be serious. I`ve seen photos of the water tanks that have been hastily built on site: dozens and dozens of them crammed into every available space. It gives the impression that TEPCO is barely able to keep ahead of the radioactive water leaking out of the site.
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Male 186
Most of the dangers spouted as fact on that site are complete and utter BS. The rest is questionable at best. There is no reason to panic whatsoever.
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Male 14,330
This is what I don`t understand. It seems a lot of people who are environmental want more of this type of power instead of say gas, oil and coal. It has a friggen half life 10,000 years!! Then this sort of thing can happen with it!!
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Male 1,122
Well that sounds dire...why is it only on IAB? You`d think impending doom for our world would be on some form of news?
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Male 4,746
Super hero powers for all!
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Male 13,624
Look forward to Godzilla in the next year or so then
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Male 653
I think a good reason for not acting is not being allowed to. The Japanese government does not want help.
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Male 3,061
Hopefully the exposure to the radiation will turn me into a green monster, but I`m sure it`ll give me the power of incontinence.
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Male 7,775
Oh look, another one of those things the scientists tell us wouldn`t go wrong. Millions to one against...oops.
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Male 14,775
meh
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Male 23
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