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    ElijaBlack Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 6:41 am
    Link: Faux News - I can`t think of one.
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 6:54 am

    They like keeping it religious? How about we change it to "Under Buddha"? Or "Under Allah". I`m sure Christians would be fine with that as long as it`s not atheist.
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    pumba62 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 6:55 am
    these children are pawns in their parents agenda ....your children are not pawns in your agenda
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    pumba62 Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:00 am
    instead if " In God we trust" why not we trust in our beliefs!
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:08 am
    I`m an Atheist. I think religion is a terrible cancer that needs top be wiped from the planet. It corrupts minds, destroys lives, starts wars. It is nothing but fairy tales and magic, put together as a way of controlling the masses.

    Now, that being said, this video was terrible. You can`t compare black and Atheists. Also, You can`t say a Christian doesn`t believe in all the other religions. Most versions of Christianity are the same. They all follow similar rules. The important thing is, they all believe in God. Therefore, being "Baptist" as an example, does not mean you don`t believe in the the same religion as a "Presbyterian"; it just means the rules are slightly different.

    Again...Atheism good. Religion bad. Video worthless.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:43 am
    We live in a world where people constantly promote a false dilemma, where THOUSANDS of religions exist and EVERYONE thinks that their religion is the RIGHT one, which again, by definition it means that everyone who doesn`t share the same religious view is damned to HELL. The truth is, NO ONE can be 100% certain of anything because our senses deceive us, and when we all die, that is when we will either know that there is an Afterlife or we all go into the great Void. But until then, scaring the crap out of children by saying if you don`t go to church you will burn in HELL is a bunch of hooey.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:43 am
    I am NOT an Atheist for the record, I am non-religion specific and consider myself a Spiritualist. I believe that the only thing that`s certain is EVERYTHING is made up of energy and what we sense is "real" can be directly linked to what sensory organs we possess or what we have been exposed to. Trying to explain what an iPhone is to a Yali tribe when their "reality" is so vastly different. But, that doesn`t mean that an iPhone doesn`t exist nor does it not make the iPhone any less real. Although I do not advocate or promote religious activities, I do respect other people`s religious choices as long as I am not mandated to contort my belief system to fit theirs. The Bill of Rights has a very specific theme which in fact emphasizes on religious freedom which by definition includes an option to not commit to a religion at all.
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    McThstlpnts Female 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:44 am
    Chick @ 1:00 ...everything she says...amazing. So blind and hypocritical. EVERY WORD she says could be applied to Christian (or any religion for that matter) parents depending the point of view.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:46 am


    Do you see your own hypocrisy? How about both side STOP F UCKING PREACHING!!! You`re annoying the s hit out of rational people with much more important things to do!
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:52 am
    @McGovern1981,

    Fair enough. Take your religion out off schools, off of our television sets, off our money, out of our text books and away from all the other millions of places that I have to be exposed to it on a daily basis and I will stop fighting back.

    Religious nut bars really need to stop griping about Atheists standing up for ourselves. The only time I bring it up is when one of you brings up or mentions religion. Then I stand up for my side.

    Oh, and by the way, calling yourselves "rational" is one of the biggest oxymorons I have ever seen. It take every ounce of irrational thought possible to believe in a floating magical sky wizard that grants wishes. There is nothing on the Earth that is more irrational.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 7:55 am
    @patchouly

    as someone who legally immigrated to the U.S. many decades ago, I still remember the glorification and the promise of Freedom of Religion in the United States, whereas in my old country, your religious choice of practice or non-committal to one religion(your ONLY option was Aryan Christianity) almost guaranteed you to not only be ostracizes, but in many cases religious vigilantes would take it upon themselves to put you to death (which was thought of as "just fine with us.")
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:05 am
    @aliyahg1979,
    I`m sorry you had religion forced on you. I truly am. Here, religion is forced on you as well, just though peer pressure (no murdering etc. just being ostracized from society for believing in something different. Not anything close to what it must have been like for you, I admit). Still, this sort behaviour from the religious folks are what we are trying to stop. How long before we have the same sort of thing here?

    Religion is rotten to the core. The harder they fight, the harder we have to push back. We need to focus on science. Logic. Reason. Not myths and fairy tales. Until we, as a society, can put the tribal nonsense behind us, we will always be hindered in our societal evolution. We will always be afraid to move forward because the "Sun God" will ruin our years harvest.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:09 am
    I have American christian friends- and they appall me when they make statements like this, or when they insist that `god` and the bible should be in schools. It seems their grasp of history is really limited, their knowledge of world affairs restricted - and yet when I point out how lucky they are to practice whatever sect of christianity they do they get all flustered and tell me they are being persecuted... LOL.. cracks me up every time!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:09 am

    "In God We Trust" ?

    Not me! That sonofabitch is mean! Have you read his book? It`s like the prequel to `50 Shades Of Gray`
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:13 am
    @McGovern

    Has an atheist ever knocked on your door and tried to convert you? Has an atheist every condemned you to an eternity of torture for believing something different? Has an atheist ever told you you were immoral just on the basis of your belief in god?

    Yes, there are atheists who like to bait Christians and others, but most of us would just like the religious to leave us, our schools, and our government alone.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:14 am
    Fair enough. Take your religion out off schools, off of our television sets, off our money, out of our text books and away from all the other millions of places that I have to be exposed to it on a daily basis and I will stop fighting back.

    Except it`s not my religion that right there is your types problem. You`re no beter than what you preach against you`re almost exactly the same. Why do you get so butthurt of words on things?

    I bet you`d be the first to defend the worst offender of all though Islam......
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:19 am
    @patchouly

    When we arrived in the U.S. I was like a kid in a candy store with having so many options to pick a religion of my liking. I went on a quest to find something that fit me, and I started in the library. I read about so many religions it made my head spin... For years I scoured libraries, asked countless people about their religion and with each step of becoming more informed, I came closer and closer to a realization that not one specific religion applied to me, and that my spiritual belief was guided by VIRTUE and SELF POLICING.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:26 am

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:32 am
    I don`t follow a religion but I can see how Atheists are pretty close to the same thing....

    Atheism:
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:33 am
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:53 am
    The British sing "God Save The Queen". I fail to see the problem here...

    Canada has "God keep our land/ Glorious and free"...

    Yeah it was "controversial" at the time:
    O Canada! Both languages!

    Also problematic:
    "In all thy SONS command"
    I agree it should have been "We are at your (thy) command"

    "So also is it ready to carry the cross."
    From the French Language version: it LITERALLY means Catholicism, not `just` Christianity...
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 8:54 am
    @McGovern:

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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:03 am
    We live in a world where people constantly promote a false dilemma

    @Aliyahg1979: I agree 100%! Wise words for ALL to learn from :-)

    Where the POO did you come from? Serbia? Just a guess, no offense intended!! Glad you are free now!

    @patchouly: France is TRYING to take ALL religion out of public schools. They`re having one HELLO of a time with the Muslims!
    I`m just saying: It`s NOT "just a Christian Problem" eh?
    Here in Canada we have Sikh children LEGALLY carrying knives to school as part of their religion.
    True fact!

    @patchgrabber (@patchy) VV Nice one! Lolz!

    As a Deist? I definitely "feel superior" to both 8-)
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:11 am
    As a Deist? I definitely "feel superior" to both
    Deism isn`t as bad, that`s true; but it`s still irrational. No difference between a universe with a deistic god and a universe with no god.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:12 am
    @patchouly,
    I don`t quite agree that the video was terrible, although it was certainly overstated. I think his point regarding Blacks was simply to show that being a minority doesn`t, or at least shouldn`t, restrict one`s rights and that that includes even atheists and members of minority religions.
    McGovern1981 is right. Let the believers believe, let the non-believers not believe. Don`t try to make me a believer, I won`t try to make you an atheist. Seems fair to me.
    Lady in the background news report seems to be saying that the atheists shouldn`t have the right to remove "under God" from the pledge. On one hand, I personally don`t care. On the other hand, though, that means she thinks it`s okay for the believers to push their beliefs on everyone, but not for non-believers to do the same. Not sure since not enough of the report is shown but it was, after all, Fox News. Bet she thinks there should be formalized school prayer with all students compelled to particip
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:23 am
    @patchgrabber

    And the universe came from??? Oh ya a massive explosion from nothingness...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:44 am

    @ McGovern "Nothing" did not explode. Everything was together and Everything exploded .
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:44 am
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:50 am
    @5cats

    Siberia was close! I came from the old USSR, and unfortunately for me and my kind (people with more than one nationality and non Aryan Christian beliefs) we were persecuted for it. The government took drastic measures in the late 80`s to rid the nation of its pest problem (like me and my kind) to make us "voluntarily" leave the country by threatening bodily harm and offering "oops insurance" (via mafia) to businesses where if you didn`t pay 90% plus of everything you made, there might be an "accident." Or the lowest of the low, when they went into schools and instructed the teachers to assign a "show and tell" type project where a student would have to reveal information about their nationalit(y/ies), where the parents worked, what their names were etc... just so they could get "correct" information for the census.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:50 am
    @Gerry1of1

    and Everything bound together before it exploded came from nothing......
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    broizfam Male 60-69
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:51 am
    @Gerry`
    At least those guys got a tangible advantage from their god!
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:52 am
    Retards. It`s not meant to be there. It`s anti-constitutional.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:54 am
    Oddly enough in England schools are required by law to have regular assemblies of a broadly christian nature and to teach religious education.

    Our head of state is also the head of the church and our second chamber is packed with unelected clergy.

    But generally we just ignore it.

    In the US the constitution very specifically seperated the state from religion, but it is all over the place.
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:59 am
    As soon as they found out who was "not pure", the "true Aryan Christians" came out of the woodwork, proudly destroying lives and leaving their mark... the swastika... "the sign of the pure" as they called it. Me and my family were lucky... we left on our own accord after some horrific "convincing." We left with rationed clothes and money (were only allowed to to have $400 out of all the money, each person: 2: shirts, pants, shoes, dresses (girls), suits (men), 1 wedding ring, earrings (1 set, girls only), 1 watch (adults) and limited underwear and socks. no language and no money, but we were off to a new land where anything was possible and religious persecution did not exist and we were free to choose.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:59 am
    McGovern,

    Have you tried Krauss`s book?
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 10:15 am
    [quote">And the universe came from??? Oh ya a massive explosion from nothingness...[/quote">
    @LordJim pointed you to a good read, Here is the youtube if you`d prefer.

    Sometimes it is hard to tell if you are sincere, but some things do have good explanations, others more complex.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 10:37 am
    FYI: "under Dog" WAS NOT in the original Pledge of Allegiance.

    I`m sick of hearing these retards say this country was founded on Christianity. Take the time to learn about our founding fathers and the history of this country then come talk to me about it. Funny how the ones that claim to be so patriotic don`t have a f*cking clue about our history.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 10:47 am
    Holy shiite, it`s just a little pledge people. I never understood how atheists and religious people can get so worked up about this. As a child, I just said the words "under god", just `cause. It wasn`t that big of a deal. I didn`t really believe them, but more, I really didn`t THINK about them. In fact, a 1st grader doesn`t understand the actual meaning of the pledge.


    Because in the end, it`s just a stupid pledge that isn`t worth having a hernia over, or getting your panties in a twist.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 10:50 am
    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the phrase "In God We Trust" on our money does NOT violate the first amendment right to freedom of religion, because the word "God" does not endorse any specific religion. The U.S. Government may not favor any particular religion above any other. But the word "God" means whatever YOU believe created the universe. Some could say "God" refers to the natural laws of Physics. Some could say it refers to a flying spaghetti monster.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 11:08 am
    @patchgrabber & LordJim

    1. I`m in no way religious

    I do belive sciences explanations mainly but when you start thinking into it really deeply into it and get down to the elements in the universe that compse everything either A. Somehow always exsisted(not sure how that would work) or B. Came from nothingness. Now doesn`t that sound a lot like what fundy atheists (HEHEHEHE!!) love to criticize all the time?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 11:18 am
    Inaliable rights?!
    Inalienable rights.

    1. I am an atheist. I have no gods, devils, spirits or any of the stuff associated with typical religious beliefs.
    I am neither proud nor ashamed of the fact; It is the way I am.
    I do not make any attempt to convert others to atheism. You can believe what you want. If belief makes you happier, improves the quality of your and other people`s lives, and makes the world a better place, then good for everyone on the planet.
    That is their inalienable right.
    Atheism does not make me a bad person, it just means that I do not have to justify `doing good` to anyone. I have no deity to `answer to`; common decency and a good upbringing are key factors. My mother had christianity beaten into her as a child, and vowed that it would not happen to her children.
    2. Anyone who has watched `Pirates of the Caribbean` will know that the US constitution is starting to look a bit like the Pirate Code:
    Not so much rules, more
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 11:21 am
    Not so much rules, more like a sort of guideline...

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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    McGovern1981:
    "and Everything bound together before it exploded came from nothing......"
    -------

    Nope. Everything, all matter, always was. It`s plausible that time has no end. Therefore, it`s equally as plausible that there was no beginning. Things didn`t have to be "Created". They just always were. A never ending cycle of states and dimensions. The "Big Bang" just being one of the states of flux in the Universe.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    No difference between a universe with a deistic god and a universe with no god.
    @patchy: Yup! Although it varies from person to person. It`s a pretty "fine line" eh?

    @aliyahg1979: I guessed "Serbia" (Part of Yugoslavia) but you`re from "Siberia"?
    Anyhow, I always knew life in the USSR was hard. It sucked from top to bottom. Everyone suffered equally, eh? (Except, of course, "The Elite"...) Ever since... 1840?

    I`m glad you got out of there successfully!

    My ancestors, German Mennonites In Ukraine, fled the Czar in 1895... came to Canada! :-) Yay!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    @patchouly: I agree that a "ray" and a "line" are both infinite, but one "has a beginning" and the other doesn`t.
    And I think the point is: ANY argument one may make against "God" also applies 100% to the "Big Bang".

    That`s why, to us Deists? The Big Bang just might BE "God"... or vice-versa. We don`t much like the "it`s an accident" idea, but we don`t rule it out completely...

    Note: Varies Wildly among individual Deists! It`s not so much a religion... as some guidelines!!

    Thanks @Nickel2!! :-)

    To me? In MHO? It`s all "guidelines". Science, religion, philosophy, pizza...

    OK! Time for late lunch / early dinner!
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Loved this video. It and the mouthy bitch on the Fox channel sum up everything about religion. Choose a different cube and the hatred and vitriol just spews out of these `Godly` people. And most people don`t even choose a cube, it`s passed down from their parents or community and they live with the consequencies.
    Great to hear an Englishman trying to explain this for you.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    5Cats - we have similar (and rare) lineage! My ancestors were German Catholics in Ukraine who settled just across the border in North Dakota!
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    aliyahg1979 Female 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    @5Cats

    You pretty much summed it up lol
    For me, being of Russian, Ukrainian, Latvian, Belorussian and Hebrew lineage was apparently very bad. I had no idea we were such terrible people, but how could I tell? We had a Christmas tree every year, a cross with Christ hung on our wall and we carried on like normal, everyday folk... worked hard, paid taxes, amazing grades in school... but I guess to others, because of our lineage we were scum of the Earth even though we never did anything to anyone.

    We have family members who immigrated to Toronto, Canada while we immigrated to the U.S. Been up to visit, beautiful city, lovely people.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    @5Cats,

    But the issue here is not "Which solution seems more plausible" (although it seems glaringly obvious that the plausibility of infinity is a very valid theory and hold it`s own against a magical sky wizard). The issue here is who has proof or some measurable evidence?

    I don`t put forth any theory as concrete; However, there is more than enough evidence that God does not exist and zero evidence that he does. I refuse to buy into the "Blind Faith" thing. That, in itself, is enough to make me look to other theories.

    There are two type of religious people. The zealous, brainwashed numbskulls that have the IQ of dirt and blindly believe anything they are told and the second type... The ones who question it just a little. The ones who know, deep down in the back of their minds, that the whole thing is fake but they are too scared to take that step and really question it.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    5Cats:
    "@patchouly: I agree that a "ray" and a "line" are both infinite, but one "has a beginning" and the other doesn`t. "
    ---------

    You see, the thing is, to believe in God, you already have to believe in infinity. You have to believe that "He always was and always will be". So if you can believe that than why would it be such a stretch to believe that the Universe just always was. If you don`t have a creation, you don`t need a creator.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    @aliyahg1979

    You can immigrate to my place anytime!!! :-p
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    danagamer Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 3:27 pm
    why does a British guy care?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2013 at 3:33 pm
    danagamer, good point. I would never feel the need (in fact I would feel rude) to inject myself in an issue like this in Ireland, the UK, Australia, or any number of countries that far away. And by "issue like this", I mean the wording of a relatively obscure pledge that nobody says after age 18. I mean, it`s pretty trivial.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 4:55 pm
    Andrew155- And by "issue like this", I mean the wording of a relatively obscure pledge that nobody says after age 18. I mean, it`s pretty trivial.

    Is that the same trivial pledge you guys like to quote verbatim whenever you can`t get your own way?
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    here is an idea. If you have a problem with "under God" in the pledge, Dont EFin say that part. Most the pledge is a lie anyway, there is no republic, just what our rich masters tell us; and no "liberty and justice for all" I cannot tell you when the last time i said the pledge, because no one means or believes it any damn way
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    "The British sing "God Save The Queen". I fail to see the problem here... "

    Lemme correct you there the English sing God Save the Queen,
    The Scottish sing `Oh Flower Of Scotland`
    The Welsh sing `Land Of My Fathers`
    and the Irish sing `The Soldiers Song`
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    September 18, 2013 at 6:56 pm
    @Andrew155: ZOMG! Did I mention that mine went Catholic too?
    Great-Great Grandpa had 7 kids, then wife #1 died. So he married a Catholic woman (and had 8 more kids) so the first 7 converted. They then moved to Canada, all 7 of them. The second bunch stayed behind.
    One came to Humboldt, Saskatchewan (My Great Grandpa) and the other 6 settled near Leipzig, Saskatchewan.

    @patchouly: Cosmogony How did THAT get there? (points in any direction)

    @aliyahg1979: Sad eh? People get so upset over the most trivial things sometimes...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    I quit watching when the narrator compared atheists with blacks. Sorry, Bzzt, Wrong! Throwing the race card into a "under God" debate is about as asinine as it gets.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 18, 2013 at 9:23 pm
    whodat: "I`m sick of hearing these retards say this country was founded on Christianity. Take the time to learn about our founding fathers and the history of this country then come talk to me about it."

    I can spam quote after quote after quote, that America was INDEED founded as a Christian nation. They wrote it into the constitution as "freedom of religion" and they didn`t want anyone one church to be favored. But that DOES NOT mean "freedom from religion" as atheists are saying they have a right to.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    September 18, 2013 at 11:04 pm
    Ugh, what a pathetic post...
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    September 19, 2013 at 2:26 am
    actualy crackrjack, that is precicely what it means. you have the right to chose what ever religion you want.. but with the right to chose comes the rigth not to chose too. hence, you atre free to leave what ever religion behind too in effect giving you no religions what so ever.

    And the race card wasnt trown in as a argument of the religion thingy, it was trown in as an argument of not catering to the whims of a minority
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    September 19, 2013 at 5:18 am
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
    How could this *not* mean freedom from state-sponsored religion?

    or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    There`s your freedom of. Note that the first part doesn`t allow for your country`s government to promote one religion over another. To believe elsewise is to be wilfully ignorant.

    And it`s well established your founders were deists.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4892 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 5:43 am
    @Modwain,
    "And the race card wasnt thrown in as an argument of the religion thingy, it was thrown in as an argument of not catering to the whims of a minority"
    Slightly off. It`s an argument against catering to the whims of the *majority* because of the prejudicial affect it can have on the minority. An example might be that the Christian majority could vote to make religious worship illegal on Friday nights. That would be prejudicial against Jews. Or the white majority could vote to make it illegal for blacks to attend college. The fact that some majority wants something doesn`t make it right. It`s what someone once referred to as "the tyranny of the majority".
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4892 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 5:51 am
    @CrakrJak,
    The US was certainly founded by Christian people and certainly on the "Christian Ethic" (which, of course, is not restricted to the Christian beliefs), but it was NOT founded to be a specifically Christian nation. And, yes, it can be argued back and forth but from of religion presupposes freedom from religion. If it didn`t, it would mean the government has the right to force you to choose a god to worship.
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4892 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 5:53 am
    Oops:
    "freedom" of religion presupposes...etc.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 6:21 am
    The people from the UK have no place to get on this BS. Now who elected your royal family again???
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 6:23 am
    broizfam: "...presupposes freedom from religion."

    You mean "assumes" and you are incorrect. the "establishment of religion" clause restricts only the government, not the churches.

    Since atheism is not a religion it does not have the protections of the "free exercise" clause as religions do.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 7:25 am
    "Now who elected your royal family again???"

    You know the royal family isn`t the government in the UK, right?
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4892 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 8:02 am
    CrakrJak,
    "Assumes" Fine. Big effing deal but use the word you prefer. I don`t give a sh*t. The point is that the gov`t may not establish a religion or force me to accept one. Therefore, I have a right to be an atheist. There is no need for a "free exercise" of atheism since there is no atheistic practice, at least that I`m aware of, to exercise.
    I don`t know what your reference to the churches not being restricted. I agree that they`re not restricted, I just don`t get where you were going with that comment. By the way, I think "presupposes" works just fine.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 9:54 am
    You know the royal family isn`t the government in the UK, right?

    Nope just supported by it.... So what your saying is it`s an absolutely useless thing supported by tax payers elected by "god." Glad we could have this talk :-)
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    broizfam Male 60-69
    4892 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 11:16 am
    @McGovern1981,
    I think you nailed it!
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
    870 posts
    September 19, 2013 at 7:09 pm
    `supported by tax payers`

    not so much they bring in millions
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33147 posts
    September 20, 2013 at 3:46 am
    Since atheism is not a religion it does not have the protections of the "free exercise" clause as religions do.

    @CrakrJak? THAT is the post of the YEAR!



    Seriously? You SCORED dude!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33147 posts
    September 20, 2013 at 3:47 am
    And the BEST part is?

    The atheists have NO IDEA how funny it is!

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    September 20, 2013 at 6:39 am
    not so much they bring in millions

    Which the queen then takes by giving herself a raise. So now you belive the government that supports them and their claim they somehow make you money but still have to take yours hmmmmm. Even if it were true does that make it right?

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