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37 Responses to Advice For Those Considering Joining The Military

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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    August 31, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    Link: Advice For Those Considering Joining The Military - Retired Special Forces Master Sergeant Stan Goff explains what military life really entails.
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    botfly Male 50-59
    616 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    Sorry, but I don`t want some touchy-feely douchebag watching my back. Stay home and make cupcakes Betty.
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    Botfly...you seem to be a bit more douchy then him.
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    September 1, 2013 at 2:44 pm
    all of my friends who basically said the same thing. there was a bunch of bullpoo and they couldnt wait to get out. but they met some of the coolest people and did some really cool things and given the chance they`d do it all over again.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    September 1, 2013 at 2:57 pm
    Well that was honest.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    September 1, 2013 at 3:00 pm
    "Sorry, but I don`t want some touchy-feely douchebag watching my back"


    That kind of person that uses their head as much as their trigger finger is a lot more reliable to have watching your back than some meathead who thinks he`s the action hero in his own movie.

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    Listypoos Male 40-49
    3069 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Skypirate, yeah it`s definitely the bullpoo aspect that gets to you in the end. In my head I would like to do it all again, but in reality I couldn`t take orders from some of the halfwits I used to any more..I`d be more inclined to tell them to drat off now.

    I did two six month detachments to the US forces and I could do that again in a heartbeat...the colonel was more chilled out than the brit counterparts I worked for and he didn`t dish out that much bullpoo as long as everyone did their job.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36202 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    I loved the Marine Corps when I served. I wanted to go career but alas, it was not to be. But that was 30 years ago and things have changed. I don`t advise anyone to join. But if people don`t they`ll start a new draft because all those defense contractors want a bigger payday.
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
    3069 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 3:39 pm
    Gerry, what was it that made you want to serve in the first place?

    I think there were a number of influences in my decision to join up but the biggest one was my grandfather who died a couple of years before - he wasn`t one for telling war stories and was very quiet about it in general, but when he did tell me about some of his experiences you could sense the pride he had for his mates and regiment and I wanted to follow in his footsteps a bit and see what it was like.

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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 4:32 pm
    I think I enlisted because I feel every person should have to serve their country for some small amount of time, at least. I have my reasons for getting out but chances are if I could do it all again, I would.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    My reasons for joining? Well it was a different world, different country then and most don`t apply. America hadn`t thrown away the Constitution yet. Other reasons were personal, and wouldn`t apply to anyone but me.

    But as a young man it was a good thing to do. I came away from the experience better than when I went in.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
    2067 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    Glad I joined and glad I got out. No regrets, got to enjoy three years in Belgium, and it paid for my college education.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 8:26 pm
    Ask yourself one basic question. Could you kill an enemy and live with that on your conscience for the rest of your life? Most people can`t, even if they think they can.

    The military is about killing people and breaking things, it`s what they are good at. Asking them to be "policemen" is like using a sledgehammer to build a curio cabinet. I`m not saying that the military can`t be rewarding, for many it is.

    I just think it`s being sold as an easy way to get college money, and it`s not easy at all.

    Also, if any of you do want to go in, get that training that you want in writing first, at the recruiters office, and don`t loose it. And don`t give them any excuse to "other than honorably" discharge you, or you won`t get diddly squat.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 8:41 pm
    The Iraqis never presented any threat to this country.
    Okay, fine. So tell me, when did Afghanistan present a threat to this country?

    Please answer with a date.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 9:52 pm
    That`s the first right-minded American I have heard from in a while
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36202 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    "So tell me, when did Afghanistan present a threat to this country?"
    That wasn`t about a threat. Afghanistan had a choice, turn over Bin Laden or we invade. They chose to hide Bin Laden. In effect they said "Bring it" and we did.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36202 posts
    September 1, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Link_Hiei - I know the life expectancy of a corpsman so I`ll worry for you. In the meantime, do a good job and good luck.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 12:57 am
    Btw, I would like to thank everyone at IAB that has served in the US military. Much respect.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13602 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 1:45 am
    @Link_Hiei
    Come back safe dude, and your fellows
    Much respect to you and all those who have been told to fight these impossible wars




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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
    2334 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 3:38 am
    If there`s ever a war worth fighting I`ll be the first in line to join up. There hasn`t been one since 1945.

    Being a puppet for corporate interests isn`t my cup of tea.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 3:44 am
    I enlisted because of the money for college (which, at the time, was far, far less than they offer now). But I didn`t have any illusions about what it would or wouldn`t be because, when I enlisted we were about to go to war with Iraq over invading Kuwait. Or, you know, oil.

    I knew I was volunteering to do whatever they wanted me to do in exchange for an education. I was lucky. I got out with my skin and mind intact. Many don`t.

    And for what it`s worth, I`d take a hundred of this guy in the foxhole with me before I`d take a single gung-ho wannabe-soldier who thinks that being thoughtful and introspective about taking lives makes one a "Betty".
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 4:08 am
    @ botfly, is that you in the `human hammer` video?

    @ Gerry, Link_Hiei - I know the life expectancy of a corpsman so I`ll worry for you.
    If he wasn`t worried before, he should be now.

    @draculya, hear-hear.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 4:22 am
    @Kegomatix

    "I think I enlisted because I feel every person should have to serve their country for some small amount of time"

    A noble sentiment, but there are many ways of serving your country other than via the military.

    I would argue that every farmer is serving our countries by feeding us. And you can extend that to most every profession; everyone is serving the functioning of the country in one way or another.
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    caper454 Female 70 & Over
    511 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 6:12 am
    When young people mess up their lives and hit rock bottom, there are typically two things they turn to: Jesus, or the military. That`s what the military is, a haven for f**kups.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
    885 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 7:36 am
    @Link_Hiei

    Good for you. I wish you the best of luck and while @Gerry makes good points, I wouldn`t take much stock in what the `pean trolls say on here.

    I don`t agree 100% with everything the guy said but he does make alot of valid points.

    I`m proud of my service and I`d do it all over again. I definitely wouldn`t want a `hero` as he described it covering my backside. There are positives and negatives to every job as well as good and bad people.

    Knowing the things I know I talked my son out of going the gung ho route of active duty right out of high school. While I would never tell him not to join I wanted him to get that education first, then do whatever he feels he wants to do.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    It`s not a people`s army anymore, and it doesn`t fight in the interest of America. Guns for hire. Do you know how much these guys get paid? You can retire at 20 years and get half your pay for life. That could conceivably be 40-50 years of collecting in excess of 50k, or, up to 90k if you made it to Col. before you retired.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    Andrew, if it sounds appealing, they`re hiring. By all means, go down and enlist or request a commission (if you`re degreed). They`ll be happy to have you!
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    No, they wouldn`t be. My dad was in for 30 years. I grew up in that community for my first 18 years. I have even met Petraeus, who was one of my neighbors at MacDill AFB at one point. Having met his wife, he definitely traded up. My family doesn`t fit in with the military community, and I certainly don`t myself. ROTC was awful. No, it wasn`t hard. It was...lame. The first indication was when a Sgt. wanted to fix my collar, but said "permission to touch" in the dorkiest way possible. GTFO.

    I have countless reasons for this. I would need to write a paper as to why it`s a bad choice in 2013. Even my Dad wouldn`t have joined this new military, which is so different from the one in 1980.

    But also, they`re not hiring in the way you say. Enlistees, yes. But me having an MA from the Ivy League, it would be a bad life choice to enlist. Commissioning for OTS or OCS has about 20-60% acceptance rate based on which service.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    I don`t know if you`re suggesting that people who aren`t Progressive should join the military, but that`s also something that`s not really true anymore about the military. As a whole, it still may lean Republican, but I remember distinctly at my Community College classes I took when I was 17 with Airmen....they were all voting for Obama. One of my ROTC instructors even told everyone to vote for Obama on election day. The military is amok with Political Correctness, that`s how you get the Fort Hood shooting.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 8:03 pm
    @Gerry, you missed the point. When BEFORE 9/11/01 did Afghanistan represent an imminent threat?

    Agree or disagree, the whole point of invading Iraq was to prevent another 9/11 BEFORE it happened rather than to wait for another attack and then take revenge after the fact.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 8:04 pm
    @Link_Hiei, Thank you for your service. Take care and don`t come back a corpseman.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    September 2, 2013 at 9:14 pm
    the whole point of invading Iraq was to prevent another 9/11 BEFORE it happened rather than to wait for another attack and then take revenge after the fact.

    That is an impossible goal, we`ve still had terrorist attacks since then. The only surefire thing that can reduce the probability of them is economic growth, something you know isn`t achieved by the end of a gun, but the possibility of such attacks will never go away.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
    841 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 12:14 am
    When you hear the truth spoken, it sounds so crisp and clear. Do you know why all this "Support the Troops" stuff is going on today? It is because people felt guilty for treating them with such disrespect during the Vietnam war. Not one soldier has died for my freedom since World War II. Everything since then has been to advance the American Empire.
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    September 3, 2013 at 11:17 am
    @ Link Hiei, hey I wish you safe return. I admire the courage of guys like you and I honestly think you are doing what you believe to be the right thing. It`s just my opinion that this isn`t one of those things.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
    582 posts
    September 4, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    An organization that exists for females to get raped and then cover it up.

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