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130 Responses to Hate, Racism And Vandalism At Oberlin College

  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 8:21 am
    Link: Hate, Racism And Vandalism At Oberlin College - Turns out to be... FAKE! Month long `troubles` made by ultra-leftists, covered up by school. Story in credits link
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 8:48 am
    They do this stuff all the time. When the truth is boring, make stuff up.

    Here`s another example
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    cjs67 Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 8:55 am
    Big drating shock here.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 8:58 am
    Brown girl at 2:00 is hawt
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 9:00 am
    Great post. Heads should roll for this. We all know the outcry if this were whites that had fabricated these lies.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 9:03 am
    Hey, they can`t find racism, so they had to fabricate it themselves. They have to get `the truth` out...even if they have to lie to do it.

    Who are you to judge how they get their message out?

    Anyone that points out that this hoax was an attempt to inflame Race Baiters are racist.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 9:35 am
    HAHAHAHA

    "did the follow up that the mainstream media didn`t do"

    Ummmm..... you mean like FOX News? Who reported the story too? Then did no follow up?

    "The actions were real, the fear and disruption they caused or community were real, we will not tolerate acts of hatred or threats of violence regardless of motivation"

    "the response is a little baffling to me"

    HUH? What am I missing? If someone rights racial slurs or hate speech all over, as a joke, and thousands of people, who don`t know it is a joke see it, doesn`t it have the EXACT same effect as if it were perpetrated by someone who truly feels that way?

    How the f.uck is that response "baffling"?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 9:45 am
    HolyGod-"How the f.uck is that response "baffling"? "

    Had it been a white guy doing it and they found out, he would have been arrested, expelled and sued by every Race Baiting organization out there. Speeches would have been made and the College administration would have spent millions proving how proactive they are.

    And Obama would have given a speech, "If I had a daughter at Oberlin..."

    BUT, seeing as it was not a white guy, but a hoax perpetrated by a minority...nothing was said, no speeches given, the College adminstration wanted to keep it quite and the ONLY reason it was reported THIS much was someone had to file Public Disclosure Request with the college (i.e. FORCE them to tell the results of the investigation). And did you notice there was NO mention of either student being held accountable.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:01 am
    Megrendel

    "BUT, seeing as it was not a white guy, but a hoax perpetrated by a minority."

    Do you know something I don`t? Because I`ve watched the video twice and there is no mention whatsoever of the race of who perpetrated the hoax.

    "And did you notice there was NO mention of either student being held accountable."

    No I didn`t notice that. I noticed her saying they were booted from campus. That strikes me as being held accountable.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:02 am
    drawman61

    "We all know the outcry if this were whites that had fabricated these lies."

    AGAIN

    Do you know something I don`t? Because I`ve watched the video twice and there is no mention whatsoever of the race of who perpetrated the hoax.

    Are you guys just making assumptions?
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:19 am
    @HolyGod

    From the article:

    The black St. Peter’s Prep student who purportedly received racist text messages warning him to drop out of the Jersey City high school’s student government election sent the texts to himself, a school official confirmed last week.

    He was black.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:20 am
    HolyGod-"mention whatsoever of the race "

    In that you would be correct. I should have said `Conservrative` and `Liberal`, as it WAS liberal activists who did it.

    And everyone knows it doesn`t matter HOW a liberal accomplishes a `converstation`, what`s important is that they do.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:21 am
    Does anyone have a link that shows the trolls were black? I can`t find anything that tells their race. Just that they trolled EVERYBODY, gays, jews, blacks, muslims, everybody who might get offended. Sounds like typical white boy trolls to me.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:29 am
    HumanACtion

    "He was black."

    That is a 16 year old from st peter`s prep.

    This post / video is about oberlin college. That link doesn`t really have anything to do with the story.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:31 am
    lauriloo

    "Does anyone have a link that shows the trolls were black?"

    Funny how megrendel and drawman automatically assumed they were a minority and tried to turn this into a "well if they were white they would have gotten in trouble, but minorities get away with everything" conversation huh?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:36 am
    MeGrendel

    "In that you would be correct. I should have said `Conservrative` and `Liberal`, as it WAS liberal activists who did it."

    You tried to turn this into a racial thing though.

    "Had it been a white guy doing it and they found out, he would have been arrested... BUT, seeing as it was not a white guy, but a hoax perpetrated by a minority..."

    Can we stop turning f.ucking EVERYTHING into a racial issue on this site?

    Sometimes kids pull pranks. Sometimes people pay for things in a store even without having to, sometimes kids are mean to other kids. It happens no matter what skin color you are. This race-bait s.hit is getting ridiculous.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:37 am
    HolyGod
    only thing i see is the start of the first video it is a light skinned black woman that was saying she saw someone dressed in clan garb so that is one. so at least 1 but like you said, the others there is no idea the race or motivation for stupid actions
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:39 am
    mandingo

    "the start of the first video it is a light skinned black woman that was saying she saw someone dressed in clan garb so that is one."

    The story later states that the "KKK" person in question was wrapped in a blanket. So she is probably just an over-reacting witness, not one of the perpetrators.

    I doubt these people were female, no matter what race they were.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 10:47 am
    @HolyGod

    This post / video is about oberlin college. That link doesn`t really have anything to do with the story.
    Well son-of-a-b*tch. Who the hell would put a link to a different case up? I always default to reading the articles instead of watching the clips. Sorry, that`s my mistake.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:05 am
    HumanAction

    "I always default to reading the articles instead of watching the clips. Sorry, that`s my mistake."

    No worries. So do I usually.

    However this is a FOX News clip posted by 5Cats so I just couldn`t resist. It didn`t disappoint either. 2 kids pull a stupid prank and FOX turns it into a referendum against liberals and higher education, plus an opportunity to point fingers at "the mainstream media" (for doing what they themselves did).

    Then I got to watch commentators try to turn it into a reverse racism special treatment issue when race isn`t mentioned ONCE.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:11 am
    "So she is probably just an over-reacting witness, not one of the perpetrators. " so its over-reacting and not bringing up a hate issue that the news story was about ... thanks for clearing that up for me :-|
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:20 am
    Mandingo

    "its over-reacting and not bringing up a hate issue that the news story was about ... thanks for clearing that up for me"

    Huh? The story is that the hate speech and vandalism was perpetrated by two students as a "joke". They also clarified that the "person dressed in KKK robes" that was previously reported was someone in a blanket. So I find it more likely that the girl in the video was simply a witness to the robe / blanket incident than one of the two people who did the vandalism. No?
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:27 am
    and if you listen to the reporter after that woman was on, the reporter basicly said it was from her origional story about the racism. so that woman was "over-reacting" on the bandwagon of racism, and to me makes her just as guilty as the unknown ones.
  24. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:35 am
    Mandingo

    "that woman was "over-reacting" on the bandwagon of racism, and to me makes her just as guilty as the unknown ones."

    So someone making a mistake about what they are seeing is the same as vandalizing and writing "n.igger" all over the school?

    That strikes me as odd. But to each their own.
  25. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:41 am
    HolyGod-"Can we stop turning f.ucking EVERYTHING into a racial issue on this site?"

    You DO realize the video was about a racial issue, right?

    We can stop turning f.ucking EVERYTHING into a racial issue on this site when the Race Baiting Industry quits turning f.uckingEVERYTHING into a racial issue when it`s not always the case (Zimmerman, Oberlin, et al)

    And when liberals quit making bogus `racists` claims.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:59 am
    MeGrendel

    "You DO realize the video was about a racial issue, right?"

    The video was about a hate speech hoax. It wasn`t JUST racial it was about jews as well.

    The point is YOU started complaining about reverse racism and how much worse the kids would have been punished if they were white. That isn`t EVEN REMOTELY on topic.
  27. Profile photo of mandingo3519
    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 11:59 am
    "i saw someone in clan attire" = brings up racial tones and makes a racial issue. writing that word all over the school = brings up racial tones and makes a racial issue. "So someone making a mistake about what they are seeing is the same as vandalizing and writing "n.igger" all over the school?" yes it is when both actions do the exact same damn thing, Race-baiting. Also i dont see it as she "made a mistake" the race wagon was open and she jumped on. The report said that it was someone in a blanket, i for one never have seen a blanket (thick and colorful) that could be confused with clan garb, closest thing would be a sheet ... except maybe a hospital blanket.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    "The report said that it was someone in a blanket, i for one never have seen a blanket (thick and colorful) that could be confused with clan garb, closest thing would be a sheet ... except maybe a hospital blanket."

    Guess you can`t put yourself in someone else`s shoes who is young, female and black who sees some troll`s racist messages all over campus and feels generally unsafe. I can see how that would make someone feel scared and misinterpret something she sees. I take it you are an expert on klan garb and might be able to identify it more easily than a young scared black girl in Ohio.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 12:16 pm
    "And when liberals quit making bogus `racists` claims."

    Liberals will stop making racist claims when non-liberals actually admit (or even realize) many of the things they do are blatantly racist and stop doing them. Hold your breath...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    Sounds like typical white boy trolls to me.

    White boy....now tell us all how you`re not racist again.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 12:30 pm
    "I take it you are an expert on klan garb and might be able to identify it more easily than a young scared black girl in Ohio." so a personal attack, instead of facts and or opinions. to answer it though, am i an expert on klan garb? no more of one than anyone who reads, researchs, ect. for knowledge to be informed instead of just believing what i am told. Funny thing is i have some experience about this specific subject, do to being accused of being in clan garb when i was in a straight-jacket (my ring attire back when i was wrestling). Thanks to the assumption i am no longer able to get in the ring. more importantly though is the fact that maybe it was a mistake, but i dont believe it was. The facts also are that because she is young, black, and a woman you are giving her a pass on it. I feel generally unsafe all the time as well as we all should, due to idiots out there. To me that is no excuse to add to an already terrible situation.
  32. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 12:51 pm
    Here`s A Reminder Of all the handwringing and hysteria that went on a few short months ago. Despite evidence early on it was FAKE? The Administration still used the opportunity to advance their "progressive" agenda even further!!

    But, as usual, it was FAKE!

    If "the left" cannot find racism? They`ll DAMN WELL MAKE SOME! And the MSM will GLEEFULLY report it!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:02 pm
    Ummmm..... you mean like FOX News?
    @HolyGod: Stop trolling. You know exactly what she said AND what she meant is 100% correct. So why `mock it`? Oh yeah! = Troll!

    Because I`ve watched the video twice
    @HolyGod: There`s a link but it goes to a rather long article. An article FULL of information!

    @HumanAction: Yeah, that story was in the link. I submitted it separately too! It happened in between the "Oberlin Scare" and now.

    automatically assumed they were a minority
    @HolyGod: They were women... aren`t you paying attention?

    Sometimes kids pull pranks.
    PRANKS? Are you JOKING? This was a campaign of graffiti and vandalism designed to disrupt the campus! OH GHOD HOW FAST the excused fly from the mouths of idiots when THEIR TEAM gets caught!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm
    Oops! PROPER LINK HERE

    Thanks @kitteh9 (or @Fancy if he did it) but you made a boo-boo!

    I put 3 submissions in: 2 serious and 1 funny. It seems that ONE part of each got posted! Thus mixing them up.

    If someone could put up the "Fixed Link" that would be great. I`d even forgive @HolyGod of (most of) his comments.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    lauriloo: Liberals are so full of self-guilt that they think that anyone that doesn`t act as they do are automatically racist. In other words, if you`re white, you`re racist until you admit your own guilt.

    F*ck that bullsh|t.

    I judge by content of character, not skin color. Just as MLK Jr. said 50 years ago today.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    Attention Drawman, MeGrendel, and 5Cats:

    The perpetrators were white males.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    "Media Creates Incentives for Students to Invent Racial Hoaxes"
    Some More Thoughts and examples of this sort of thing (and how the MSM just `eats it up`)

    Note how many times this sort of thing has happened at Oberlin? A LOT!


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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    So which vids do you want up? which is the link for the credits link? You sent the same vid in twice and the page you linkedisnot what you have posted in this thread.

    I can fix it now and will erase the pic because it is way too big.
  39. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm
    I still don`t get the point of this story.

    What makes this a "HOAX"?

    Hateful s.hit was done. It is a hoax because the perpetrators said they were just kidding after?

    What is it that the college covered up? That the people who did all the anti-semitic, racist, homo-phobic stuff said they didn`t actually mean it? Does that matter?

    They should be punished no matter what their motivations were or what their skin color is or what politics they support.

    If I spray paint "LYNCH ALL N.IGGERS!" across the lincoln memorial does it make it less of a story if I say I was just kidding afterward?

    The media covered a real (not hoax) story of widespread racial intimidation on a college. What is the problem?
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Oh. My. Gawd. This place...
  41. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    Hi @kitteh9!

    Ok: I sent the "Student Council Candidate" one, just a link to the page. That`s what got linked on this post.

    The two videos here? Top One is from "Hate... college?" and the bottom from "More videos..."

    In the Hate... College I suggested it, but things got all weird! So I re-suggested it with a "?" at the end.
    Sorry about that!
    The linky was in the notes, if I got it wrong then it`s MY OOPS!
    Luckily I saved most of them, the links I mean.
    Also in the notes was another video link which I posted below.

    The "more videos" had the Lower Video linked, plus two more videos in the notes.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Ooo! Mod Tools!!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:43 pm
    *sigh*

    @HolyGod: If the Nazis paint hate-graffiti all over? That`s vandalism, hate-crime & etc.

    If the OWS (just for example) were to do it, and then CLAIM the Nazis did it? THAT is a "hoax".
    It still SHOULD BE considered a hate crime, doubly so since now it`s a hate crime against Nazis too!

    It`s the false accusation that`s the "hoax" part. There were no actual "racist attacks" just the FAKERY OF THEM.

    And it`s not an `isolated case` it`s like 8 out of the last 10 times now!!
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    Do this: write me back and hot link each video you want up in this thread. Mark them video1, video2, etc in the order you want.

    Then hot link the one you want in the credit link. title it credit link.

    I will redo it for you.

    P.S. I can`t read the notes you send attached to submissions. Don`t know why. It`s a glitch.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:45 pm
    Back to @kitten9: What I intended was:

    Top Video

    Lower Video

    Content Link Below

    (give me a second to double check after I post this)
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    OK, let`s get to the real story here: one of these kids describes himself as an "atheist / pacifist / environmentalist / libertarian socialist / consequentialist" on his Twitter page.



    Libertarian Socialist?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    Yup, good to go!

    You cannot read the notes? how did you find the links? Oooo! These were the primary links from the 3 offerings!
    *ding*
    Now it makes perfect sense. :-)

    Ok, so in the future no more "links in the notes" or can you whip @FancyLad into fixing things?
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    "The media covered a real (not hoax) story of widespread racial intimidation on a college." so a "joke" that caused racial fear is bad, but a "mistake" is ok? that sounds a little 2 sided to me ...
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:51 pm
    HumanAction

    "Libertarian Socialist?"

    Check out the wikipedia page. It sounds more libertarian than even you are. They want no structure, no property, no authority.

    It is like commune anarchy. Stupid, but it is a real thing apparently.
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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    Yeah links in the notes do not get seen.

    Fancy fixing things... HAHHAHA

    Really though it could be a glitch from my end. The web browser I use can screw things up as well as other tools that are not compatible with the IAB console. Things can get hinky back here real quick sometimes. Yesterday it was eating all the pics for hours.

    Will fix. Give it 10 minutes to update.

    You and Holy proceed.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:54 pm
    Mandingo

    "so a "joke" that caused racial fear is bad, but a "mistake" is ok? that sounds a little 2 sided to me ..."

    What mistake are you referring to?

    The media reported that it happened. It did happen.

    If you were black, or jewish, or gay and you saw that s.hit I`m sure it affected you. the fact that the guys who did it didn`t mean it probably doesn`t change things much.

    I have watched the video and read the correct link. I still don`t see anything that shows the college perpetrated a hoax or coverup.
  51. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 1:55 pm
    "White boy....now tell us all how you`re not racist again."

    Can you be racist about your own race? Seriously, I only know young white guys who are trolls like this on the internet, especially when it comes to making comments like the ones made by this troll. So, that`s what forms my guess on the identity. Sue me.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:02 pm
    @kitteh9: Thanks so much!

    @lauriloo: I`ve met lots of white folks who simply HATE white folks! Racists to the core!
    Also Jews who are rabid anti-semites...

    @HolyGod:
    >>Yes, the original crime is still a crime. I agree.
    >>Given the frequency of "false flags" at Oberlin? You`d suspect the Admin might be wary but NOPE! They jump right in EVERY time!
    >>Even after evidence arose that `insiders` may have done it? The Admin still kept up the rhetoric and stayed quiet on the `false flag` possibilities.

    The MSM played up the original reports (naturally, it`s news!) BUT remain silent when it turns out to be FAKED.

    False Flag = Fake (same thing, both are separate crimes however)
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    @HolyGod

    It sounds more libertarian than even you are. They want no structure, no property, no authority.
    I read the intro; it sounds like a weird mix between communism and anarchism. I don`t like it. It scares me.

    No government.
    No private production.
    No wage labor.
    Respect for private property.

    These people think they`ve figured out Utopia.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    "I feel generally unsafe all the time as well as we all should"

    Sucks to be you. I rarely feel unsafe and I travel all over America, Mexico, Caribbean and Europe, entirely on my own as a middle-aged woman. Funny how perspective shapes one`s attitudes about things.

    Note: based on what you just wrote, I was right about you being an "expert" about kkk garb so I don`t know what you`re upset about. Maybe don`t call yourself "Mandingo" and have a rebel flag as an avatar if you don`t like the assumptions people may make about you. Or is "Mandingo" supposed to make me assume you have a huge d.ick?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Perfect now!

    Oh sorry: "purrrfect" :-)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    @HolyGod: My description clearly says "ultra-leftists" and not "blacks" or "womens" or whatnot... just thought I`d mention...

    "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" ring a bell for you?
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    HumanAction

    "These people think they`ve figured out Utopia."

    Just dumb know-it-all college kids with tons of theory and no reality. It sounds like a good idea, but human nature invalidates its basic premise.

    Socialism is NOT an authoritarian ideal, it is just the way we associate it because of the authoritarian leaders that have installed it and the way it has become a dirty word in this country.

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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    Is there some sort cat-block I can install in my browser to block annoying comments from obsessive morons the way I block ads?
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:31 pm
    the mistake i am refering to was the woman "someone dressed in clan garb" "mistake"
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    HolyGod-"Hateful s.hit was done."

    Faux-hateful s.hit was done, by people trying to blame in on others and trying to act like `victims`.

    THAT`S why it`s hoax.

    HolyGod-"If I spray paint "LYNCH ALL N.IGGERS!" across the lincoln memorial does it make it less of a story if I say I was just kidding afterward?"

    If you spray paint it because you actually want to lynch people, you are a racist.

    If you spray paint it to blame others and cause race baiting, you`re MasterBaiter.

    HolyGod=-"The media reported that it happened."

    The media reported that Racist things were done by Racist People. In reality Racist Things were done by Race Baiters (who are probably racist, but in the other direction).
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    August 28, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    mandingo

    "the mistake i am refering to was the woman "someone dressed in clan garb" "mistake""

    So you are asking me if something done by accident is the same as something done on purpose?

    I don`t know, but my daughter will be home from kindergarten in an hour. I`ll see if she can explain it to you.
  62. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 2:40 pm
    MeGrendel

    "Faux-hateful s.hit was done, by people trying to blame in on others and trying to act like `victims`."

    Where did it say that the two boys who did it blamed it on anyone or tried to act like victims?

    I feel like you keep making things up in your head about what happened, just like how they were black kids that got away scott free, instead of white kids who got kicked out of school.
  63. Profile photo of drawman61
    drawman61 Male 50-59
    7707 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    @HG, `heads should roll` was clearly meant for the cronies that run the place who KNEW there was no basis to this story but perpetuated it anyway for their own agenda.
    And as others have been trying to tell you, it was the `black` girl that claimed to see someone in a klan outfit. She isn`t white as far as I can see. Could you mistake someone wrapped in a blanket for a klan member? Only if they had your dunces hat on as well.
  64. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5877 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 3:38 pm
    HolyGod-"Where did it say that the two boys who did it blamed it on anyone or tried to act like victims?"

    Let`s see, Dylan Bleier (a student worker for Obama`s Organizing for Action and a member of the Oberlin College Democrats) spray-painted anti-black and anti-gay graffiti, swastikas, attempted to circulate anti-muslim fliers and harrassed a female student using a fake account.

    Either he`s a rabid racist, homophobic tea-bagger that just happens to be deep undercover in the democrat and Organizing for Action groups.....or he utilized a well-known liberal tactic of race-baiting.

    Someone who has deep convictions against racism does not do such as a `joke`. He was fabricating a cause.

    The fact that you seem okay with this speaks loads.
  65. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    MegRendel

    "The fact that you seem okay with this speaks loads."

    What the f.uck are you talking about? I`ve said at least 3 times on here that whoever did it should be punished and I condemned their actions.
  66. Profile photo of djwajda
    djwajda Male 40-49
    885 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    Maybe, just maybe if the school administration that knew full well this was a hoax had gone on public record and stated such it wouldn`t be being argued about right now. Instead they let it get blown up into something it didn`t need to be.

  67. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:05 pm
    Is there some sort cat-block I can install in my browser to block annoying comments from obsessive morons the way I block ads?

    No.

    @HolyGod: For a guy who "doesn`t talk to @5Cats" you SURE SPEND a lot of time talking ABOUT @5Cats!
    Yet you accuse HIM of being obsessed with YOU?
    Funny, that.

    See? HE treats YOU just like anyone else at IAB.
    Equals.
    YOU treat HIM with "special rules".

    JUST LIKE A LIBERAL!

    "ONE rule for Liberals! ANOTHER rule for others!"

    BUT! That`s YOUR "Golden Rule" eh?

    So grow up already! MAN-UP! Ask your young daughter about who`s being a "bully" in this situation.

    Then STFU. You are BORING! Same "dead horses" get whipped EVERY SINGLE TIME!

    Everyone sees you talking out the side of your mouth. You aren`t fooling anyone but yourself...
  68. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:10 pm
    the mistake i am refering to was the woman "someone dressed in clan garb" "mistake"
    @mandingo3519: I haven`t "jumped in" on your behalf because: You`re doing fine on your own bro! :-)
    @Lauriloo`s CHEAP SHOT almost evoked my wrath though.

    You are exactly, 100% correct: It was a "trivial event" which was BLOWN out of all reasonable proportions by HYSTERIA. A woman in a blanket = KKK? BZZT! Not in reality folks!

    BUT Oberlin is FAR FROM reality! LOLZ!

    @djwajda: EXACTLY! +1 Internets for you!

    But even to THIS DAY the Administration defends their "hyper-reaction" as justified! Go figure!
  69. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:16 pm
    @My e-mail addy is RIGHT THERE in my profile.

    ANYONE who has a bone to pick with me? There it is!

    Also? Compliments and offers of marriage are welcome too!!!
    Oh yeah!

    *Ahem*

    The COWARDICE displayed by @HolyGod (and some others) is NOT NORMAL for IAB! We as a community are BETTER than them!

    Carry on. Thx!

    To this posting? I`ve gotten less than 3 direct contacts from IABers. I`ve welcomed them all! Disregardless of our "on line" agreements or conflicts.

    People like @HolyGod, @Baalthy and @madest (among others) are ALL TALK, no substance, no action, period.

    Sorry. If @FancyLad OR @The_Mods request that I retract this? I will.

    Meanwhile? I will continue to... BE MYSELF! >^..^<
  70. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm
    Jesus F.ucking Christ.

    Get a life.
  71. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:20 pm
    Notes:
    #1 CHRIST! My intestines are KILLING ME!
    (I may be a bit more grumpy than usual)

    #2 IT`S HOOOOT!
    (Heat waves make me sick! Er, sicker?)

    #3 I really am tired of @HolyGod`s TWO-FACED crap.

    Man-up or shut up, boy!

    I`ve met several IABers head on and win? lose? I don`t care! As long as MUTULA RESPECT was had? I`m happy.

    But I`ve honestly lost ALL respect for you @HolyGod. Well, almost all! There`s still some hope of YOUR redemption or I wouldn`t bother mentioning it.

    Like... @StarShimmer (or whatever his name was... long-ago BANNED! lolz!)
  72. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    Jesus F.ucking Christ.

    HAHAHAHAAA!

    He spoke directly to me!

    By swearing at me...

    While I invoked Christ`s mercy?

    HE F*CKED CHRIST!

    Typical of YOU @HolyGod, yes?

    So PUT UP or STFU! It`s YOUR LIFE baby! I could not care less if I tried.
  73. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:33 pm
    I can`t handle your paticular brand of moronic insanity. It literally ruins this site for me.

    Man-up about WHAT? Do you really think you are smarter then me? OK. Believe whatever you want. I honestly don`t care.

    Here:

    You win every past and future disagreement we have ever had.

    Now please leave me the f.uck alone.
  74. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:33 pm
    5Cats

    "I`ve met several IABers head on and win? lose? I don`t care! As long as MUTULA RESPECT was had? I`m happy. But I`ve honestly lost ALL respect for you @HolyGod. Well, almost all!"

    Fine. Let`s talk. Since you seem so desperate to.

    The last time we got into it months ago some mods politely asked me to leave you alone because they felt bad for you, so I have.

    Stop trying to engage me. You are the only person on this site that I have NO interest in talking to. You drag me into your sad, pathetic, craziness and we end up arguing over what "is" is.

    Like where you say:

    "They were women... aren`t you paying attention?"

    Then when I tell you they were guys you respond with:

    "@HolyGod: My description clearly says "ultra-leftists" and not "blacks" or "womens" or whatnot... just thought I`d mention... The Boy Who Cried Wolf" ring a bell for you?"
  75. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:34 pm
    Sorry: less than 5.
    1 unsolicited
    1 relating to IAB
    1 or 2 because I asked for contact (cannot remember exactly!)

    So: I`ve had my e-mail addy there from DAY ONE!

    Just for the record.

    @HolyGod has played his PATHETIC GAME for a while now, but NEVER ONCE attempted to contact me directly.

    What does that say about... HIM?

    Honestly? I don`t know. But I have several theories and none of them are very nice! So I`ll keep them to myself!
    Meanwhile? @HolyGod feels free to SLANDER anyone he likes on IAB! Well, that`s the way things are!

    I: DEAL WITH IT.
    He: WHINES ABOUT IT.

    I`ve refreained MANY MANY MANY times from commenting about @HolyGod because I respected his wish to NOT talk with me.

    But HOW can I overlook his DIRECT ASSAULTS ON ME?

    Seriously? WHO is obsessed with WHOM here?
  76. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:40 pm
    Do you really think you are smarter then me?
    Change the topic? typical!

    "THAN me" is correct, actually... FYI...

    You win every past and future disagreement we have ever had.
    No, not "every one" but most of them? Yeah!

    Now please leave me the f.uck alone.
    I do. I already do. Wait, YOU accused ME of having a "persecution complex" yes? OH! The IRONY!

    ...they were women...

    MY BAD! In several previous Oberlin Fakes the culprits were females. I wasn`t SURE if the ones in this case were two males OR two males and some others. It just isn`t clear to me yet, as the Administration is SERIOUSLY NOT releasing details. Correct?
    So: my bad on that DETAIL.

    Since you seem so desperate to.
    Ah projection! It`s a lovely thing!
    I`m just tied of YOUR ABUSE!
    Get it?
    YOU are abusing ME and I`m SICK of it!

  77. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm
    David

    "@HolyGod has played his PATHETIC GAME for a while now, but NEVER ONCE attempted to contact me directly."

    WHY the f.uck would I contact you directly? You mean NOTHING to me. You are a mild annoyance on a site I spend time on. I just assumed you`d eventually leave me alone. I have NO interest in talking with you.

    "I`ve refreained MANY MANY MANY times from commenting about @HolyGod because I respected his wish to NOT talk with me."

    OK. Whatever meds you are, up them significantly. Either you are trying to troll me or you are seriously out of your head. You`ve "respected my wishes to not talk with you"?

    Do you seriously need a list of the dozens and dozens and DOZENS of comments you make directly to me in pretty much EVERY thread I comment in?

    As I said before. You win. Forever. Good job. Stop trying to talk to me.
  78. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:47 pm
    some mods politely asked me to leave you alone
    Odd, that!
    See: several Mods have contacted me in the past, and YES I deserved every criticism I got!

    However: How does it "compute" in your world that YOU were contacted to "leave @5Cats alone" while I was... not?

    I`m NOT trying to speak for the IAB Team here! I hope that is self evident!

    But YOU got warned... and I did not...

    So MAN UP!
    Admit you mistakes! Not to me! You YOURSELF!
    That`s hard! I know it!

    Then if you want to ignore me? DO SO!
    GO AHEAD!
    HAVE FUN!
    I DON`T CARE!
    LOOK! CAPITAL LETTERS!
    GET THE POINT!??!

    You are freaking me out with your stalking! I honestly wish you would do one of the following:

    "Man up" and talk directly to me if you have a problem.
    "STFU" and DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU`RE DOING and that is NOT COMMENT ABOUT ME!
    K?
  79. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:50 pm
    David

    ""THAN me" is correct, actually... FYI... "

    No s.hit. I fixed it but you had already commented so I deleted the fix and kept the old one.

    Pointing s.hit like that out is so retarded. I didn`t point out "MUTULA RESPECT" or any of your other spelling and grammatical errors because that is pathetic.

    "I do. I already do."

    You can`t possibly believe this can you? You are aware that you have probably directed at least 100 comments at me since I stopped talking directly with you right? DO you actually not think so?
  80. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:51 pm
    David

    " I wasn`t SURE if the ones in this case were two males OR two males and some others. It just isn`t clear to me yet, as the Administration is SERIOUSLY NOT releasing details. Correct?"

    No. It was very specific that they were two boys in your link. The correct one. The point is you said something POINT BLANK and then when I corrected you you said you never said it and called me "the boy who cried wolf". You do s.hit like that constantly and that is why I can`t stand talking to you.

    It is like arguing over what color the sky is.
  81. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:53 pm
    Do you seriously need a list of the dozens and dozens and DOZENS of comments you make directly to me...
    Oh?
    "tit for tat"?
    Is THAT how you`d like it to go?

    YOU have commented on MY threads!
    YOU have NAMED ME on UNRELATED THREADS!

    Lets let that sink in for a moment...

    YOU (who claims to ignore me) have not only MENTIONED ME in ENTIRELY UNREALTED threads... but done so BY NAME!

    YOU could stop this in ONE SECOND by SHUTTING UP!
    It worked for @madest!
    It worked for @Baalthy!
    It didn`t work for others because they got BANHAMMERED for things entirely UNRELATED to me!
    And that`s the truth.

    Go away! Stop talking ABOUT me!
    WHAT POSSIBLE response do you expect when you CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT ME????

    Eventually? I`m going to REPLY!
    Look up the word "reply" (or respond) ok?
  82. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:54 pm
    David

    "How does it "compute" in your world that YOU were contacted to "leave @5Cats alone" while I was... not?"

    I wasn`t in trouble. They asked me because they felt bad for you, if you must know. That is why I stopped talking to you.
  83. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    No s.hit. I fixed it but you had already commented so I deleted the fix and kept the old one.
    It was a "joke" on my part.
    I would have put a happy face there :-)
    BUT! A @Mod has previously criticized me for using too many happy faces, so I`ve cut down.
    Gospel truth.

    Pointing s.hit like that out is so retarded. I didn`t point out "MUTULA RESPECT"
    Jesus Almighty. I honestly HOPED you wouldn`t be a DICK about a TYPO.
    You... couldn`t figure out what I was saying?
    Mr.Mensa.Member?
    So sorry.

    {quote]You can`t possibly believe this can you?
    I can believe it because I know it for a fact. I KNOW it`s true! I`ve MANY MANY MANY (see? three of them!) times wanted to put my two pennies in... but didn`t because:
    #1 You don`t want me to
    #2 It would be a waste of time

    I KNOW what I FEEL. How can YOU tell me otherwise? ESP?
  84. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm
    David

    "YOU have commented on MY threads!
    YOU have NAMED ME on UNRELATED THREADS! "

    Yes I comment on your threads. I like talking politics and half of all political posts on here are yours.

    I name you in threads when people ask about the s.hitty right wing spam that gets down-voted but continually posted.

    Tell you what, I will never again mention your name or comment to you if you do the same k?

    I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads. Especially considering on some days your threads are half of IAB.
  85. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    if you must know. That is why I stopped talking to you.

    Actually? If you read what was written in order? I was the one who said I would no longer reply to you "unless you were civil".
    I paraphrase, but it`s the truth.
    YOU THEN informed me how you would IGNORE ME!
    HAHAHA!
    Like I CARE about that?
    But you did it!
    It`s RIGHT OUT of Kindergarten!
    Ask your daughter!

    THEN! THEN!

    You went on a SPREE of talking ABOUT ME on other threads! Saying how happy you were to NOT talk about me! By... talking about me!

    Seriously? That`s psychotic dude.
    I`m honestly glad you don`t know my home address.

    You picked up my first name along the way? THAT is creepers dude!

    Meanwhile?
    I have TRIED to only acknowledge you when you`re being civil.
    OR when you need a "smackdown"
    Or when you deserve a compliment!
    Otherwise? I honestly don`t care. Grow up dude. You need help! I KNOW!
  86. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:08 pm
    Tell you what, I will never again mention your name or comment to you if you do the same k?
    Nope! I refuse!
    I will NEVER live my life by YOUR RULES!
    So F*CK OFF!
    Get it? YOU are the BULLY here! YOU are the ABUSER!

    I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads
    LIAR! YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME!
    For someone to "not see a reason for it"??? YOU DO IT! WTF?

    Especially considering on some days your threads are half of IAB.
    Liar. Just... lies. I`m sick of YOUR LIES @HOLYGOD who chooses to HIDE HIS NAME!

    A restraining order may be in order!
    For someone who NEVER COMMENTS about me? HA! What meds are YOU ON dude? Honestly!

    Tell me your meds, I`ll tell you mine! :heart:
  87. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:11 pm
    My latest e-mails received:

    Local Sluts (junk)
    Local Sluts (junk)
    Manitoba Hydro Newsletter Subscription... WTF!

    OK! That last one is scary!!! I do NOT recall signing up for that!
  88. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:14 pm
    David

    "I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads

    LIAR! YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME!
    For someone to "not see a reason for it"??? YOU DO IT! WTF? "

    Are you f.ucking with me? SERIOUSLY? You have to be right?

    READ WHAT I WROTE:

    "I see NO reason that we CAN`T comment in each other`s threads"

    Meaning we should be able to comment in each other`s thread.

    You are either a moron or a WORLD CLASS long game troll. This s.hit drives me nuts. We can`t ever talk because I have to stop every other comment and correct s.hit like that.
  89. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:25 pm
    *sigh*
    @Stephen:
    (I`ve decided to name you Stephen)
    Here`s the "explanation for idiots" JUST for YOU!!! :smooches:

    "Meaning we should be able to comment in each other`s thread."

    NO!
    #1 YOU cannot dictate to ME my comment pattern! EVER!
    #2 NO! You "ignore me" BUT feel free to slander me openly? And I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLY? Because... that offends you?

    So: YOU can comment... but I cannot!
    Oh! i c! Fair!

    "This s.hit drives me nuts."

    Perhaps your first HONEST post in... months? Yes! YOU have a PROBLEM BOY!
    It just annoys me! Like many others have. YOU are NOTHING special to me. Get it?

    "We can`t ever talk because..."

    But we CAN talk! Here, right now! WE (both of us) are TALKING!
    But what you seem to want (IN MY HUMBLE OPINION) is for YOU to talk and ME to listen.
    Nope! No go! Never going to happen!

    THAT IS HOW I FEEL!
  90. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:29 pm
    David

    "Here`s the "explanation for idiots" JUST for YOU!!!"

    1. You quote me: "I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads "

    2. Then you misread it and accuse me of saying THE EXACT opposite of what I said, calling me a hypocrite.

    3. Then I point out that you clearly misread my comment.

    4. Then you call me the idiot.

    This is what debating you is like. You say something 100%, indisputably false, then when I point it out you attack me and call me stupid. It is insanity.
  91. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:31 pm
    @Stephen:

    You occasionally make great comments!
    You`ve RECENTLY started offering suggestion & posts!
    Good!
    You seem to ME to be a SERIOSLY troubled soul.
    Just MY opinion, ok?

    But I will NEVER accept abuse from ANYONE without a pre-arranged, mutual understanding.
    Ok?
    With safe-words and stuff.

    So take YOUR ABUSE elsewhere. Or MAN-UP and admit to what you clearly are doing!

    Don`t hide behind lies! Don`t pretend black is white! YOU are a bully and an abuser. I do NOT consent!

    That`s a FACT!
    YOUR OPINION is MOOT!

    Ok? I speak to you only because I see a spark of intelligence over there. However? My ability to "reach out to others" is limited. This is not an "open ended offer" ok?

    Get it? No? Hey, that`s life!

  92. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:34 pm
    David

    "#2 NO! You "ignore me" BUT feel free to slander me openly? And I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO REPLY? Because... that offends you?

    So: YOU can comment... but I cannot!
    Oh! i c! Fair!"

    Where do you even get this from?

    How can any human read what I wrote and infer that?

    I`m saying POINT BLANK I will never speak to you or about you, period, ever again. Even when someone asks "why does 5Cats stuff get posted all the time when everyone votes it down?" which is what happened the last time i talked about you. I just ask that you do the same. I see no reason that you need to follow me around arguing with someone who has NO INTEREST in talking to you.
  93. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:37 pm
    Then you misread it and accuse me of saying THE EXACT opposite of what I said...
    Honestly @Stephen? I have NO IDEA what you`re talking about here...

    3. Then I point out >>WRONGLY<< that you clearly misread my comment.

    See the correction? Good.

    It is insanity.
    THIS... is... SPARTA!

    Seriously dude? Omg. I honestly cannot believe the lengths and depths you go to in order to justify your position.

    I`m tired of it! Weary.

    MAN-UP!
    DO WHAT YOU SAY!
    Ignore me? PLEASE DO!

    All you have to do to "end this" is to DO WHAT YOU SAY!
    I have remained 100% true to my word!
    And I will continue to do so WITHOUT CARING WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT!

    Get it yet?
    YOU are obsessed!
    ME? I don`t care!

    Too Much Information: I have WAY MORE important things to worry about than you. Bro.
  94. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:42 pm
    How can any human read what I wrote and infer that?
    You have UTTERLY ignored what I said.
    Par for the course, eh?
    It`s ALL about YOU! yes YOU YOU YOU!

    I will never speak to you or about you, period, ever again.
    *huzza*
    (/sarc)

    Even when someone asks...
    You`ll... remain silent?
    NO!!
    HELLS NO!!!
    NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!!!!!!!!

    Voted Down? Um, so f*cking what? Is IAB a "popularity contest"? Is ONLY THE POPULAR allowed? Is content decided by YOU??? NO??? STFU!!!!

    ...you need to follow me around...
    @Stephen? Projection is a TERRIBLE THING! I suggest you seek help.
  95. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm
    I said: "I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads."

    Do you understand what that statement clearly means? It means it is OK to comment in each other`s threads.

    Then your response is:

    "LIAR! YOU DO IT ALL THE TIME!
    For someone to "not see a reason for it"??? YOU DO IT! WTF? "

    You call me a liar, which I don`t remotely understand where you think I am lying in my statement.

    Then you quote me incorrectly with something that means THE EXACT opposite of what I actually said.

    Then you accuse me of something I just openly admitted that I do and would like to continue to do.

    Do you really not follow this?
  96. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:45 pm
    David

    "Honestly @Stephen? I have NO IDEA what you`re talking about here..."

    See? You don`t understand things and because you don`t understand them you assume the other person is wrong and then you brag about it. It is your M.O.

    I spend half my day trying to explain simple, irrefutable facts to you while you call me a moron because you don`t get it.

    So let`s try again:
  97. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:46 pm
    It literally ruins this site for me.
    Odd! @Stephen I don`t let OTHERS ruin ANYTHING for me!

    I decide on my own! Free will! Independence! Stuff like that there...

    Things, it seems, you can never understand...
  98. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:51 pm
    "I see no reason that we can`t comment in each other`s threads."

    GUESS WHAT! I DO! I DO see a reason! And that reason is: YOU ARE NOT TALKING TO ME!

    YOU!
    Not ME!
    You are not talking "to me" but you slander me freely on the threads?

    WTF?
    What part of "NOT TALKING" do you FAIL to understand?

    You comment ABOUT or DIRECTLY TO ME?
    YOU have voided YOUR WORD!

    Meanwhile?
    I have NO SUCH restrictions!
    I have agreed to NO such thing!
    I can comment all I like!

    SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!

    You are a hypocrite, I am 100% consistent with my word!

    Any questions? This is (for me) an OPEN forum! Anything you say WILL be remembered but NOT "held against you".

    Actually that`s how it is (for me) all the time, eh?

    Blast away!
  99. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 9:52 pm
    See? You don`t understand things...
    Mirror, mirror on the wall...
  100. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:01 pm
    HG: "Either you are trying to troll me or you are seriously out of your head."

    Says the guy that`s trolled me continuously and can`t understand the basics of the Bill of Rights.

    "I can`t handle your paticular brand of moronic insanity."

    When you start typing so fast and furiously that you misspell "particular" and other words, I know you`re not thinking and reacting in knee-jerk fashion.

    Seriously you need to calm down before you get an aneurysm or something. You are notorious for making hyperbolic statements and have to get in the last word.

    5Cats: I`m glad you stood up to him. But you might as well be banging your head up against a wall, he`s that immovable. Even when he knows deep down he`s wrong.
  101. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:04 pm
    David

    All I can do is politely ask you to please not engage me or direct comments to me in any way any more. Obviously I can`t force you not to.

    I will continue to make comments about the content you post if I find it interesting, good or bad, as I hope you will if you find something I post to be worth talking about.

    However, I will not make comments about you, or to you, in your posts or any others.

    I can only follow through with what I am saying and hope you respect my wishes. I wish you the best, even though you drive me nuts. Truly.
  102. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:05 pm
    David

    I know you think I have something against you. I don`t. Honestly. I hope you are happy.

    You also think I auto down-vote you. I have given your submissions 4 star ratings on SEVERAL occasions. You have had some of my all-time favorite posts.

    I just don`t like it when IAB starts to look like Drudge Report. The community votes it down which means the majority don`t like it either. I would think you`d want to post things people actually enjoy.
  103. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:09 pm
    HG: "All I can do is politely ask you to please not engage me or direct comments to me in any way any more."

    Aka, Do as I say and not as I do.

    Sorry, but that is in no way fair. It`s also typical liberal BS. "How dare you criticize me criticizing you!" - Typical liberal on a news show.
  104. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    Crakr

    "Says the guy that`s trolled me continuously and can`t understand the basics of the Bill of Rights."

    I get kinda sick of this conversation too.

    To me a troll is someone who says something they don`t mean JUST to anger someone. I have never said something on here I don`t believe. I understand that my opinion may make you angry but that doesn`t make me a troll.

    You believe in God. I don`t. It isn`t because I`m trying to troll you, truly.

    As far as the bill of rights. I would never say you don`t understand it. I would simply say you have a different interpretation of it than I do. It doesn`t mean you are wrong, just means you are wrong in my opinion. It would be nice if you could make that same distinction.

    Obviously the constitution is not cut and dry. If it were there wouldn`t be so many lawyers that handle only constitutional cases.
  105. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:11 pm
    HG: "I have given your submissions 4 star ratings on SEVERAL occasions. You have had some of my all-time favorite posts."

    Really? Name a few. I`d like to know.
  106. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:12 pm
    Crakr

    "Aka, Do as I say and not as I do. Sorry, but that is in no way fair."

    What does that even mean?

    I just CLEARLY stated: "I will not make comments about you, or to you, in your posts or any others."
  107. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:13 pm
    When you start typing so fast and furiously that you misspell "particular" and other words...
    PFFT! While chastising me for leaving off the letter "l"? = LOLZ!!!! OMG @CrakrJak! You`ve won the thread!

    before you get an aneurysm
    I had one of those! 4 days in the hospital...

    5Cats: I`m glad you stood up to him.
    Thanks man! I learned long ago to NEVER bow down to a bully. And in this case I actually feel pity for him: he`s very sick (In My Opinion! of course) and needs help.

    But there`s limits to my abilities, and they seem to have been reached tonight.

    However, I will not make comments about you, or to you, in your posts or any others.
    @Stephen: Well! ABOUT F*CKING TIME!!! That`s called: Being A Man! Do So!
  108. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:14 pm
    HG: "I have never said something on here I don`t believe."

    Says you, who picked a nickname "HolyGod" and is an atheist.

    That sir is a continuous TROLL and you know it.
  109. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:19 pm
    I would think you`d want to post things people actually enjoy.
    Once again, for (literally!) the 10th time: I SUGGEST ALL SORTS OF STUFF!
    I recently showed you: 6/10 of MY suggestions were: NOT POLITICAL! That`s just those which were posted! By me or others! It`s... a... fact!

    I suggest LOTS of stuff! Ask any Mod!

    You recently started offering suggestions too! Did you notice how I STOPPED ripping on you about having no suggestions? Did you notice my compliments in your posts?

    I wish you the best, even though you drive me nuts. Truly.
    Truly? @Stephen? This is the best thing you`ve said all evening! :-) I honestly think "it`s a fair cop" to tell me nasty things! BUT! Don`t tell ME what I should or should not do! F-U is my reply!
    See? A smiley!
  110. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:20 pm
    HG: "What does that even mean?"

    See, you have no idea of your own bias.

    You tell 5Cats to not comment on your posts, at all.
    But give yourself the out that you`ll continue to comment on his posts, just not mention him personally.

    You don`t see the problem with that?
  111. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:22 pm
    Crakr

    "Really? Name a few. I`d like to know."

    Science, Religion and The Big Bang
    I specifically commented that it was a cool post.

    American Life: 101 Old Photos

    A Motivational Quote From Chris Hadfield

    Are a few recent ones.

    I have also 4 star voted some of his government / political stuff when it didn`t have a raging slant. I recall specifically some awesome graphical representations of the national debt as stacks of cash.

    I THINK he submitted the video of the cat security system with the PVC and confetti, but I`m not sure. That was probably the most entertained I`ve been by anything on IAB.
  112. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    I know you think I have something against you.
    @Stephen: 90% of your comments towards me are horrifically negative. WHERE could I have gotten that idea from?

    The community votes it down which means the majority don`t like it either.
    In all honesty: no intention of sarcasm:
    ONLY the majority should have a voice?

    WHO decides that?

    I have given your submissions 4 star ratings on SEVERAL occasions.
    Well GOOD! I freaking DESERVE IT!
    But overall? There are IAB persons (who may never post) who simply vote "1" on ALL of my offerings. UNSEEN! It`s a FACT! I take that into account in my estimation of my "value" here!!! I love IAB and it`s community. That won`t change based on my "personal popularity".

    That`s from the heart, bro, you`d better appreciate it.
  113. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:25 pm
    Crakr

    "See, you have no idea of your own bias.

    You tell 5Cats to not comment on your posts, at all. But give yourself the out that you`ll continue to comment on his posts, just not mention him personally.

    You don`t see the problem with that?"

    Are you f.ucking with me now too?

    I said I hope he DOES comment on my posts.

    "I will continue to make comments about the content you post if I find it interesting, good or bad, as I hope you will if you find something I post to be worth talking about. "

    "AS I HOPE YOU WILL"

    Do you see how this is frustrating? You are calling me a hypocrite and completely miss-representing what I ACTUALLY said.
  114. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:31 pm
    To me a troll is someone who says something they don`t mean JUST to anger someone. I have never said something on here I don`t believe.
    Honesty Hour At IAB!
    (lolz!)
    Dude! @Stephen! (get used to it! It`s your name now!)
    You HAVE TOTALLY DONE SO!
    Or else? You`re an idiot!
    The choice is yours!
    And yes, "it`s 5Cats` opinion" but guess what? Tough Titties!

    I confess to occasionally "trolling", it`s true!
    But most of the time I got "caught" and willingly confessed! :-) It`s like my childhood! I did bad things, but USUALLY I got caught! LAMO!
    It really encourages me to be an honest adult.

    I just CLEARLY stated: "I will not make comments about you, or to you, in your posts or any others."
    but @Stephen! You`ve said this SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY! Boy Who Cried Wolf? Eh?

  115. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:34 pm
    HG: "All I can do is politely ask you to please not engage me or direct comments to me in any way any more."

    In other words, don`t comment on my posts.
    Even if he wanted to be nice and say "Good post HG" you wouldn`t want that?

    When you rush to type something, in the heat of the moment, often times you write things you really don`t mean. Then you squirm out of it by saying that`s not what you meant. OR you read someone else`s comment to quickly and get their meaning wrong.
  116. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:39 pm
    "I will continue to make comments about the content you post if I find it interesting, good or bad, as I hope you will if you find something I post to be worth talking about.
    In all honesty? I have never once understood this to be your position @Stephen. Nope, not ONCE!
    I`m not saying that`s bad! Heck no!
    The PROBLEM is (for me) when you CLAIM TO DO THIS! When (in my opinion) you have NOT!

    If you did this? = no troubles!
    If you lie about it? = troubles.

    If you say one thing and do another? I`m going to speak up! Even if I agree with you? I`ll still point it out!

    I`ve done so with (for convenient example) @CrakrJak before! And lots of others!

    And @Stephen? Until @FancyLad HIMSELF tells me otherwise? Or you BEG me? That`s your name from now on.

    Honestly? It`s a compliment! You`ve spoken well here tonight and I appreciate it!
  117. Profile photo of HolyGod
    HolyGod Male 30-39
    6195 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:39 pm
    Crakr

    "In other words, don`t comment on my posts."

    No. Not AT ALL what I meant.

    If you feel my comment could be interpreted that way, I don`t disagree. It just isn`t what I meant.

    However, I`d like to think my comment that I hope he will comment on my posts if he wants was completely unambiguous and would overrule your previous interpretation.
  118. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm
    OR you read someone else`s comment to quickly and get their meaning wrong.
    Gosh! That`s never happened to ME!
    *bzzt! bzzt! bzzt!

    Oh heck, by `bullshiite` detector is going off! :-)
  119. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:46 pm
    No. Not AT ALL what I meant.
    Well @Stephen that`s WHAT I READ! It`s what I`ve understood now for a long time to be what YOU are indeed saying!
    So if it`s wrong? YOU need to say it a different way!
    I`m really, honestly keeping my replies short now. Just fyi everyone! My "typical" long-winded rants will have to wait until tomorrow! But I`m glad to keep reading & commenting.

    Ooo, a lack of capital letters and abundance typos may become prolific too...
    my... guts.. hurt!!!
    (NOT an excuse! Just a fact!)
    (I`m an opinionated SOB disregardless of my guts! So there!)
    (Disregardlessly!)
  120. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:51 pm
    However, I`d like to think my comment that I hope he will comment on my posts if he wants was completely unambiguous and would overrule your previous interpretation.

    Point Of Fact: Even if this were true? It DOES NOT change his current opinion, it ONLY affects his future opinion.

    Not saying it`s not true! BUT your statement in NO WAY discredits @CrakrJak`s CURRENT opinion!

    @Stephen: Speaks of the present > future.
    @Crackjak (and ME!): Past > present.

    Different!

    Yeah it sounds all "lawyer-like". Tough! I`m grumpy! Dag-nabbit!
  121. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 10:53 pm
    HG: "If you feel my comment could be interpreted that way, I don`t disagree. It just isn`t what I meant."

    It happens. But I believe absolutism in any conversation leads to things like this. It`s why I avoid words like "Ever, Always, Never and others". Heated conversations often have unintended "absolutes" in them, they are destructive and usually lead to hurtful, more personal, jabs.

    Good conversation is as much an art as an oil painting and I`m still working on improving it myself.
  122. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    Btw, I didn`t enter into this conversation to "pile on", was hoping to help defuse the bomb.

    Was full well expecting verbal haymakers next and that would`ve been bad for both of you.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    If we just got the government out of the student loan business, no banker in his right mind would loan his depositors` money to someone to go to one of these f***tard liberal cesspools.
  124. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:05 pm
    Absolutism: It has it`s place! It`s a very "male" thing!
    There are times when it`s "absolutely" needed!
    (pun intended!)

    HEY TROG! There`s a Saber-tooth tiger right behind you!!!

    NOT:
    Oh my! I don`t wish to alarm you Trog, I know how you feel about...(5 minutes later) ...but there`s one RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!"

    Too late! Trog is history!

    Multiple valid ways of doing things = Conservatism!

    Restrictions? = Liberalism!

    That`s my opinion and... what? Have I wandered off topic again?
    I mean... that`s never happened before!!!
    (*bzzt bzzt!)

    ...and I`m still working on improving it myself.
    You`re doing a fine job my friend!
  125. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:09 pm
    I keep my guard UP!
    I throw a nasty jab!
    My knock out punch? Er... um... I need to work on that!

    Was full well expecting verbal haymakers...

    That`s a "funny" based on this comment! FYI!

    Hi @OldOllie! Yeah, there`s things in the US Education System that could use overhauling! But the Dems are DEAD set against it!

    I actually know persons (NON GENDER SPECIFIC!!!) who attended Oberlin!!!
    :-)
  126. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm
    "Absolutism: It has it`s place!"

    Sometimes it does, "Every blueberry is blue", is an example.

    But when talking about, and to, other people and their behavior, it`s been my experience that no one "ever, always or never" does or says certain things. Better to use words like "sometimes, usually, rarely, etc...".
  127. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:18 pm
    "I actually know persons (NON GENDER SPECIFIC!!!)..."

    They haven`t chosen a gender identity yet?

    hehe ;-)
  128. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 28, 2013 at 11:26 pm
    They haven`t chosen a gender identity yet?

    Actually? He/she had chosen "none of the above" :-)

    Ok, she was "born female" and I liked her quite a lot! Lesbian, uber-liberal? Didn`t matter in an on-line friendship! I met her... him... um... that person: IN person! Nice! Sadly the on-line community were had in common fell to pieces. I still wish "him/her" all the best!

    It`s... complicated! But I honestly don`t hold a person`s "gender identification" against them!

    Try explaining THAT to the liberals! Pfft!
  129. Profile photo of lauriloo
    lauriloo Female 40-49
    1803 posts
    August 29, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    "Absolutism: It has it`s place! It`s a very "male" thing!"

    SO true. That`s why I rarely take any "fact" a man tells me at face value because in my experience, men will talk with absolute certainty about subjects they actually know very little about. I, on the other hand, will preface a statement I`m not 100% sure about with "I believe this to be true" to give the person an indication that they might want to get more information to be sure before they act on it. Can`t number how often a man has given me bad information they told me as if it was absolutely, without doubt, correct. Soooo annoying. Just admit you don`t know something! It`s not a bad thing.
  130. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    August 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm
    @lauriloo: When I was married? I`d say "I don`t know for sure, but..." quite a lot! Like you say, my wife would get very upset when my "opinions" came across as "expert knowledge" so I tried to make a clear distinction :-)

    12 HOURS OF SLEEP LATER! (took 16 hours to get it though)

    My guts feel MUCH better! I had some abdominal muscle spasms = GOOD! That usually indicates a spell of `happy intestines`! After 2 months of `evil innards`? I could use a break!

    It has also cooled off, temperature-wise, with normal temps predicted for the coming week!

    Just thought I`d share some good news, for a change!

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