Climate Name Change

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Most Effective Way To Deal With People Who Ignore Science Facts
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Male 36,543
[quote]should not include weapons capable of mass genocide...[/quote]
There he goes! Flogging those dead horses again!

@Stephen? (HolyGod`s new name) WHO EVER said citizens should own "weapons of genocide"??? NO ONE is who! A semi-auto with a 20 round clip is no more useful in GENOCIDE than a dozen other weapons. Many of which are HOME MADE (like pipe bombs).

I`m glad you`ve noticed that the "AGW `facts`" are indeed `skewed` (to put it politely!) though. That`s some improvement.

@Gauddith: If EVERY human in Canada reduced their "greenhouse gas emissions" (which includes "carbon") to ZERO? It would...

NOT MATTER!

Less than 0.01% by the year 2100!

And that`s to ZERO! Not "within 95% of 1996 rates" which is like spitting in the ocean. ANY ocean! Take your pick!

So why should Canada RUIN it`s economy to save... NOTHING? Serious question.
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Male 15,832
HG, go back and read the quote. What you claim was not the statement I was contradicting. The earth`s temperature has been going up and down like a yo-yo for millions of years.

We`re not causing it, we can`t stop it, and I`ll be damned if I`m going to let a bunch of lying liberal fascist hucksters and their f***tard minions use it as a pretext to boss me around and take my stuff, which is exactly what the global warming hoax is all about.
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Female 2,415
I knew this post would get most everyone`s panties in a bunch!! :D
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Male 2,850
@MeGrendel

You`re absolutely right; we will get decent, viable electric cars, or something like it. At the moment they`re like old 80s phones: expensive and inconvenient, useful only for niche enthusiasts and as toys for the wealthy. but you only need to look in our pockets to see that technology progresses and reaches the masses in a useful way. And you`re right; usually, the bogeyman isn`t needed to make that happen.

But for electric cars, things are a little different: the bogeyman is a big part of why electric cars are a something we want to acheive in the first place. Climate change aside, they have the potential to be cleaner and more energy efficient. Their appeal is still largely for their environmental benefits.

Anyway, climate change will just make things a little pricier for us in the developed world. We`re not going to suffer the droughts and floods and famines. We really can`t complain.
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Male 7,363
Musuko42-"The States would never have landed on the moon in such a short period of time were they not fearing the Soviets breathing down their neck."

While I believe the entire space program was a great idea and we`ve benefited from it immensely, the Moon Race was basically Bigger Dick Foreign Policy at its finest.

Musuko42-"seem to need a boogeyman to motivate them to do anything."

Not always. And the difference is that, while I would LIKE a viable electric car, at the moment there is no real NEED for it. Contrary to popular belief, we`re not about to run out of oil. Also contrary to popular belief, with our current eletric infrastructure and manufacturing methods, building and operating an electric vehicle does nothing to reduce emmisions.
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Male 2,850
@MeGrendel

"I can`t wait for my first VIABLE electric car. Craploads of torque and fewer moving part. But don`t bring out the boogie-man to make it so"

The States would never have landed on the moon in such a short period of time were they not fearing the Soviets breathing down their neck.

Americans, and humans in general, seem to need a boogeyman to motivate them to do anything.
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Male 7,926
OldOllie

"No, it isn`t."

Look, we can debate if the increase is significant.
We can debate if it will have any affects.
We can debate whether it is due to humans.
However, the fact that the Earth is getting warmer is not up for debate. That is simply a fact. The average temperature on Earth has gone up over a degree in your lifetime.
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Male 15,832
[quote]Problem: The earth is getting warmer, entering dangerous levels of deforestation and toxic gasses in urban areas.[/quote]
No, it isn`t. That`s just a pretext for liberals to be able to boss you around and take your stuff. Don`t fall for it.
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Male 7,926
Crakr

"So to sell more turbines, the outlets they own actively promote the "Global Warming" hoax every chance they get."

Are you aware that GE has an Oil and Gas division that accounts for WAY more revenue than wind turbines do?
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Female 231
@CrakrJak
Wind turbines suck, so do oceanic water turbines. But I`m sure we can do better. Science is pretty cool after all.
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Female 231
@Grendal, It seems the whole reason you debate is political, I agree using the end days as scare tactics is stupid, but this isn`t about politics it`s about human health in urban areas.

@Andrew, I am? I want you to know I do not think the world is going to end, I do not think we are killing the planet, and I do not think that we are the sole, or largest, cause of "global warming" But I do believe we are contributing to it, and I also feel like we should be working to find alternative solutions to reduce waste and chemical production.

All I`m really saying is that you don`t need to care about global warming to be more clean and efficient. Do it because it`s worth being able to preserve the land we are using.

Don`t toss the blame on someone else, don`t deny because you hate the "other guys", and don`t spew out doctored facts to scare people. Fear mongering is bad, always will be, inspire action instead.
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Male 17,512
"Just because someone doesn`t believe Al Gore`s Snake-oil salespitch does not make one a `Slob`, just more intelligent than the dumb masses."

Agreed, but I wouldn`t call most of them dumb, just horribly misled by a liberal media in cahoots with the "green" cabal.

It`s amazing how many people have no idea that GE, the maker of a lot of wind turbine generators, owns MSNBC, NBC Universal, Comcast, The Weather Channel, Hulu, USA Network, Syfy and others. So to sell more turbines, the outlets they own actively promote the "Global Warming" hoax every chance they get.
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Male 2,578
Gauddith is evidence of why we can`t talk about this with level heads.


However, I`m going to drop my own bomb here. If all that alarmism is accurate, and disaster is that impending, it all doesn`t really matter if we cut emissions by 5, 10, or 50%. We simply have too many people. With such dire predictions they have, only genocide is the solution. The Western world has less than a billion people. What about the billion in India and the billion and a half that live in China that want to live like the West? Or what about the billion in Africa? What about the billion in Africa that will grow to 4 billion by 2100? Nigeria will have more people than America by 2050.

So, basically, start there, not here, if disaster is so impending. I actually think I stumbled upon the next major genocide as well as the justification that will be used.
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Male 7,363
Gauddith-"Suck it up and stop being a slob."

Slob? I recycle, I drive fuel efficient cars/trucks, I leave nature cleaner than I found it.. My job is to develop & manufacture chemicals that CLEAN the water you drink and minimize the amount of material that goes into landfills. The water treatment solutions we make pass NSF, Kosher & Halal standards. (It`s rather fun to watch a Rabi bless a chemical reactor).

Just because someone doesn`t believe Al Gore`s Snake-oil salespitch does not make one a `Slob`, just more intelligent that the dumb masses.
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Male 7,363
Gauddith-"not wanting to live in our own waste"

I don`t live in my own waste, nor anyone elses. Increasing my taxes is not going to change that.

Gauddith-"Quality of life over desire to use"

I`m all for quality of life. If that`s what you want it, say so. Don`t scare-monger with made-up crap to accomplish it.

Gauddith-"Clean energy and proper recycling are going to be the future"

All good things. I can`t wait for my first VIABLE electric car. Craploads of torque and fewer moving part.

But don`t bring out the boogie-man to make it so.
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Male 12,365
[quote] I`m not gonna say one way or another, but what I can say is that I think it is the height of human arrogance that we assume we are so important and powerful that we are able to change the entire planetary ecosystem[/quote]

Well that`s just plain wrong, because we already have.

Humans are extremely powerful. More precisely, the combination of human technology and force of numbers is extremely powerful.

Humans have the ability to make the entire planet uninhabitable by almost all living things (I`m allowing for the probability of extremophiles that can survive in almost any circumstances).

Humans have the ability to terraform another planet (only just and it`s untested, but it`s possible).

It might be comforting to think that humanity is too powerless to do anything much, but it`s a false comfort.
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Female 231
Problem: The earth is getting warmer, entering dangerous levels of deforestation and toxic gasses in urban areas.

Solution: Blame the opposing party, shout words of conspiracy, deny, deny, deny, deny.
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Why the hell are we even at this? Hey Grendle and others, this isn`t a matter of the world ending, instead, it`s a matter of not wanting to live in our own waste. Quality of life over desire to use. We have alternatives that require experimentation and development to achieve efficiency/cost balancing. Clean energy and proper recycling are going to be the future, it`s going to happen, just like human rights these things are the path that humanity is going down. Live and let live, it literally only helps you. Suck it up and stop being a slob. c:
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Male 12,365
[quote]@MeGrendel LOL...no one thought the earth was flat...Especially scientists who calculated the curve of the earth as early as 3rd century BC. That would be 5000 years before today.[/quote]

It was a bit more than 2200 years ago and it was one scientist. Eratosthenes calculated the size of the Earth with a good degree of accuracy using only 2 sticks and his intellect. He also calculated the distances between the earth and the moon, sun and stars. His answers were inaccurate because he couldn`t make accurate enough measurements with nothing more than his eyes, but his methods were sound.

But scientists before him had proven that the earth isn`t flat. The earliest known formal proof used multiple observations of the shadow of the earth on the moon - it`s always an arc of a circle, regardless of the angle, which proved that it`s a sphere. It`s a slightly oblate spheroid, but you can`t observe the variation in the shadow by eye.

Awesome work for the iron
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Male 7,926
McGovern

"Observe them squander our money over the same old s**t in Syria a place where both sides want to kill us all. Why should we support a people who refuse to support themselves again?"

You are blaming that solely on democrats?

That is America. That is the Military Industrial Complex.

Do you really think we wouldn`t be talking about Syria if Romney was president?
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Male 2,850
@MeGrendel

"Sailors knew well before any scientist that the Earth was a globe, and not flat."

Nobody thought it was flat, scientists included.

Myth of the flat earth
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Male 7,926
McGovern

"ROFL!!! Holy thinks democrats give a f**k about that."

I didn`t say those were democratic beliefs. I said they were my personal beliefs. The ones I have shared on here that leave some of you to believe I am ultra-liberal. I don`t identify as a democrat. I don`t vote a straight party ticket.
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Male 14,330
[quote]The things I`m liberal about like believing healthcare is a basic human right, thinking it is more important for the needy to receive help than for rich people to have lower taxes, and thinking that the right to protect yourself should not include weapons capable of mass genocide are moral positions. They are not something you can learn or unlearn based on any data.[/quote]


ROFL!!! Holy thinks democrats give a f**k about that. Observe them squander our money over the same old s**t in Syria a place where both sides want to kill us all. Why should we support a people who refuse to support themselves again?
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Male 7,926
Crakr

"Good you`re learning. Now learn that most of the rest of that liberal BS you`ve been spoon fed is wrong too."

The things I`m liberal about like believing healthcare is a basic human right, thinking it is more important for the needy to receive help than for rich people to have lower taxes, and thinking that the right to protect yourself should not include weapons capable of mass genocide are moral positions. They are not something you can learn or unlearn based on any data.
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Male 15,832
Nothing but fascist liberal f***tard bull$#!+. "Global warming" or "climate change" or whatever they`re calling it this week, is nothing but a fraudulent pretext to boss people around and take their stuff.
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Male 7,363
onoffonoffon-"because there is nothing the gov can or should do about it."

Shhhh...don`t say that out loud. THEY know that...but they can`t use it as an excuse to redistribute wealth and tax everyone to death if the dumb voters realized it.
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Male 17,512
HG: "I remember thinking strong hurricanes were a sure fire example of climate change. I went out to prove it. Found stats that hurricane / severity isn`t any higher now then it was in the 20s or 30s."

Good you`re learning. Now learn that most of the rest of that liberal BS you`ve been spoon fed is wrong too.
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Male 22
@MeGrendel LOL...no one thought the earth was flat...Especially scientists who calculated the curve of the earth as early as 3rd century BC. That would be 5000 years before today.

The myth was started by Protestants to fight Catholics. "The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper`s History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science"

Link system giving me errors: Myth of the Flat Earth on Wiki.
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Male 308
It`s interesting how this video just makes the assumption that climate change is man made, there is no room for debate on that. I`m not gonna say one way or another, but what I can say is that I think it is the height of human arrogance that we assume we are so important and powerful that we are able to change the entire planetary ecosystem and even more arrogant, that we can fix it... more than 98% of the species that ever existed on the planet have gone extinct... yet somehow we think we can over-rule mother nature, darwin, or whatever, and save the triple-peckered owl.
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Male 2,357
@djwajda

Cool link - thanks. There were some pretty hefty titles attached to those signatures.
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Male 7,363
Musuko42-"You look at that cartoon and see science getting it constantly wrong. "

No, I look at that cartoon and see claims that `scientists` made about things that EVEN AT THE TIME were easily proven wrong.

Sailors knew well before any scientist that the Earth was a globe, and not flat.

I`m all for the scientific method. It works great. As a Chemist I understand this.

You`re under the impression that the Global Alarmist are actually USING the scientific method.
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Male 7,775
That would be awesome.
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Male 2,850
@MeGrendel

You look at that cartoon and see science getting it constantly wrong.

I look at that cartoon and see how science has consistantly corrected all those incorrect things, taking us closer and closer to truth and understanding with every step.

Would you like to propose an alternative that has a better proven track record? Feel free to suggest a better method. Your peers will then test your suggested method and, if it`s shown to be better, will adopt it. Bingo, the scientific method in action.
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Male 883
This is a good read...

No need to panic
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Male 2,850
@nucnik

"I love how they had to change the name to "climate change" because the original global warming theory went belly up."

They are two seperate things (global warming is part of climate change), and both are occurring. Ten seconds on Wikipedia would have told you this. Your ignorance is willful.

"Within scientific journals, global warming refers to surface temperature increases while climate change includes global warming and everything else that increasing greenhouse gas levels will affect."
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Male 257
sigh, climate is a dynamic system, if it ever becomes static, then we are somewhat fekked.
besides, james lovelock (gaia theory) told us not to worry, it`s not like we can actually do anything about it.
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Male 7,363
Andrew155-"The US is undergoing its longest period without a major hurricane strike. We`ve been quite dumbed down into believing that a Cat 2 is a major hurricane."

The deadlist thing of any hurricane is Apathy. This is what happened in New OrleanS during Katrina. Individually, they`d never been hit by a serious storm, so `obviously` Katrina would be the same. They bet wrong.

Personally, I dont`t care if it`s been decades since a bad storm, if my house was below sea level, my ass would have evacuated. (as we did for Katrina, and Ivan).
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Male 85
I love how they had to change the name to "climate change" because the original global warming theory went belly up.
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Male 1,803
Andrew155

The US is undergoing its longest period without a major hurricane strike. We`ve been quite dumbed down into believing that a Cat 2 is a major hurricane.

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Yeah, we had that in the UK with snow, got a decade with practically nothing. Then when it came back, holy crap. You can never be too careful with `canes.
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Male 14,775
This is spot on.

I would add deny medical care to people unwilling to accept evolution.
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Male 1,803
Far North Queensland also is hurricane prone (though they call them cyclones). They follow the same 5 stage category system that pretty much everyone else does.

Cat 1: A FNQ`er will do nothing.
Cat 2: A FNQ`er will check what it`s up to every 24 hrs, otherwise do nothing.
Cat 3: A FNQ`er will go get some boards for the windows and some batteries for the radio + toss the garden furniture in the pool.
Cat 4: A FNQ`er will dispatch the missus and offspring in the ute to get out of its way. And then find a cyclone party.
Cat 5: Even a FNQ`er will leave.
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Male 2,578
It depends where it hits on how much damage it does. Obviously a Cat 1 to NYC will do more damage than a Cat 5 to the Everglades, but that`s just a result of us building more stuff in vulnerable places.

I was actually in a Tropical Storm this season, one of the six. I went out jogging because it was nice for the temperature. I got sprinkled on though :(

But really, no. Category 1 and 2 hurricanes are not major. They`re almost never a major problem. And the deaths are usually people who were driving, or something that`s ill-advised. Sure, if you have a beach front property, you`ll be hosed. But what did you expect?
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Male 7,363

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Male 7,363
Global Warming -noun- \ˈglo-bəl worm-ing\: A political phenomenonn where undesirable, though natural, climatic cycles coincide with liberal aspirations.

Also see: Al Gore, DNC, Brainwashing.
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Male 2,390
@Andrew - I`ve seen Cat 2`s and TS/TD`s that have come in and done just as much if not more damage as a quick moving Cat 3. Any hurricane is major.
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Male 2,578
It`s not that effective on account that it`s really dumb.


After Al Gore just kind of guessed that we would have more hurricanes, we have had a precipitous drop in hurricanes. We haven`t had a single Category 5 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean since 2007, and it`s almost September now and there have been zero hurricanes in the entire Atlantic Ocean. Not even Cat 1.

Obama has had the fewest Hurricane strikes of any president

The US is undergoing its longest period without a major hurricane strike. We`ve been quite dumbed down into believing that a Cat 2 is a major hurricane.
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Male 7,926
Funny vid / concept.

However, this is kinda weird timing considering there haven`t been any significant hurricanes this year.

I remember thinking strong hurricanes were a sure fire example of climate change. I went out to prove it. Found stats that hurricane / severity isn`t any higher now then it was in the 20s or 30s.

tinyurl.com/2trdrd
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Female 2,764
I stand behind this.
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Male 1,284
Link: Climate Name Change [Rate Link] - Most Effective Way To Deal With People Who Ignore Science Facts
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