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  1. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 21, 2013 at 2:52 pm
    Link: Christian Nation: A Novel - Could a Sarah Palin presidency spark a faith-based civil war in America? (Not kidding)
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 21, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    Is there not currently a faith-based civil war in America?
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    Bravosmith Male 30-39
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    August 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    This is a rhetorical response to the recent popularity of George Orwell`s book 1984. The difference is, in 1984 Socialism is the root of evil. With the rise of Socialism in America, it only makes sense to attack Conservatives in an effort for long term "re-education"... kinda like what Orwell said would happen in his book! Open your eyes America! Before its too late...
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    August 21, 2013 at 3:20 pm
    I agree, SmagBoy1... already a war.

    Oh, also, Palin will never run for office again. Even if she did, she wouldn`t win the Republican ticket.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    Palin spearheading a fundamentalist takeover of America? Oh, please.

    Bachmann, on the other hand, with her nutty dominionism...
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    leftist "fapping fodder" at it`s finest!

    Just ignore what the Democrats have ACTUALLY DONE for the past 5 years and PRETEND Sarah Palin would do worse things!
    Of course John McCain is still alive & well...

    Because this book will be taken literally by so many leftists? I weep for the USA`s future.

    Oh look! @SmagBoy1`s comment confirms my sorrow!

    Yes there IS @SmagBoy1! Obama & the Democrats VS everyone else! Worship BHO or die!

    HUGE EXERT HERE So you can sample this masterpiece for yourself!

    Study guide! With Video Trailer! (not kidding!)
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    USA Today Review Here

    "But as a novel, Christian Nation falls flat. Its characters, both fictional and real-life politicians, are mere plot devices who give speeches."

    Remember: this `novel` is set in the year 2029! It`s Science Fiction ffs...

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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm
    5Cats, Democrats don`t make laws that discriminate. They don`t make laws based on one specific religion. As for things being worse off, things as *significantly* better then when BHO took office! What do you means worse? The market is up, way up. Industrial and production indexes have improved every quarter for the last seven quarters. Real estate is up from it`s low point in 2008 in every single major market. Unemployment is down, income is up and BHO has seen the ACA passed, DOMA defeated, signed presidential orders mandated fair treatment of homosexual partners in hospital visitation and health advocacy, has pulled the vast majority of troops out of Iraq and many out of Afghanistan.

    Has he been perfect? No. Not at all. But he`s done a great deal of good. You forget how bad it was.
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    Nageki Male 30-39
    110 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    I`m going to say this one more time, I will probably be deleted quickly, but I don`t care. @5cats, why do you care about American politics so much when you`re a Canadian? I`ve never understood that... Canada is way more liberal than the US. Even more liberal than the US liberals I`d say...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    There is no "faith-based civil war" in America. That`s not to say there is no media battle for the predominate culture in America, because there is.

    There will never be an actual "Civil War" in America again. I believe we learned our lesson about that 150 years ago.

    Besides, we`ve gone through these cultural swings before and will continue to. After this last hard swing to left has failed miserably, I do suspect they`ll be a swing back to the right soon.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 21, 2013 at 4:13 pm
    I will probably be deleted quickly...
    Not at all @Nageki! I`ve been asked (accused!) that a dozen times!
    I care because everything the USA does? It effects Canada a LOT!
    The USA is the 500 pound gorilla we Canadians live next to, we keep a CLOSE EYE on it!
    So when I see y`all DESTROYING YOURSELVES I am alarmed! Horrified even!

    5Cats, Democrats don`t make laws that discriminate.
    @SmagBoy1: Are you IMPLYING that Republicans DO?

    How does Obamacare (a 100% All-Dem Law) NOT discriminate?

    WTF are you even talking about? This is a thread about a FICTIONAL BOOK! You`re spouting Pro-Obama LIES & PROPOGANDA??? Cheesus!

    How`s that DEBT doing? The one Obama promised NEVER to raise? What? Huh?
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    August 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm
    5Cats, I`m not the one who started talking politics in here! Or spreading lies. I`m stating facts to counter lies that others have stated, and I will be happy to delete my posts if the lies are deleted! I`ve got no problem with that! :-)
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 4:30 pm
    "Democrats don`t make laws that discriminate."

    Really? They`ve been caught using the IRS to discriminate against Tea Party groups, They`ve used SWAT teams to terrorize organic farms, They`ve used the DOJ to prosecute a hispanic man that shot a thug in self-defense. I could go on and on, but think I`ve refuted your statement fully.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 4:43 pm
    Crakr, that`s awesome how you just turned the tables on them like that. They really hate that.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 4:46 pm
    Caribou barbie has been old news since `08, let`s leave her on the trash heap of history.

    Bravo, Orwell WAS a socialist and before you wet yourself over that term perhaps you should go actually look up the meaning of that word.

    Crakr, you think we`re going to get more conservative in the future? And just where are these hoards of frightened angry old white people at? (hint, it`s that great big gated community in the sky or you know that easier to visit gated community with all the nifty little stone markers in it).
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2013 at 4:46 pm
    I can`t believe you guys are afraid of these Christians. You do know that they are all like 50 years old and talk like: "Golly gee dad, that sure was great!"

    I could literally think of 5 different groups that would be more likely to trigger a civil war or sectarian conflict.
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 4:56 pm
    QueenZira, don`t be weird. He described himself as many different things. However, he never described himself as a Socialist in commonly understood definition of the word (both among the laymen and academia). I wrote my Master`s thesis from Columbia University on Socialism. I know this shiite.

    In terms of Socialism, he is most accurately described as a "Libertarian Socialist". But this is leaving the bounds of Socialism altogether, really. I do know that this is an ideology I know you would hate. Not enough control for people like you. Here`s his quote:

    "The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians"

    And here is a quote for people like you:

    "as with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents."
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    Andrew155 Male 18-29
    2579 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 5:02 pm
    He was really a "utopianist". He always wanted a perfect balance between Capitalism and Collectivism, etc etc.


    "Capitalism leads to dole queues, the scramble for markets, and war. Collectivism leads to concentration camps, leader worship, and war. There is no way out of this unless a planned economy can somehow be combined with the freedom of the intellect, which can only happen if the concept of right and wrong is restored to politics."

    He basically wanted to have his cake and eat it, too. Wouldn`t it be nice if we could just strategically balance it all out?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm
    The question is moot. Obama`s going to spark a race-based war before the end of his term.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm
    Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:59:39 PM
    Is there not currently a faith-based civil war in America?

    Seriously @SmagBoy1? First post?

    @QueenZira: 1984 is about `fascism` which wears many disguises. Called by any other name? The result is always the same: 1984`s "Utopia"...
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    Andy, when you use that word, "weird" you sound like a third grader trying to describe his feelings for the cute new girl in his class for the first time. Use your words, speak above third grade level.

    Goerge Orwell, Democratic Socialist like his contemporary Jack London. And you need a checkup from the neckup if you think you can identify me politically.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm
    QueenZira: You spout grammer nazi crap and can`t spell George? Way to stick your foot in your mouth.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 8:20 pm
    Crakr, you scrutinize a typo but yet you still can`t tell me where this new conservative demographic flowering will come from?

    Surely with your superior non gay, non vegan, Rovian math (which worked so well on election night `12 if you recall) you can show me? THOSE COCOONS ARE OUT THERE AND WE ARE GOING TO FIND THEM D@MN IT!
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 8:23 pm
    The good thing about an American civil war is they do what they do best on their own turf and no innocent lives are lost.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
    1059 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 9:28 pm
    It`s probably true. The last time Republicans imposed morality on Democrats there was a civil war. That was back in the 60`s, but Dems are still violent, racist fascists, just as they were back then (the 1860`s of course).
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    August 21, 2013 at 9:49 pm

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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2105 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 11:08 pm
    It`s amaxing how the GOP paints a picture of Democrates being bullies when republicans want guns and to not let women have abortions. Just like that HITLER guy. (*cough,cough-Patriot act-cough*)
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
    13600 posts
    August 21, 2013 at 11:54 pm
    Oh a faith based civil war -
    that will be interesting to watch
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 12:25 am
    As long as people continue to read the bible and take it seriously, we will have the tangible threat of a scenario like this book depicts.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31771 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 12:46 am
    @spanerbulb: You mean the KORAN, right?

    Because there are 100 ACTIVE ISLAMIST JIHAD MOVEMENTS WORKING RIGHT NOW!
    And... 1? Active Christian movement???

    Oh yes! Those Christians are SUCH a THREAT!
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    badfish951 Male 70 & Over
    113 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 5:36 am
    This book seems no better or worse than that stupid "Left Behind" series. It certainly is fap fodder for the left but then I agree that the material is there. Neo-Cons are easy targets... they really do cling to their guns and their bibles.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 5:58 am
    when republicans want guns and to not let women have abortions.

    And most Dems want to not to let people men and women not have guns but support abortions.... tell me how pro choice that is again?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 6:04 am
    Is there not currently a faith-based civil war in America?

    Looks out window.... Hmmmm yep no splosionzz. I think you may be thinking of the Middle East currently.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
    296 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 8:20 am
    You know whats really f**king sad? Is that you guys keep talking about liberal vs conservative, republican vs. democrat, when none of that sh*t even matters at this point. Regardless of who is in office, there will be corporations tossing money at them so that they can dictate policy in their favor to drive up profits for their company. The bulk of Washington has been bought and sold like commodities on wall street. They are in no way concerned about the American people, all they care about is appealing to the highest bidder and lining their pockets. All the dumb sh*t Bush did was for profit, and going in Obama had potential, but just like his predecessor he succumbed to the allure of the almighty dollar and now hes doing the same dumb sh*t for the same dumb reason. America is a Plutocracy and is being run by corporate board members who dictate policy to whatever politicians they currently own.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
    296 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 8:21 am
    I`m sick of the bickering of Rep vs. Dem crap with you guys, why don`t we all agree that our government is f**ked and needs a complete overhaul. We need to elect officials who have no ties to current political parties to at least minimize their exposure to the same corporate greed that has overtaken both parties.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
    578 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 9:17 am
    I guarantee you this author has no idea what it means to truly be Christian.
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    keg74 Male 30-39
    410 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 9:40 am
    @Dargonace THANK YOU!! You are one of the first people I`ve seen that actually gets it. You 100% correct this monster that is the American system of politics is now a self sustaining horde of greed and corruption. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Left, Right, Bush or Obama. None of it matters. You can`t repair a broken system by using that broken system.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 10:03 am
    I guarantee you this author has no idea what it means to truly be Christian.
    Or to be Scottish, apparently.
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    incubus_inc Male 18-29
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    August 22, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Burn in hellfire Sarah Palin.
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    Denogginizer Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 10:51 am
    There is a faith-based war going on, but it`s about Athiests trying to stamp out the free expression of faith.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    August 22, 2013 at 11:40 am
    There is a faith-based war going on, but it`s about Athiests trying to stamp out the ILLEGAL expression of faith.

    FTFY.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
    296 posts
    August 22, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    There is a faith-based war going on, but it`s about Athiests trying to stamp out the free expression of faith.

    You`ve got to be f**king kidding me!!


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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 22, 2013 at 10:27 pm
    "There is a faith-based war going on, but it`s about Athiests trying to stamp out the free expression of faith."

    LOL, if you want to believe in your silly little imaginary friend, you can. pffft! hahahahaa. Oh you religious people, you crack me up.

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