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Date: 08/24/13 08:21 AM

36 Responses to 5 Experiments That Could Have Destroyed The World

  1. Profile photo of darkninja89
    darkninja89 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2013 at 8:21 am
    Link: 5 Experiments That Could Have Destroyed The World - We`re better off with the knowledge gained from these experiments, but what if they had gone wrong?
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    Lillim Female 30-39
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    August 24, 2013 at 9:14 am
    Bunk science, fearmongering, and opinion. Not worth the watch.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    August 24, 2013 at 10:03 am
    There was never the slightest chance that the large Hadron collider could cause harm, and as they include that one I have to assume the others are much the same.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 10:41 am
    I liked this, despite the title, which oversells it. The video doesn`t claim that all five experiments posed a real riak, only that some at the time thought they did, reasonably or not. I`m a Manhattan Project buff, and it`s certainly true that Teller speculated that the Trinity Test could ignite the atmosphere. It`s also true that Stephen Hawking (and others) have stated that sending radio beams out into space in search of extra-terrestrial intelligence runs the risk of inviting an advanced lifeform that views Earth much as Pizarro viewed the Incas.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2013 at 11:00 am
    moronic title...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 11:11 am
    Interesting list.

    I once met Dr. Edward Teller, and even when older he was still sharp as a tack and had a very good sense of humor (and even then he considered the media as idiots...I liked him immediately).

    He went on to be known as the Father of the Hydrogen Bomb.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
    Closed it as soon as they said hadron collider
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Lillim & Quackor: It`s not all "bunk science" or "moronic".

    There is a very real Nitrogen chain reaction, that happens in stars. Wiki

    History is littered with examples of scientific experiments that went horribly wrong, because of then unknown effects.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    I`m just off out to the kitchen to make a new aluminium-foil hat.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2013 at 12:52 pm
    No Haarp?
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2013 at 1:07 pm
    There was never the slightest chance that the large Hadron collider could cause harm
    @madduck how could you possibly know that? The scientists that built it didn`t know 100% what would happen.
    Same goes for all these `experiments`. It`s easy to scoff after the event but these guys are constantly playing Russian roulette with all of our lives. Why do we contantly have to play God? What purpose does finding out what happens when you crash two particles together actually serve? Will it save lives? Will it cure cancer? Will it create a cleaner fuel source? Will it feed the starving people of the world?
    Mankinds priorities are so screwed no one even cares anymore.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 1:27 pm
    Quite impressive, you yanks do like setting off big boomy things dont cha?
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    Jake_Justus Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    They forgot to mention casting Ben Affleck as Batman.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    @madduck how could you possibly know that? The scientists that built it didn`t know 100% what would happen.

    Madduck probably knows it in the same way that I know it, the scientists involved in it knows it and anyone who is informed on the subject knows it:

    Collisions of the same type and energy levels as those in the LHC occur frequently in nature. The driving force for them in nature is stars and there`s one right next door to Earth. LHC-level collisions occur all the time in the upper atmosphere. What`s unique about the LHC isn`t the collsions - it`s the ability to study them in great detail.

    The scientists didn`t know 100% what would happen, but they did know it wasn`t dangerous because they knew it happens many times every day just a few miles away and has done for billions of years.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 5:54 pm
    What purpose does finding out what happens when you crash two particles together actually serve? Will it save lives? Will it cure cancer? Will it create a cleaner fuel source? Will it feed the starving people of the world?

    You are a perfect example of a lack of knowledge and imagination.

    You even lack the knowledge of what the LHC is for! You could have found out in about as much time as it took you to write that post, but you chose to remain ignorant.

    People are trying to find out more about how the universe works and you can`t see how that might be useful.

    The modern world rests on technology, which rests on what people have already found out about how the universe works.

    Everything you mention and the computer you use to write your stunningly ignorant babble and a billion other things rest on knowing how the universe works...and you think knowledge is useless.

    How can anyone take you seriously?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 24, 2013 at 9:03 pm
    If they could have destroyed the world, they would have destroyed the world. The fact that they did not destroy the world means they could not have destroyed the world.

    SETI, on the other hand, is a different matter altogether. I really don`t see any up side in announcing our presence to the cosmos. We`re just inviting a technologically superior race to come down here, kick our asses, and use us for slave labor in a cobalt mine on some God-forsaken asteroid.
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2013 at 9:06 pm
    Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge will be increased, yet we still do not know how to love our fellow man as ourselves, and that will be the end of us.
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2013 at 9:08 pm
    By the way Angilion, you are an a$$hole.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 10:45 pm
    "People are trying to find out more about how the universe works and you can`t see how that might be useful."

    Unfortunately many of those "useful" things have lead to weapons that threaten man`s very existence on earth. So perhaps we should be cautious and not rush headlong into unknown territory.
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    CodeJockey Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2013 at 11:31 pm
    "...and use us for slave labor in a cobalt mine on some God-forsaken asteroid."
    You think too small: "To Serve Man."
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2013 at 12:22 am
    @Angilion

    you sir, went a step to far with your down dressing of drawman. he raised a legitimate point and your arrogance clouded your judgement. He`s right any penny wasted on supercolliders is unjustifiable when people are still dying of simple diseases that could be prevented.

    or are has your moral judgement sunken so low you think it`s okay to sacrifice the thousands (if not millions) of lives that could have been saved if that money hadn`t been wasted to give a few nerds the closest thing to an orgasm. No seriously. What good is knowing how black holes are formed if we can`t even make sure humanity is around long enough to even get close to one.

    it`s a shame you lost touch with reality and think your opinion is so rightous you can sweep any opposition under the carpet. you used to have intresting tales and arguments. get back to that.
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    tttesting123 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2013 at 1:45 am
    @MrOrange
    Little do you know but your response and drawman`s does show a lack of understanding of the history of science.

    The scientific community, when doing groundbreaking research, has little to no idea what is truly going to happen.

    Read up on the history of the microscope as an example. It reads like a "oh **** i was drunk and did this stuff and you would not believe what happened" story.

    Speaking with someone who has spent some time in the scientific communities in question id like to quote one of my older colleagues about trinity.
    “We had disproven the idea that the atmosphere would burst into flames, but people were still crossing their fingers”


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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    August 25, 2013 at 3:03 am
    The scientific community, when doing groundbreaking research, has little to no idea what is truly going to happen

    You nerds ought to get your stories matched. According to Angilion they did know what was going to happen. If so, it makes me wonder even more what those billions of dollars were wasted for. I`m all for trying to improve ourselves but this has no benefit whatsoever except to keep the scientists from finding real work to do.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 4:22 am
    According to Angilion they did know what was going to happen.

    Please stop making things up and claiming I wrote them.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 4:30 am
    Mr Orange:

    A relatively trivial amount of money spent on a better future is neither a waste of money nor immoral. I think that it is your moral judgement that is on shaky ground, because humanity needs a better understanding of how the universe works in order to have a better future, or possibly even have a future at all.

    You write in terms that the Daily Mail would reject for being too sensationalised.

    Even then, you talk about thousands of lives that you think (for some unexplained reason) would have been saved by not funding scientific research.

    Scientific research has saved many millions of lives and will save many billions more in the future. It has improved the quality of life of billions and will improve the quality of life of trillions in the future.

    If saving lives is what you want, you should be advocating more funding for research, not none.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 4:39 am
    We`re just inviting a technologically superior race to come down here, kick our asses, and use us for slave labor in a cobalt mine on some God-forsaken asteroid.

    I think that`s not as much of a risk as it might first seem.

    Any civilisation that has technology advanced enough to be able to travel hundreds or thousands of lightyears in a routine, reliable, practical way is unlikely to need people to do its mining. They`re much more likely to have machines to do all the work that people wouldn`t want to do and to do it much more efficiently than any people could.

    I think that there are risks, not least of which is simply the existence of such a massive gap in knowledge and technology. It might well ruin humanity even if their intention is benevolent.

    If their intention is malevolent, I think they`d be more likely to just kill us all because we`re no use to them.

    I think that SETI is risky, but not for the reason you gave.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2013 at 4:53 am
    @Angilion
    @tttesting123

    Actualy, both of you have lost touch with reality.
    The large hadryon collider cost 7.5 billion euro`s, al this to find a "particle" which may or may not explain a bit more about physics that is on a level that maybe 2% of the worlds population has a real clue as to what the hell it is about.

    I`m no expert. but i reckon 7.5 billion euro would do a drat of a lot for research into say: cancer? malaria? finding a a viable way to deal with world hunger? I don`t know if both of you had a look outside of your room lately but this world has got bigger problems then a may or may not be particle which may or may not influence physics. a better understanding of this universe will do us little good if we can`t feed an ever expanding world population. this isn`t about wether science is relevant or important (i happen to think it is) it`s about using the means that you have to the most productive end.
    the LHC is in that sense a waste of
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2013 at 8:11 am
    The title should be changed from...

    "5 Experiments That Could Have Destroyed The World"

    To...

    "5 Experiments The Some People Speculated May Have Had The Potential To Destroy The World"
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 9:42 am
    Mr Orange, here is some reality for you. I`m touching it. You seem to be unaware of the fact that you are doing so.

    EVERY modern piece of technology, including all of the numerous ones that feed people and heal people, rests entirely on understanding of how the universe works. All of that new knowledge was initially understood by a hell of a lot less than 2% of the population and even now, in most cases, is not properly understood by more than a miniscule minority.

    You would throw the future away for the sake of wasting a few more pennies here and there today. And yes, of course they would be wasted. The ludicrous idea that every penny taken away from safeguarding the future of humanity would automagically cure cancer and all that bollocks is Daily Mail territory.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 9:51 am
    Even if it wasn`t, defunding scientific research in order to add a trivial amount of money to already massively funded programs will kill far more people. Such dangerous ignorance and short-sightedness might end humanity. What problems will humanity face in the future? How will it face them without any better technology than we have now?

    Of course, if people like you had had their way then we wouldn`t even have modern technology. No electricity, for starters. That cost a huge fortune to build the infrastructure, but of course with your line of argument that wouldn`t even have been a question because there wouldn`t have been any research into such a useless thing (and yes, electricity was initially useless).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Knowledge adds to knowledge and is recorded. Sooner or later, it is combined to be of practical use. Maybe the LHC, which does a lot more than look for the Higgs` boson, will provide a key piece of knowledge making the clean generation of power possible. Maybe something else. Maybe many other things. One thing is certain - it won`t be useless, unlike adding the trivial amount it cost to already hugely funded things such as cancer research.

    You would destroy the future to at best add trivial amounts to the present. Your position is dangerous, horrible and indefensible and it appalls me. Your position is immoral and out of touch with reality, even though you`re surrounded by the technology you would have prevented from ever existing.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2013 at 10:55 am
    @angilion.

    Since it`s weekend i`m goint to assume your on a trip. and leave it at that. your putting words in my mouth and drawing conlusions that can`t be drawn.

    enjoy your trip!
    and have a nice one .)
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm
    "...and use us for slave labor in a cobalt mine on some God-forsaken asteroid."
    You think too small: "To Serve Man."
    I wouldn`t worry too much about that. Humans would make a TERRIBLE food source. We require WAY too much care in the first few years of life, and we don`t reach edible size till about 15 years. Cows and pigs, on the other hand, require very little care when young and are ready to eat in ~15 months.
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    Runemang Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm
    We had "distributed computing" in 1924? >.>
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    August 26, 2013 at 1:20 pm
    We had "distributed computing" in 1924?

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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    August 27, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    I still think messing with Black Holes is a bad idea, just solely on what if it stayed. Unless you have a way of stopping it, don`t start it.

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