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  1. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 11:07 am
    Link: Was Trayvon A 6`2`` Muscular Street Fighter? - ...or was he actually the 5`-11``, 158 pound kid we saw initially in photos?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 11:40 am
    The internet: challenging human BS filters since 1973
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    shamrock1014 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 11:44 am
    A grown man with a gun confronts a teenager and we are supposed to believe the grown man was screaming? You can trace the lies of Zimmerman
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    Don`t know when that pic is from,but... muscular is NOT the absence of fat- and this pic does not show a `muscular` person.
    Zimmerman assumed Martin was up to no good. Zimmerman followed Martin- even though he was advised by 911 operator he did not need to. Zimmerman was armed- in direct conflict with community watch policy.
    His bias and poor judgement makes him criminally culpable for instigating the resultant confrontation and it`s rather tragic end.
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    TheChuck Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    Haha. Is the poster trying to trick the `lamestream anti-white media` types into finding out most of their conspiracy theories are just silly? To answer the question: Yes, he was the 5`11" 158lbs kid from the photos.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    He wasn`t the kid from the photos. The photos were him at 12 years old.

    He was 5`11" 160. When I was 17, I was 5`9" 150 and I could have kicked Zimmerman`s pudgy ass.

    The fact, fact, fact remains that Trayvon jumped Zimmerman from behind and began hitting him. THAT is when the altercation began.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    What does it matter how tall he was? Once Zimmerman began pursuing him, Trayvon had every right to protect himself under the "stand your ground" law.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    shamrock, "A grown man with a gun confronts a teenager and we are supposed to believe the grown man was screaming? "
    So much incorrect...
    1: pussies can have guns too, so it could be him screaming for help.
    2: Trayvon confronted Zimmerman.
    3: Nearest witness {15 feet away} saw Trayvon on top, Zimmerman on bottom, just like he said.
    4: Zimmerman has all the head injuries to prove it.

    Lots more but that`s enough to make the point.
    Looking to see where someone is going, is not a valid excuse to double back, hide in the bushes, then pop out and confront someone, then pop-em in the nose and beat the head on the concrete.

    Besides actually being not guilty, I want Zimmerman to get off because the riots will be a blast to watch.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:45 pm
    "The fact, fact, fact remains that Trayvon jumped Zimmerman from behind and began hitting him. THAT is when the altercation began."

    You were there? You should have testified! BTW- Zimmerman gained all that weight in jail. Probably to look weaker to the jury. Fooled you, didn`t it?

    Guess that mixed martial arts training that Zimmerman said he had been doing didn`t work out too well for him if he had to resort to shooting someone. sad, sad little man.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    "Zimmerman has all the head injuries to prove it. "

    Two little cuts and a bloody nose. that`s it. little kids routinely get much worse on a playground.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    snopes? really? I thought we had assertained that snopes was a completely untrustwiorthy buch of bulls hit...
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    I`ve said on here that, while I believe that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation by getting out of his car and pursuing Martin, I will accept whatever verdict is levied.

    That said, due to posters on here and my own reading, I`d come to believe that the MSM had shown pictures of Martin from when he was far younger than the day he died. So, when I found this link, I wanted to post it. Not to stick up for the MSM or to say Zimmerman is guilty, but just to make clear that there`s a whole lot of misinformation out there about this case, and both "sides" have engaged in that (knowingly or not).

    I just thought this was good info to have a look at. Again, not assigning guilt.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:17 pm
    Not on our playgrounds lauriloo. Is your kids playground in the street?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    Following and asking questions is not grounds for the stand your ground law assault is. Everything eyewitnesses have said has supported Aimmermans case. The prosecution on the otherhand could rely on sound experts to identify the voice so they brought up Trayvons mother and brother LOL! Let not let facts and evidence impede the witch hunt though...
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    Fojos Male 18-29
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    @jtrebowski No. Following someone isn`t illegal anywhere, and it`s not covered by stand your ground in any way.
  16. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    McGovern1981, if you`re in an unfamiliar neighborhood and someone follows you in a car and starts asking you questions about what you`re doing there, etc., you might feel threatened. And, if you do, if you do fear that the asker might be a risk, aren`t you allowed to stand your ground? After all, isn`t that what Zimmerman is claiming he did? (well, you know, after getting out of his car and pursuing Martin?) Again, I`m not assigning guilt. The jury will do that, and I`ll accept it, but if you can`t see both sides of this, how either person might have felt threatened and/or concerned for his safety, then I fear you`ve got a pretty heavy bias going.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    "Not on our playgrounds lauriloo."

    Seriously? No kids have ever gotten into a fight where you live? Riiiight.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm
    Wow! Talk about a "non-issue"!

    This is from the same guy who thinks "Benghazi is nothing..." THIS???

    But Benghazi, et. al., for example, are just effing ridiculous and not even worth discussion.

    Jesus Tapdancing Christ!!

    This is from March of 2012! It`s just a "demotivational" poster! And it`s true: the MSM used childhood pictures of Trayvon Martin even though more recent ones are/were available!

    @SmagBoy1: Your bias is matched only by your bigotry...
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    List of things that are not illegal:

    1. Following someone (Note that stalking is not following, as stalking indicates an established pattern between the victim and stalker);
    2. Asking someone questions;
    3. Disobeying a dispatcher;
    4. Being armed in spite of Neighborhood Watch regulations;
    5. Getting out of a truck;
    6. Being armed while possessing a CCW permit.

    Things that are illegal:

    1. Attacking someone for doing any of the above.
    2. Attacking someone while doing any of the above.

    Regardless of who attacked who, the things many of you people seem to think are illegal, are not illegal.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    You don`t have to weigh more than someone to be a better fighter. I have met some tough little farts. Like human Chihuahuas. Afraid of no one!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm
    BTW- Zimmerman gained all that weight in jail.
    @lauriloo: This is speculation at best: Z used to be heavier, lost weight and then after the incident gained some back. THAT is a fact.

    Two little cuts and a bloody nose.
    Which absolutely PROVE that Martin attacked Zimmerman. WHY does not matter: Z was attacked by M. Unless you believe those wounds were self-inflicted??

    @emmettyville: Snopes `leans left`, but usually are reliable enough for a `starting point`. NOT here however: They`re obviously just drumming for the pro-Martin camp.

    @Fojos: Thank you for pointing that out. @jtrebowski flogs that dead horse EVERY single time.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    lauriloo, "Two little cuts and a bloody nose. that`s it. little kids routinely get much worse on a playground."
    The physicians assistant who treated Zimmerman said stopping the attack probably saved him from a fractured scull and that the two black eyes indicate the nose was probably broken - they didn`t take xrays.

    The County Medical Examiner said the cuts on Zimmerman were small and indicated his head "impacted the concrete not more than 3 times".

    @ lauriloo, you`ve done what so many women in this country have done...made your decision emotionally. Trayvon died so someone HAS to be punished. It`s probably that Trayvon is the person responsible for his death. All of the evidence indicates that is the case. Which is why police and prosecutors initially refused to charge him.
  23. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    5Cats, I agree that this is a minor issue. I`m not the one who made such a big deal about it, though. Who was? Who are the ones who said the MSM media used super young photos of Martin even though newer ones were available? Who harped on this? A lot? It wasn`t me. And, fact is, I believed you! I bought into what you were saying! And now I find out in reading this that it`s just not true. Again, I`m not blaming you. I`m not blaming anyone. Just saying that there has been misrepresentation and I`d like to clear it up on both sides.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    @SmagBoy1: And every word I said was... TRUE!

    Even if THIS particular picture was the "wrong Trayvon" the FACTS remain:
    The MSM repeatedly used 5 year old pictures of "child Trayvon".
    Other, much more recent pictures WERE available.

    You`ve shown nothing to dispute this.

    TM was a 17 year old, 5`11, 160 pound football athlete, avid drug user, with a history of `erratic behaviour`...

    He was NOT 12 YEARS OLD! (at the time).
  25. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    " this is a minor issue"
    Not to George Zimmerman it isn`t. It`s the rest of his life at stake.

    If convicted, it shows that you are not allowed to protect yourself when you are attacked. All you can do is lay there and take it, hoping you don`t get killed. You can call the police after the fact, for all the good it will do you.
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    SethDog Male 18-29
    768 posts
    July 7, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh NO MORE OF THIS CASE!!!!!!!!!!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 7, 2013 at 3:47 pm
    How is this is relevant to the facts of the case? If he was only 5`11" and 158 lbs., does that make it okay for him to beat another human being to death?
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    Apparently, EVERY fist fight is an opportunity to shoot and kill someone. Great idea. Better not stand by any bar or club after 1 am or you are liable to get killed now.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    "@ lauriloo, you`ve done what so many women in this country have done...made your decision emotionally."

    BULL. I actually watched most of the trial and made my decision on what I heard. All I`ve heard on here on the other side is what they heard on Fox news to support Zimmerman. NOTHING in the trial showed that Martin ATTACKED Zimmerman first, like you are trying to say. Like Martin`s friend who was on the phone said, who would be on the phone AND start a fight at the same time?? If I were going to hide in the bushes and jump someone, *I* would put the phone away and get ready. WOULDN`T YOU?? Zimmerman got minor injuries during a brief scuffle. No blood or skin on Martin`s hands or fingernails to show prolonged contact with Zimmerman. No big bruises that *I* would expect if my head was being beaten repeatedly against concrete. No blood on the concrete sidewalk. A couple rocks in the grass could have caused those tiny cuts.
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 4:41 pm
    There were only two people on earth who knew exactly what happened that night, and one of them is dead. If you put your personal feelings aside, you have to realize that anyone who has any concept of the legal definition of "reasonable doubt" knows that there is no way Zimmerman can be convicted of murder in this case. In fact, if the case hadn`t gotten such national notoriety, I doubt the DA would have even brought charges. Or if so, it certainly would have been something less than murder.

    And if Zimmerman`s lawyers didn`t know that there was zero chance of proving murder beyond a reasonable doubt, they would have encouraged him to plea to a lesser charge before this even got to trial.

    The DA made a huge mistake putting Martin`s mother on as their last witness to say it was his voice screaming on the 911 tape, because it allowed the defense to put Zimmerman`s mother on right after her to say it was his voice. "Reasonable doubt", you see. Zi
  31. Profile photo of randomxnp
    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 4:53 pm
    Old Ollie

    It is if you are a leftie racist, who really needs a bit of a show trial right now.

    158 lb was about my weight when I was in the military. I hope I could have tackled an adult adversary adequately.

    Lauriloo

    "Apparently, EVERY fist fight is an opportunity to shoot and kill someone. "

    No-one said that, but any time someone jumps me and threatens my life (or indeed does so to someone in my vicinity) I will use everything in my power to stop them. The consequences are the fault of the assailant, not the defender.
  32. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:01 pm
    You guys act like it`s the leftist racist who brought up the whole picture thing? Wow. Amazing how short your memories are. Too, it`s amazing how you can`t see that Trayvon Martin, an UNARMED teenager, might would have felt threatened when be followed in car and then on foot by an ARMED man. I`m not saying anyone`s guilty, but, again, if you can`t even say that you can understand that, and then you want to pass judgment, I`m just grateful you`re not on the jury.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm
    I`m curious. How much would a handgun buck backward if you shot someone who was on top of you? Maybe THAT`S how Zimmerman broke his nose. There are all sorts of possibilities here that we can never confirm or deny.
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    lauriloo Female 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:16 pm
    "No-one said that, but any time someone jumps me and threatens my life (or indeed does so to someone in my vicinity) I will use everything in my power to stop them. The consequences are the fault of the assailant, not the defender."

    A good argument AGAINST every dufus carrying a gun. How about not voluntarily getting into a likely bad situation to begin with? Is there any responsibility to do THAT?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    It doesn`t matter how big the thug Trayvon Martin was, what matters is he attacked George Zimmerman who shot him in self-defense.

    But those facts won`t stop the other thugs looking for a lame reason to riot, when George is found not guilty.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm
    @SmagBoy1: You got some PROOF that TM knew Z was armed?
    Some evidence NOT SEEN in the courtroom? Or indeed, ever?

    IN FACT TM did NOT know Z was armed. So that makes everything you just said "fantasy" and NOT reality.

    You and @lauriloo have based your decisions on YOUR IMAGINATION, not on the known (or even suspected) facts!
    `Hiding in the bushes`? Wait, what?

    Timeline:
    1- Z sees TM walking. TM sees Z in his truck.
    2- Z stops truck. TM stops walking. They `check each other out`.
    3- TM approaches Z`s truck, Z then gets out of truck.
    4- Z chases TM for a few SECONDS. As soon as the dispatcher tells him to? Z STOPS.
    5- 2 full minutes pass. Z does not move, he has no idea where TM is.
    6- While walking back to his truck, TM again approaches Z.
    7- A fight ensues.
    8- Z does NOT pull his gun until he`s afraid for his life.

    Period. Even the DA has NOTHING to dispute this timeline...
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm
    This is the prosecution star witness caught right in her own lies BTW!! So creepy ass cracker ya he was an angel all right!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm
    an UNARMED teenager, might would have felt threatened when be followed in car and then on foot by an ARMED man

    How did he know he was armed CCW mean Carrying a concealed weapon thereby unseen.

    The defense has punched holes in every "witnesses" accounts watch and see for yourself and remember the requirement to be found guilty is BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT!
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:39 pm
    @lauriloo

    How about not voluntarily getting into a likely bad situation to begin with? Is there any responsibility to do THAT?
    By this logic, women who wear short skirts are clearly partially responsible for being raped. This logic is clearly incorrect.

    Maybe THAT`S how Zimmerman broke his nose.
    Completely and utterly not based on any fact let alone reason. You`ve clearly never fired a handgun. In spite of that, you come up with ridiculous theories in order to back your argument.

    @5Cats is right, you`re treating your imagination as if it were fact or, at the very least, as if it were plausible.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    ^^ That`s in regard to a letter she f**king wrote herself!!

    Maybe THAT`S how Zimmerman broke his nose.

    You probably belive the doctor saying the injusries weren`t bad from looking at a picture over a doctor who actually physically check him over too. You don`t break your nose shooting a pistol.
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
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    July 7, 2013 at 7:32 pm
    I`m 6`4 190 pounds there`s no way you can say 6`2 175 MUSCULAR pounds what kind of horsepoo is that? he was thin for his height sure. I`d say he was wiry at best. Maybe toned but give me a break. regardless some neighborhood watch guy shouldn`t be playing investigator his job was to report anything to the proper authorities. Do I know or not know who engaged who? Absolutely not. But the antagonist based on teh phone call to the police sounds like Zimmerman, he went looking for trouble.
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    zeplin4u Male 40-49
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    July 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    Only a MORON would pass speculation off as fact, only a MORON thinks he is getting the facts.
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    bex753 Male 40-49
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:32 am
    The simple fact is one dude was minding his own business, just walking home and now he is dead.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:42 am

    Anyone who thinks Zimmerman is guilty is saying that, if I don`t like someone`s non-violent behavior {following} then I have a right to sucker punch them, beat them to the ground and pound their head into the concrete. That`s what Trayvon did, and if Zimmerman is not within his right to defend himself, then you are saying the Trayvon Martins of the world are within their rights to Attack any "creepy ass cracker" they want.
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    kree_ Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:42 am
    You know who is 5`11 158lbs? Peter Quillin undefeated middleweight world boxing champion.

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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:51 am
    "The simple fact is one dude was minding his own business, just walking home and now he is dead."

    Not, that`s not the simple fact. That`s what you want to believe.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 8:08 am
    Anyone who supports Travon has been completely ignoring the facts and how the case has progressed. because either A. they suffer white guilt or B. are black. When eyewitness testamony fits youz must aquits! That and look at the prosecutions STAR WITNESS she wasn`t even there and got caught lying more than once!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 8, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    "The simple fact is one dude was minding his own business, just walking home and now he is dead."
    Actually, no. Martin didn`t live there, he was a stranger.
    Zimmerman however, was going about his own business in his own neighborhood.
  49. Profile photo of kree_
    kree_ Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 1:55 pm
    @garry, he was visiting his father`s fiance. He might not have lived there, but he certainly wasn`t a stranger.
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    normalfreak2 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    I`m 6`4 190 pounds there`s no way you can say 6`2 175 MUSCULAR pounds what kind of horsepoo is that? he was thin for his height sure. I`d say he was wiry at best. Maybe toned but give me a break. regardless some neighborhood watch guy shouldn`t be playing investigator his job was to report anything to the proper authorities. Do I know or not know who engaged who? Absolutely not. But the antagonist based on teh phone call to the police sounds like Zimmerman, he went looking for trouble.
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    kree_ Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm
    You know who is 6`2 175lbs? carl froch world super middleweight boxing champion
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:15 pm
    Theres been so many lies printed about this story its impossible to know whats genuine evidence and whats not. Most people on here just believe the lies that back up the view they formed instantly without any evidence.
    None of you know what happened, typing "fact" after the bits that back your own version doesn`t make it actually true, it just makes you an imbecile.
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    kree_ Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm
    @paddy,

    you are correct, carl is only 6`1 and fights at 168

    everything is a lie
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
    625 posts
    July 9, 2013 at 12:58 pm
    "Like Martin`s friend who was on the phone said, who would be on the phone AND start a fight at the same time??"

    If you were really watching the trial you would have know that the cell phone was in his pocket the whole time and he was using earbuds with a mic.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    July 9, 2013 at 1:00 pm
    "I`m curious. How much would a handgun buck backward if you shot someone who was on top of you? Maybe THAT`S how Zimmerman broke his nose."

    Yes because you are always taughtto hold a gun right in front of your nose when shooting someone in the chest from 6 inches away...
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
    625 posts
    July 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    Edson Barboza 5"11 155 lbs

    Same height as Trayvon fights at a lower weight, Would anyone consider him a "skinny" guy?




  57. Profile photo of kree_
    kree_ Male 30-39
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    July 9, 2013 at 4:38 pm
    To be fair, we should probably be adding 10-15lbs to these fighters, no one weighs in at their actual weight.

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