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Date: 07/25/13 03:27 PM

24 Responses to Train Conductor Makes Facebook Post Before Crash

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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    Link: Train Conductor Makes Facebook Post Before Crash - What does his post say? Not much, he just brags about how fast his train`s speeding and posts a pic of the speedometer.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    If this is true then the man should go to jail for a looooong think on what an irresponsible, careless dickhead he has been, and how little he regarded the lives of the people who trusted him to get them to where they wanted to be safely.
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    FredSpudman Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    Brags about it in March 2012? That`s a lengthy train journey, it`s no wonder he lost concentration.
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm
    ahh just zoomed the pic....just goes to show how news can get stuff wrong eh? Still, it could be a factor if he did habitually break the speed limits for his own gratification.
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    Jake_Justus Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm
    This guy`s going to be the next Francesco Schettino (Italian cruise ship captain).
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    Jake I was thinking that too...they put their own desires first (former captain showing off to a woman, the latter apparently speeding for fun) and caused an avoidable accident that killed several people...causing death by inflated ego?
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    drawman61 Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    The question is whether there are speed restrictions in Spain. Surely it`s computerised and control should be able to see it. Over here his ass would be hauled in immediately. If he`s been doing this since 2012 it suggests the authorities need looking at.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 4:46 pm
    It`s a photo from last year, not right before the accident.
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    747Pilot Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 5:49 pm
    He said in his post that he would be fined if he went faster. It could be the company ok`d a green light for all trains to go up 200kph to meet the target times, after all, a lot of companies say time is money. Now that disaster strikes, it could be the company needs a fall guy like the conductor. Sad so many people died like that...
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    charrot1 Male 30-39
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    July 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm
    If I were about to be involved in a crash, I think I would be praying instead of making a Facebook comment.Charlie
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    July 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    jake and ohno, dont do that, you seem to have convicted the peeps before you really know what is going on.
    if the dude says he would be fined if going faster it means he is allouwed to go as fast.
    in case of Francesco Schettino, he may have been the captain but a ship like that has a crew standing at the weel, not the captain. In the end he is responcible, but does not need to be and in this case indeed, the cause. the first officer had deviated from the course and has allread accepted a punishment under law for it. Now, does that absolve the captain, no. But he did not float the boat to close. He did After the ship had allready ran into the rockformation at the bottom, which he stated he did to prevent the ship from capzising in the deeper water. In this case most seafarers would blindly agree with him, the ship now tilted almost 90% which is bad but still better then doing a 180% which could have happened in deeper water.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    @ charrot1 - selling ValPlan are we?
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 7:33 pm
    one would think someone checked speed limits or at least checked their drivers for stupidity
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    SnoopyBG Male 18-29
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    July 25, 2013 at 11:37 pm
    That facebook post is from 2012. This was a crash waiting to happen.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 3:37 am

    Comming from a family that has salt water running through it`s vain. Schettino should be keelhauled and no if or buts. A captain does not abandon ship until the last crew member has left (which is after the last passenger has left) end of drating story. Also the account you give varies greatly from the one i read, the ones i read is that he did deviate course and perfomed drat up after drat up after drat up. Actually, flog that s.o.b. before he`s keelhauled
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 6:17 am
    I defend what I said...The Captain is the ultimate authority and the buck should now and always stop with him/her. The same goes for anyone in charge of something be it a boat/train/car/bicycle...If an incident occurs and the person in charge is at fault..they should be held solely accountable.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 7:35 am
    Spain leads the world in high Speed Trains doesn`t mean this was breaking the law or driving without care. Wait for the report and investigation pitchfork brigade
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    Modwain Male 40-49
    334 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 8:43 am
    mrorange, having walked a fair bit of miles on the salty, i too know a bit, maybe no where near as much as your family but stil.

    first off, the captain needing to leave the ship last. Ok fair is fair, it sounds nice, but there is no law or regulation that states that, not in italy, not in europe and not in international waters. So that one can go out of the window right away, all be it that we romanticly still seem to believe it is the case. A captain should be where he can be most effective. This may be on board the ship but this is not always true. Personaly i also adhere to the last man leaving is the capt`n but still, not a rule. He did give an excuse on how he came to leave the ship though, according to him he fell overboard, not totaly unbelievable ,but in any event, it doesnt matter.
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 8:53 am
    about the story you read, well, we know how the media behaves in top line stories. they have a lot to be ashamed of, lets leave it at that.

    Does Schettino need to own up and take responcibility? yes, but if you indeed have a family of seafarers, then you should know that the captain does not necesarily `drive` the boat, hell, in most cases, as in this case, he didn`t.
    Even the lawsuit against him now is not that he is guilty of what happened, but he is guilty of neglect of helping those incapable of helping themself. this at best is a debate of somantics. He will however most likely never be a captain again.

    btw, i will ad a link about 5 other crew members being convicted for fault, schettino wasnt part of that lawthingy as he will face a responcibility case, which is, lets face it, not the same as `you did it`

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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 8:58 am
    and ohno, i do agree with you, partly.. the buck should stop with him, so he should be held responsible for what happened, but he shouldnt and i am glad that he didnt find himself alone in this. cause the crew should know what they are doing too and as such bare part of the responcibility. but his crew or more precice, those responcible did see penalty come their way, as should schettino, the thing is though, it is unfair and indeed unrealistic to claim it is all on the captain.
    Yes the buck stops with him, but not soly him, his is partly responcible and therefor partly to blame, but no more then partly.

    Its like bringing criminal charges against a police commisionar cause some police men under him misbehave. yes he is responcible, but not soley
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    Modwain Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 8:59 am
    hmm, i cant see the link, so lets assume i lost it, so here is a repost of this

    costa concordia
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    July 28, 2013 at 12:08 am

    like i said, salt water in the vains.. it beats dust between the ears...
    Captain goes down with the ship
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    July 28, 2013 at 12:19 am
    as for your "the crew carries responsibility too" argument.. No they don`t. He`s the captain, they are crew. you`d need a very very good reason to disobey a command from your captain as that is mutiny. i think you need to remember that the sea is a cruel mistress, and that you need a well maintained ship and a crew that functions as a solid unit.
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