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Date: 07/08/13 03:29 PM

11 Responses to Pilot Who Crashed At SFO Was `In Training` [Pic+]

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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 3:29 pm
    Link: Pilot Who Crashed At SFO Was `In Training` - Asiana Airlines CEO claims the pilot`s inexperience wasn`t a factor.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    "San Mateo County Coroner Robert Foucrault said he was investigating whether one of the two teenage passengers killed Saturday actually survived the crash but was run over by a rescue vehicle"
    Well that would suck.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    July 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm
    Whodat6484, this pilot and author of the linked article here says the "inexperience" wasn`t a factor, either. It`s a good read and informed counterpoint to the narrative in the media right now. Not being a pilot myself, I have no clue. Just reading all I can on it...
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    DFWBrysco Male 40-49
    307 posts
    July 8, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    Another case of the media running wild and frenzied and whipping up people any way they can. Makes you wonder if Hearst is still alive or not.

    Like SmagBoy, I am not a pilot - but it is my understanding that it is standard practice to have these training flights; after all, a pilot has to have so many hours both in the simulator and in real life to be certified on different types of jets. As the article stated but didn`t elaborate or even expound on, the guy was being training by an experienced pilot... one that was supposed to take responsibility for the flight.

    And just *what* was he doing while all of this was going on?
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 8, 2013 at 5:46 pm
    Exactly where did I say that I think the CEO is full of sh*t? The link description is basically paraphrasing what was said and you chose to take that negatively, I guess. I`m not a pilot either, and I know pilots are required to receive OJT because regardless of how many hours you log in a simulator it`s still not the real thing.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14455 posts
    July 8, 2013 at 6:50 pm
    It`s an air crash. Let`s at least wait till the report.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15845 posts
    July 8, 2013 at 7:50 pm
    In training? More likely he SHOULD have been in training, but apparently the people who were supposed to be training him decided to f*** off and let him try to land it all by himself. Then when the alarms finally went off, it was too late.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    July 8, 2013 at 8:07 pm
    I just don`t understand how anyone who`s flown a Cessna for a few hours wouldn`t know you have to watch your approach speed to avoid stalling. Being a newbie on a 777 is NO excuse whatsoever for suddenly realizing you`re falling out of the sky, and I find it hard to believe each pilot was waiting for the other to point that out.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15845 posts
    July 8, 2013 at 9:12 pm
    It sounds backwards, but in a fixed-wing aircraft, the throttle controls the rate of climb/descent; the elevator controls the airspeed. Keep that in mind.

    The plane was coming in at a steep angle, essentially coasting with the engines idling. That`s not unusual or dangerous in and of itself.

    As they got closer, though, the pilot realized the plane was on a path to land short of the runway. He pulled back on the yoke when he should have added power. Pulling the nose up flattened out the angle of descent TEMPORARILY, but what it REALLY did was drastically reduce their airspeed. The pilot thought he had enough momentum (big planes have lots of that) to maintain his speed till he got to the runway. He was wrong. Pulling the nose up is like hitting the brakes.

    He hit the seawall with his tail and broke it off. The rest is on TV.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    July 9, 2013 at 1:17 am
    whodat, just to be clear, please know that I wasn`t blaming you or saying your link was bad or wrong or anything. I apologize if I came off that what. I was just trying (poorly apparently) to offer another article so we could read another POV. I`m clueless on this stuff and it`s a tragedy and so I`m just trying to read up on it. My sincere apologies if I sounded in any way like you were wrong or endorsing something that was wrong.
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
    5880 posts
    July 9, 2013 at 2:45 am
    Pilot in training, eh?
    Little more gas there, more gas. MORE GAS!
    I`m sorry Mr Kim, I have to inform you that you have failed you first pilot`s test.
    I am thankful that in all of my overseas career I never had a bad flight. I now have to contend with the next item on the list of things that end life.

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