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46 Responses to Obama: Trayvon Martin Could`ve Been Me 35 Yrs Ago

  1. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 8:59 am
    Link: Obama: Trayvon Martin Could`ve Been Me 35 Yrs Ago - The divider and chief continuing his unprofessionalism. Story in credits link below.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2402 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:27 am
    how did i know this is going to be one of the wackjobs post? i wonder...
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    Neoptolemos Male 30-39
    625 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:27 am
    Nothing to see here, people....
    Just McGovern1981 being her charming ol` self...
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:27 am
    This was a good talk. Seriously McGovern, could you come across as more of a frothing hater?
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
    330 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:31 am
    Well, ya know, if black men didn`t dress like they`re straight out of the hood maybe people wouldn`t lock their doors or clutch their purses. I do the same for white guys that dress that way too, mind you.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:39 am
    I rather enjoy that the far right fringes of the Republican Party continue to highlight their bigotry in this manner. We`ve got midterm elections in just over a year and it`s important that voters know who`s who. :-)
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    handimanner Male 60-69
    2095 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 9:44 am
    Divider-in-chief? That was Bush.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:23 am

    I can agree with McGovern on this one. Obama should stay out of this. It is very obvious that he is biased in this situation. He is making excuses for the bad behavior of his own kind. His attitude a divisive "us" vs "them" attitude. He should either stay out of it, or at least try minimize the idea of race being involved. I`m not saying "this is fu@#ed up"....but McG does have a point.
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    1234 Male 30-39
    809 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:40 am
    I wish it was him 35 years ago. Things would be different today that`s for sure.
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    oobaka Male 40-49
    977 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:47 am
    @turd
    Race WAS involed. Do you actually think that instead of a black kid named Trayvon it was a white kid named Tyler that Zimmerman would have murdered....I mean legally shot him?

    Think about this.
    The stand your ground law.
    There was a case where a white man woke up and found his neighbor screwing his wife. He shot him several times. He got away with it because he claimed he didn`t recognize his neighbor.
    Compare that to a black woman who was being attacked by her boyfriend. She fired a warning shot and now she`s serving 20 years.
    Race plays a HUGE role in these cases.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
    885 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:59 am
    Could he have been Georgia too then?

    ridiculous
  12. Profile photo of Originalform
    Originalform Male 30-39
    292 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:10 am
    unreal, this guys agenda is disgusting
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    darkhawk Male 70 & Over
    260 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:14 am
    Compared to the last guy(`s) you voted to be president. Obama is doing a fairly good job. What do you expect, everything has been f*cked up by most of his predecessors. Would be a miracle if ANYONE good do a perfect job being president of America.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:24 am

    oobaka - You act like you know the answer. You don`t. I could just as easily assume that Zman would have followed a suspicious white kid just the same. He was on neighborhood watch patrol.

    Besides, that is not the friggin point!
    Look at you, so damn emotional you aren`t making any sense. Go change yer tampon, then get back on point.
    I commented on how obama is being divisive, which is opposite of what he should be doing. He has taken sides with his own kind, and making excuses for their bad behavior. If he isn`t going to help make things better, he should just keep quiet.
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    maggierose78 Female 18-29
    688 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:44 am
    Obama could not have been Martin 35 years ago. Their backgrounds are fundamentally different.

    Obama came from a more privileged background, Martin did not have the luxury of coming from a privileged background.

    Their experiences with race, religion, etc, were vastly different.

    If a white teenage female with a criminal background gets killed, I cannot accurately say that I would have been her X number of years ago because we both lived two different and separate lives. Her experiences and my experiences are totally different and therefore we take two totally different paths.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:47 am
    His "own kind" turdburglar? Do you mean Democrats? Liberals? Most of us find his comments entirely appropriate, not divisive at all, and barely even touching on the case, but rather a lot more about race relations in general. Matter of fact, when he did talk about the case, most of what he said revolved around the fact that the jury reached it decision and that we need to honor that.

    Or, oh, were you talking about someone else when you said "his kind"? Yeah, that`s what I thought.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:49 am
    maggierose78, just because Obama had a more privileged upbringing doesn`t mean that he didn`t suffer discrimination because of his skin color. That you believe that he didn`t, or that he couldn`t have, is part of the fundamental problem we have in trying to fix the issue. Denying it exists doesn`t fix it. Harping on it doesn`t fix it, either, I agree, but we have to admit that it`s there in order to address it.
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    Originalform Male 30-39
    292 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Socioeconomic status. Eiltist mentality. Period.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6165 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 11:54 am
    oobaka-"it was a white kid named Tyler"

    I truly believe that Zimmerman didn`t care if it was a black kid named Treyvon, a white kids name Tyler or a Yellow kids named Long Duck Dong beating his head into the sidewalk.

    His primary worry was the fact that he was getting his head beat into the sidewalk. The is what is called the `primary factor`.

    You can bring up as many cases as you want. But the facts of those cases do not corrospond to this one.

    This case was not racial. The not guilty verdict proved that.

    THIS was just a sad attempt by our `great uniter` tor re-insert race into a case that was proven not to be racial.

    The only thing racial is that the Professional Race Baiters saw an opportunity.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 12:11 pm
    @oobaka--lol, your entire argument comes from an article on Salon.com...one that was posted on this site.

    @turd--This isn`t necessarily divisive behavior though. He`s trying to provide a link of understanding between the two sides of the argument. He`s saying, to both parties "look, this is the kind of life experience that spurs much of the emotion surrounding this viewpoint. Conversely, the case was handled through proper legal procedure, and the result wasn`t a fluke."
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    that1joshguy Male 18-29
    232 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 12:25 pm
    coulda shoulda woulda
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    mykunter Male 40-49
    2424 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    It is my understanding that the only time race entered into the Martin/Zimmerman case was when Zimmerman was referred to as a "creepy-ass cracker".

    So STFU Obama.

    Martin illegally assaulted a legally armed man who legally defended himself.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32805 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Obama was smoking pot at age 17? That`s what he just said...

    Race Card = The Only Card Liberals Have.

    I used to have people act "nervous" around me when I was a "youth" too. It happens to EVERYONE.

    The only people who brought "race" into this are Trayvon and Jackson & Sharpton. And now Obama joins the chorus too. Shameful.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32805 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    Zo Nation Askes: Zimmerman Was White?

    Obama has a lot in common with Zimmerman too...
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
    4896 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Smagboy - You know damn well what I meant by his own kind. I was referring to his race. Quit acting so dang sensitive. It wasn`t derogatory.

    DP and Smag - I do think his comments were A BIT divisive. He is taking sides. He made comments excusing black Americans bad behavior, saying it`s because of past history. He should have said justice was served, and left it at that.

    It`s my opinion that black Americans would be doing themselves a favor if they would stop defending people who don`t deserve it, just because of their skin color. They should distance themselves from the garbage, while supporting decent productive members of society instead. That is why no one takes Jesse and Al seriously.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    Turdburglar: I think you just about summed it up. Frankly I don`t think the POTUS has any business speaking out about a court decision.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 2:35 pm
    And all the lemming can do is throw insults at me. You know it`s wrong you just can`t admit it. All he`s doing now is stoking the flames which can cause a riot. The court made its decision as the President he of all people should know to respect that this is very unprofessional.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2013 at 2:43 pm
    Divider in chief.
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    sickandtired Male 18-29
    77 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    I believe the sub-title of the post earned you your insults, McGovern. You come across as a chest-thumping bigot.

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    1234 Male 30-39
    809 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 3:50 pm

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    maggierose78, just because Obama had a more privileged upbringing doesn`t mean that he didn`t suffer discrimination because of his skin color. That you believe that he didn`t, or that he couldn`t have, is part of the fundamental problem we have in trying to fix the issue. Denying it exists doesn`t fix it. Harping on it doesn`t fix it, either, I agree, but we have to admit that it`s there in order to address it.

    You`ve just argued that a person is wholly defined by the colour of their skin. maggierose78 was talking about the entirety of a person`s experiences and circumstances, the entirety of what constitutes a person`s life. Your reply rests on the assumption that *you* made that skin colour is what constitutes a person`s life. Skin colour and nothing else.

    You probably did that so unthinkingly that you`re not even aware you did it.

    That`s a very big part of the fundamental problem.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm
    Compare that to a black woman who was being attacked by her boyfriend. She fired a warning shot and now she`s serving 20 years.
    Race plays a HUGE role in these cases.

    Are you referring to the oft-cited case in which a woman illegally entered the house of a man who had a restraining order against her and fired at adult chest height towards him and two children (whose heads were, unsurprisingly, at about adult chest height)?

    I ask because that incident was described in the same way and many people have repeated the false decsription without any knowledge.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Race WAS involed. Do you actually think that instead of a black kid named Trayvon it was a white kid named Tyler that Zimmerman would have murdered....I mean legally shot him?

    Yes. And it wouldn`t have made the news other than locally.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 4:36 pm
    Pretty pathetic Charles Barkley is more sensible than the Pres.

    I believe the sub-title of the post earned you your insults, McGovern. You come across as a chest-thumping bigot.

    Now I`m a bigot yet you can`t point to a single thing in the sub title that fits bigotry. That right there is the problem with what`s going on.
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
    500 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 4:50 pm
    Divide an conquer.

    Also, this was indeed highly unprofessional.

    Plus, this time i subscribe to Angilion and his opinion. Completely.
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    djwajda Male 40-49
    885 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 5:36 pm
    Hmmm, say things to stoke the racial tensions even higher than they are...that would be division in my book.

    In doing such things it would and should be considered unprofessional. So how can @McGovern`s description be considered bigotry?

    I see no outrage in these forums against the idiots that decided to riot and assault people they don`t even know while at the same time going to the bigot and racist card for anyone who supports the decision made by the GZ jury.


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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
    1467 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 7:13 pm
    Did you hear, while all this was going down the supreme court rules drug companies exempt from lawsuits.

    Link to a place that may not be reliable.
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    Magentab0b Female 30-39
    1467 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 7:16 pm
    Supreme court and congress do this all the time. Spam the media with civil rights, race, war and then pull the rug out to benefit corrupt corporate agendas. Omg gets me so mad. Bar lobbyists and special interest (except unions)!
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    Xprez Male 30-39
    676 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:04 pm
    I always bring up Antonio West. Where is the outrage for him? Man that makes me wanna cry. Have a 2 1/2 year-old, just too close to home.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    July 20, 2013 at 10:13 pm
    How is this decisive? He`s speaking up on an issue that seriously needs to be talked about. I see it as courageous to speak up as a president supporting a side of civil rights that people don`t want to acknowledge. He`s not saying race has anything to do with what happened at the trial. He`s saying this is what people believe as a result of their lives being affected by racism. He`s also saying he`s creating a plan to actually do something about racial tensions. He seems more serious and professional than he ever was before to me, he clearly isn`t trying to placate anymore.
    Of course, anyone who already hates Obama is going to hear what they want to hear and they`d only be happy if he just didn`t talk.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 20, 2013 at 10:44 pm
    Trayvon Martin Could`ve Been Me 35 Yrs Ago
    I wish.
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    SoCal Male 18-29
    650 posts
    July 21, 2013 at 1:48 am
    shut the fck up Obama
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    skogsgud Male 40-49
    94 posts
    July 21, 2013 at 2:58 am
    Waterboard Obama!
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    July 21, 2013 at 2:56 pm
    obama was a petty criminal? huh
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    Enjin Male 30-39
    802 posts
    July 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm
    What a joke.
    Obama has more in common with George Zimmerman than he has with Martin. Both Obama and Zimmerman had 1 white parent and 1 parent from outside the US. And with Zimmerman`s grandfather being black that makes Obama and Zimmerman more of a match ethnically than Obama and Martin.
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    SavageChef Female 50-59
    2692 posts
    July 22, 2013 at 10:25 am
    That look on his face when he realizes that he should have never picked up that shovel...the hole is getting too deep to climb out of...
    Thank goodness for term limits.

    Now, let`s address why that cop wannabee Zimmerman was armed and roaming the streets like a rabid pitbull.

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