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Date: 07/26/13 12:30 PM

41 Responses to Dark Truth Behind E-Cigarettes [Pic]

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    Fml Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 12:31 pm
    Link: Dark Truth Behind E-Cigarettes - The terrible product legislators and tobacco companies are trying to ban out of existence
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    Is this a sponsored ad?
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    REV666 Male 30-39
    191 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    wow, way to post a hugely misleading title there FML. this article goes on to basically show e-cigs are awesome.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    Give time and people will find something to bitch about in second hand vapor.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    So it`s an ad, promoting e-cigarettes by an e-cigarette company? Somehow I have to think there may be some bias involved in their opinion.
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    Likewise384 Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm
    A friend of mine does research into the health effects of E-cigarettes. While much of is unpublished. They are nowhere near as healthy as this leads people to believe. It seems to be a trade off, lose one toxic element and gain another.

    From the paper: Metal and silicate particles including nanoparticles are present in electronic cigarette cartomizer fluid and aerosol.

    "Cartomizer fluid with tin particles was cytotoxic in assays using human pulmonary fibroblasts. The aerosol contained particles >1 µm comprised of tin, silver, iron, nickel, aluminum, and silicate and nanoparticles (<100 nm) of tin, chromium and nickel. The concentrations of nine of eleven elements in EC aerosol were higher than or equal to the corresponding concentrations in conventional cigarette smoke. Many of the elements identified in EC aerosol are known to cause respiratory distress and disease."

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    Likewise384 Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm
    I almost spit out my coffee laughing at the broken link in my post..

    Attempt #2:

    Link to Paper
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    paco664 Male 40-49
    159 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    i used a ecig to quit reg cigs... i am vaping as i type this... they work wonderfully!
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    nobody`s saying e-cigs are good for you. but they have to be better then reg cigs. and i thinik the point of this isn`t advertise e-cigs its to bring light ot the fact that company`s that have no right to do so are trying to ban them, or at least have them controlled by a gov agency which is not needed but will most likely happen anyway
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 2:20 pm
    I used e-cigs to quit smoking. I am now smoke and vapor free. It`s nice being able to breathe.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    Some of the items under the e-cigs could be considered as poisons as well. Over all this this list of items might be true, but it is somewhat misleading.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    If all of Britain stopped smoking cigarettes and started smoking e-cigarettes we would save 5 million deaths in people who are alive today."


    So 5 million people who are alive today will become invincible highlanders who will never die?
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    July 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm
    Who gives a fark? I gave up smoking 17 years ago when I realised how stupid I really was at the time
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    I don`t trust the PC statistics.
    My dad died at 87 years and they said it was tobacco related. I suppose it had nothing to do with the heart bypass surgery he declined to have two years earlier. Maybe age-related diabetes was irrelevant as well. How about he was just freaking old! He hadn`t smoked in 15 years but they blamed it on tobacco on his death certificate.

    3 of my 4 grandparents drank heavy and smoked heavy. All 4 lived to 88-96. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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    REV666 Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 4:16 pm
    as a tobacconist, i smoke cigars damn near daily, and smoke my hookah once a day, my pipe once a week or so. never once had a dr notice i smoked..
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 5:45 pm
    The fact is, the politicians are being bribed by big tobacco to regulate the only clean alternative to smoking.

    PVs (personal vapors) are about as harmful as a fog machine.
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    Xprez Male 30-39
    676 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm
    Tobacco companies are like the oil companies. They have their hands in some very deep pockets. They WANT people to be unhealthy and smoke normal cigarettes.
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    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 6:25 pm
    Tobacco can start something that may take years to finally express itself. People get lung cancer who have just takes one mutated cell to do a detriment to yourself.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    July 26, 2013 at 6:42 pm
    my grandfather started smoking nonfilters when he was a small child, like maybe 7 (not uncommon then) and he lived to nearly 90. sure, he coughed in the morning and had yellow fingers, but he lived long and worked hard physical labor in a foundry most of his adult life. he was never ever hospitalized, NEVER, EVER. no diagnosed cancer, no heart disease, nothing.

    i don`t really think its the tobacco that kills though, i think its the stuff the tobacco companies add. i`ve read that growing your own tobacco and making your own cigarettes actually is a lot better for you, if you choose to smoke. and there`s the quality control issues which can be addressed at home.

    granted, that`s not for everyone but a $3 pack of seeds and a little effort might yield a year`s worth of smokes. i`m planning to do that in the spring.

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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    July 26, 2013 at 7:26 pm
    Here`s my beauty I-A-B:

    5 years, 20,000 "analogs" avoided - untold thousands of dollars spared. The cost is actually LESS, even for a fancy getup like this. In addition, the 36mg mixture which I originally started-out with has now dropped to 11mg; my body is naturally processing-out the nicotine, since I don`t spend 5 minutes puffing on a cancer stick but rather use as needed. Once I get down to 0, they can no longer classify this as a "nicotine-delivery" device; that is the fundamental discrepancy in our detractors` reasoning.
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    littleoracle Female 30-39
    322 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 7:31 pm
    It kills me how an electronic cigarette is under so much scrutiny as bad, which I have no doubt is the tobacco industry is pursuing, Yet pushing Chantix is a supposedly great safe alternative. What a crock of poo. Chantix has a disclaimer that says: "If you think of or attempt suicide, contact your doctor and stop using the product." So if you do attempt suicide or worse are successful you or your surviving loved ones can`t sue anyone for their product because of this stupid little disclaimer.

    So basically a pill that could possibly cause you to commit suicide is better than using an inhaler containing nicotine. In my opinion, this only shows that the nicotine inhaler is the better alternative.
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    handimanner Male 60-69
    2095 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 7:34 pm
    So, according to this, 2.5 people die from potatoes???
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    reija Female 30-39
    55 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 7:55 pm
    I smoked for nearly 15 years, I started as a teen, and I`ve been totally tobacco- and nicotine-free for over 3 years thanks to a $20 e-cigarette kit I bought at the gas station. Haven`t looked back. :)
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    3002-3038 Female 18-29
    632 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 8:56 pm
    The only really problem from e-cigarettes comes from the fact that you`re actively breathing water vapor into your lungs, which can (not lead to) but may make the chances of getting pneumonia slightly greater.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 26, 2013 at 9:07 pm
    Liberals ruin everything they touch.
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    osirisascend Male 40-49
    3045 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 9:16 pm
    January 3, 2012, I quit smoking, after a 30-year pack-a-day habit. (Started when I was 16)

    January 4, 2012, I acquired an e-cigarette.

    March 6, 2012, I realized I no longer needed it.

    Haven`t used nicotine in any form since. I still have the occasional craving (and am fully aware that I will have these occasional cravings for the rest of my life), but I am always able to get past it now.

    If it wasn`t for the e-cigarette, it wouldn`t have happened. For some of us they are a very useful tool in breaking that particular addiction.

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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
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    July 26, 2013 at 10:37 pm
    ~Squrlz runs around wildly, putting his paws on everything, trying to see if he can ruin them like Ollie says~

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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
    2424 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 10:40 pm
    Wait, this iconograph confuses me. "The Dark Truth" seemed to indicate that the E-cig is bad, but from the sounds of it, pretty good?

    Glad I quit, either way, although this made me want a smoke.
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    jay Male 30-39
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    July 26, 2013 at 11:36 pm
    I quit smoking last year using a nicotine free e-cig. Stopped using the e-cig after a couple months too. I agree that regularly inhaling water vapour could cause a higher propensity to contract a bug, but with a little forethought even that doesn`t have to be a big problem. Take a multi-vitamin, avoid cold, damp environments....try quitting in the summer....
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
    2382 posts
    July 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm
    I like how the pictogram for acetylene is arc welding.
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    mrhellhawk Male 18-29
    25 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 12:05 am
    I smoked for 10 years and tried to quit with no success, I gave up on myself and continue to smoke pack a day till my boss introduced me 6 month ago to Vapers, I start to use it and since then I`ve never curved cigarette. Am vaping with my beloved Proveri right now :) PV defiantly work. If you’re smoker give it a try you`ll never regret it.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 12:30 am
    To be fair sqwrlz, it was the decidedly `liberal` state of New York to be the first which elected to outlaw this device outright, with the close-second legislature of California to make a similar attempt - luckily, the bill was "Terminated." By a Republican. So there is a valid partisanship to this controversy. Now that Brown`s back in town I`m hoarding e-juice like you covet nuts.
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    Fml Male 30-39
    277 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 1:58 am
    Likewise384, here is an in-depth discussion on the article you linked to; basically they are saying they found les tan .002 particles on an unspecified amount of vapor. It is not only an insignificant amount of particles is practically inadmissible as present in any scientific study, they also used burned cartridges invalidating the study completely, there are some more recent studies that prove Vaping is completely safe.
    Discussion on Article

    New studies
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    Fml Male 30-39
    277 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 2:06 am
    I smoked 2 packs a day for 23 years and didn`t want to quit, I was given an electronic cigarette to use while traveling (flights, Hotel room and rental car)I realized once I had nicotine in my system I really didn’t need to smoke, and in the first 24 hours without smoking I got my sense of smell back, I was amazed. So in just 48 hours I completely got rid of cigarettes. I have turned vaping into a hobby and haven’t touched a cigarette in 18 months. I truly believe it saved my life as my energy levels, ease of breathing have dramatically improved plus the snoring, coughing, allergies, etc. all gone
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    Fml Male 30-39
    277 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 2:11 am
    Suicism, I also have a Vamo in my collection :-) But since I turned it into a hobby I don’t think I have been saving. I kind of been spending a lot of money on hardware :-(
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    Jerm_Leather Male 18-29
    897 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 3:10 am
    Two things, number one we all just read a freaking Advertisement for E-cigarettes. Seriously. How am I the only person to see this? Secondly, if a person wants to stop being addicted to something giving up the addictive element will work wonders! After smoking for 17 years I quit Colt Turkey. No nicotine patch, no nicotine gum, no nicotine whatsoever. Continuing to do nicotine won`t help you kick your addiction. Smokers are addicted to the nicotine, as well as a slight oral fixation. Anyways, no more full page ads on IAB, please.
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    geckohead Female 50-59
    591 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 6:13 am
    Yep, smoked a pack a day for 35 years. Got my first e-cig and have not picked up a smelly cig since. Yeah, ME!
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    daverazor Male 50-59
    198 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 6:44 am
    Oh ads are so clever nowadays.
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    Johanvb Male 40-49
    512 posts
    July 27, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    You are not the only one. I think this Info chart advertisement is highly dubious too.

    One of the points they make (tests say tobacco is bad and there are currently no proven risks) is the give-away here.
    Tobacco wasn`t considered dangerous in the early days. Now, after years of tests and lawsuits it is recognized as the poison it is.
    E-cigarettes haven`t been under the scrutiny that tobacco has been.

    Just because there isn`t a test something is bad makes it safe product.
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    SonjaFr Female 40-49
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    July 29, 2013 at 3:36 am
    Consumerism, Consumerism, Consumerism...
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    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    July 29, 2013 at 9:23 am
    ecigarettes are sooo gay lol
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