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69 Responses to 5 Possible Explanations for the Zimmerman Verdict

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 11:37 am
    Link: 5 Possible Explanations for the Zimmerman Verdict - Plausible?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 11:56 am

    A jury does not listen to both sides and thinks "which one do I believe". A jury starts with "He`s Innocent" and thinks "did they prove he was guilty". If not, or if in doubt, the answer is Not Guilty.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:00 pm
    I`ll give you one reason for the verdict.

    1) The jury heard both sides of the case, they were presented with evidence and heard testimony regarding every detail of the incident. Then, after that, they were sent to a room to review what they had seen & heard. Finally, based on the EVIDENCE and FACTS, they came to the conclusion that Zimmerman did not just kill Martin for sh*ts & giggles, he felt his life was threatened and acted accordingly.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Amazing how people are now looking for excuses as to why he was found not guilty rather than excepting the incredible likelihood that maybe he was indeed Not Guilty.
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    ajd121 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    Juror B-37 came out and said that she believed George Zimmerman, not that she had reasonable doubt of the prosecution`s case but that she believed him and that he acted in self defense because he thought his life was in danger.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    If I were ever on a jury- you need to completely 100% convince me of guilt if thats what yo want me to say- any doubt- innocent
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    @whodat6484

    OH NUH UUUHH! IS CAUSE HE A CRACKER ASS CRACKER CRACKER!! Hispanic??? OH NUH UHHH AL SLAPNUT DUN TELLZ ME HE A WHITE HISPANIC CRACKA CRACKA!!
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    lol what a biased article... 5 reasons why Zimmerman got away with it (like because of weather and the poor vocabulary of a witness)

    They forgot the obvious one of ..erm.. maybe he was just telling the truth. The prosecution certainly failed to convinced the jury that he wasn`t.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    Remember how all us crackers danced and cheered in the streets when he was found not guilty... oh no that was black for the OJ verdict!

    But we rioted after the OJ verdict and threatened to kill all them n****rs.... oh nope didn`t do that either. "Black culture" sure is making a great case for itself huh?
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    Agent00Smith Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:42 pm
    Our society has dividing lines built into it, not because the people want it, but because the rulers of the people want it.
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    sickandtired Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    Fancylad posting from Top5.com again? Now there`s a surprise...

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 1:15 pm

    @ McGovern1981 - a Hispanic crakr is called a "tortilla chip"

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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    5 Rational Explanations for the Zimmerman Verdict:
    1) The Prosecution failed to prove their case beyond a reasonble doubt.
    2) All the evidence supported the Defendent`s narrative.
    3) The State had no case.
    4) The case only made it to court due to political pressure, and the jury was not subject to pollitcal pressure.
    5) Al Sharpton is an idiot.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    Gerry1of1

    "a Hispanic crakr is called a "tortilla chip" "

    OK. Did you just invent that or is just a term I`ve never heard? Because if you came up with that it is f.ucking brilliant.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    July 16, 2013 at 3:03 pm
    @Gerry1of1

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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 4:20 pm
    I`ve found myself wondering about one thing since the beginning of all this madness.

    You want someone dead, so you arm yourself and provoke a fight with them (PROVOKE, not start a fight). They get upset with you and attack. You make sure you`re losing horribly. You then "fear" for your life and kill them. Self defense?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 4:49 pm
    @Kegomatix: GZ "wanted TM dead"? WTF?

    Had they ever met before? No.
    Is GZ a racist? No.
    (In FACT GZ actively campaigned for a Black Man shot to death by police: FOR the Black Man, AGAINST the "police white-wash" of the case.)
    Does GZ have a habit of attacking every negro he sees? No.

    Your comment is complete and utter bull-poop.
    Have a nice day! :-)
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    HolyGod, I thought of that with my own little racists mind.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 5:24 pm
    @MeGrendel- well said.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 6:30 pm
    @5cats

    I wasn`t referring to GZ and TM. It was hypothetical, basically what I am saying is based on a similar situation as the Zimmerman case, someone could technically get away with murder.

    Just a hypothetical thought, you didn`t catch on to that, I apologize that you`re a bit slow.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 6:31 pm
    6) he was innocent
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:00 pm
    I think that if I`m ever screaming for help, I`m going to scream my name as well; that way, when 911 audio tapes surface, there will be no doubt as to who is screaming for help.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:14 pm
    "6) he was innocent"

    Haha, word for word, my thoughts exactly.
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    chalket Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:30 pm
    Whether Z is innocent or not (I personally have a hard time calling him innocent, but what I (we?) believe is totally irrelevant), the fact remains that the prosecution failed to make their case. The man goes free and that should be the end of it. Will it be? Hell no. The media won`t let it fade away and it appears fancylad is gonna keep milking it for all its worth too. Let`s just effin` move on already!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:52 pm
    @Kegomatix: Oh, sorry, I was referring to a hypothetical "Kegomatix" not YOU!
    I guess "you didn`t catch on to that, I apologize that you`re a bit slow." eh?

    That`s like expecting posts on a TM & GZ thread to actually BE about TM &GZ! Lolz! How silly! Don`t you know hypothetical when you read it? Or perhaps... sarcasm?
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Innocent? Yes, most obviously, as found by a jury of his peers.

    Even if you don`t agree (which is stupid, given a jury with more knowledge of the case decided so) the law should always error on the side of caution. A guilty verdict will not bring back the dead. No need to punish the accused unless clearly guilty.

    Bleeding heart pussies just want someone to pay. Emotional nonsense. All good and fine until YOU are the one sentenced to life without good evidence, other than to calm the emotions of the retarded.

    Better a guilty man walk than an innocent man loose his future.

    P.S. .... Trayvon was a P.O.S.
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    turdburglar Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Couldn`t agree more with halfpint. White or black. Proof is required.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 8:02 pm
    Kegomatix you`re absolutely right. That part is a little nerve wracking. I know the response is "we`ll don`t attack people" but what if I didn`t and can`t tell my story? Also, there was a time I thought I was being followed and didn`t go straight home. I didn`t want the guy to know where I live. But that could be interpreted as went back to start a fight if I`m dead.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 8:04 pm
    @5Cats

    You`ve hurt my feelings, I demand money.

    Seriously though, I felt that I posed a legitimate question that I was hoping for some input on. Like I said originally, since the beginning of this whole debacle I have wondered, couldn`t someone HYPOTHETICALLY get away with murder using "self defense" simply by losing a fight?

    I in no way am trying to suggest that the jury was wrong, I agree with their decision.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    @Kegomatix

    I`ll take a stab at answering your question reasonably. First off, the shortest answer is yes, it`s possible.

    Of course, the success of the scheme is predicated on the "victim" initiating the violence and continuing it. Even in this case, the "victim" is responsible for restraining themselves.

    Is it a possible scenario? Sure - it`s pretty unlikely because the success is dependent on actions outside of your control - but it`s possible. That being said, there aren`t any real alternatives that alleviate this minor problem while still allowing for self-defense.
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 8:25 pm
    @paperduck

    I know the response is "we`ll don`t attack people" but what if I didn`t and can`t tell my story?
    Then it is murder and it is the responsibility of the police to collect evidence. The only way to solve the problem you`ve presented is to outlaw self-defense laws - unless there is another way that escapes me.

    Either way, I can`t imagine the cost of eliminating this problem would be worth it.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 16, 2013 at 9:04 pm
    Seriously though, I felt that I posed a legitimate question that I was hoping for some input on.
    @Kegomatix: Sorry I got all "sarky" it was... a passing moment!

    I did offer an answer: sort of. Why would someone do this with a completely random stranger?
    If you`re planning on using this "tactic" on someone you hate? That`s the FIRST thing the cops will look at.
    It would require a minimum of 1 "eyewitness" who appears neutral but is actually on your side. Now it`s a conspiracy to murder and just as complicated as regular murder.

    So no, I don`t think this "tactic" is used very often. At least not successfully.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 9:17 pm
    6) He was attacked by a drug-addled gang banger and shot the bastard in self defense. One less violent criminal to clog up our prisons, thank God.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 16, 2013 at 9:47 pm
    I have 5 better explanations.

    1. He never should have been arrested.
    2. He never should have been charged.
    3. He never should have been prosecuted.
    4. He never should have been tried.
    5. The case never should have gone to the jury.

    GZ was and still is the victim of a racist Democrat lynch mob.
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    whodat6484 Male 30-39
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    July 16, 2013 at 10:55 pm

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    enolamron Male 18-29
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    July 16, 2013 at 11:02 pm
    The only people who think that this is a verdict that needs to be explained are those who are unfamiliar with the American justice system. Let me explain it simply for people who don`t get it:
    If there is a `shadow of a doubt`, American law dictates that the defendant must be found not guilty. Now, I don`t know what happened that night; only GZ does (though I believe the medical examiner`s testimony that Martin was stradling Zimmerman when he was shout). Although I find this unreasonable, the law dictates that a jury must set the defendant free if there is any possibility that this was justifiable homicide. If GZ killed TM for no reason, he made the wisest choice he could have made for a defense - claim self-defense. Unless there is proof that the killing was NOT done in self-defense (eg video), he had to walk. I believe GZ; he seemed genuinely relieved when the cop lied and told GZ there was video of the attack. Anyway, American law says this was the only possible verdict
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2013 at 12:14 am
    Is there a pill for `Z`-fatigue yet?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    July 17, 2013 at 12:22 am
    #enolamron, you`re right except for one small detail: the standard for guilt is beyond a REASONABLE doubt, not beyond the shadow of a doubt.

    The prosecutor failed utterly to prove his guilt. If anything, I think GZ`s INNOCENCE was proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    spanz Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2013 at 1:06 am
    6: he was not guilty because...he was not guilty! Getting the crap beat out of you by a muscular 6` 2" man....yeah, he feared for his life and was justified in shooting the punk. End of story, get over it.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2013 at 2:32 am

    this would be reviewed as a hate crime here


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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2013 at 6:21 am

    This is Obama`s fault.
    I don`t know how, it just is.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2013 at 6:40 am
    No, no, Gerry... It`s Bush`s fault, remember?
  43. Profile photo of Dragonace
    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 7:17 am
    Let me start by saying I agree that the jury deliberated and did their civic duty and made the right call given the evidence presented to them. HOWEVER, I will say that I can see where people are coming from who are outraged over the verdict. Had GZ never exited his car and started pursuing TM, then this whole incident would have never taken place. By following TM, GZ forced him to act out of what logically could be assumed to be self preservation (fighting back). Honestly, if you were being followed by some strange guy thru back alleys, what would you do? Run? Fight? Hide? What?

    (continued next post)
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 7:18 am
    Had GZ not given chase or had he tried to actually communicate with TM rather than stalking him like a weirdo, then things could have played out differently. So I think the issue here is that there is not really a law regarding provocation and instigation of a violent situation like this (to my knowledge). Because in many people’s eyes, GZ instigated this whole thing by profiling and pursuing TM in the first place and it was his initial actions that started the chain of events that lead up to the shooting.
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2013 at 7:34 am
    Dragonace:
    The story that the jury accepted as truth because GZ was on the phone with the dispatcher wasn`t the media made up story that he was "stalking" the kid, but he was going to the street sign to tell the cops what street he was on and was jumped by Martin on his way back to the car.
    You may not believe it but apparently there was evidence to make a jury believe it.
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    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 7:50 am
    @monsterzero, I was unaware of that information, I didn`t follow the trial at all and only got tidbits of info here and there. But basically I`d say that the media is to blame for the misinformation and the outrage that resulted from it. Different news outlets portrayed the story in different ways and they slated it to support their own agenda, the days of unbiased news reporting are long gone. Today the news media outlets are nothing but propaganda machines used by the owners to push their personal views on the nation. Sad really!
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    HumanAction Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2013 at 8:44 am
    @Dragonace

    You should listen to the call between Zimmerman and the dispatcher; it might change your opinion.

    2:13 - Zimmerman leaves his truck;
    2:22 - Breathing heavily (obviously running), Zimmerman is asked if he is following; he says "Yeah";
    2:26 - Zimmerman told that "we don`t need you to do that"; he replies "OK";
    2:39 - Heavy breathing stops; Zimmerman says "He ran" clearly indicating that he is no longer following; conversation with dispatcher is now regular.

    Zimmerman complied within, at most, 13 seconds of being asked not to follow. The conversation then hints that Zimmerman has abandoned the "chase" to rendezvous with police officers.

    In my opinion, given this, the most probable scenario is that Martin came back to Zimmerman - as opposed to the "run
  48. Profile photo of TechMistress
    TechMistress Female 40-49
    61 posts
    July 17, 2013 at 9:40 am
    There is only one plausible explanation for the verdict - he`s not guilty.

    The man did NOT commit murder - even if he WAS stalking the kid, or chasing him. The way he was shot, was during a scuffle-type scenario.

    Zimmerman is a wannabe cop and the kid was a wannabe punk. Maybe if the kid stopped and talked to him instead of calling him a crazy cracker and beating the poo out of him, it wouldn`t have happened.

    If I saw a kid in my neighborhood in a hoodie at night that I normally don`t see around here, I`m profiling him for damned sure! Not as black, but as someone who doesn`t belong.

    People calling out racism are the the racists.

    Hate the law, not the man.
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    papajon0s1 Male 40-49
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    July 17, 2013 at 9:40 am
    There should be a law for a `whole lotta stupid going on by both parties involved". Sadly this one ended with tragic results. The real story here is that this is totally being used by the race crowd. I don`t believe for one second Obama and Holder want justice for anyone, they want people getting all riled up! They want to use your anger. That`s how they get your vote. That`s how they get your support and stay in power. Is any of this "bringing the country together"? Not at all. No, you are being used, people.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2013 at 9:47 am
    @Dragonace

    "I didn`t follow the trial at all"

    Yet you still felt justified in forming the below opinion:

    "Had GZ not given chase or had he tried to actually communicate with TM rather than stalking him like a weirdo, then things could have played out differently."

    What`s a good word for forming an opinion before you know the facts? Hmmm...
  51. Profile photo of Dragonace
    Dragonace Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 9:48 am
    @HumanAction -Thanks for that link, I listened to the call and then watched a video that laid out the scene as it unfolded so as to give perspective on what transpired. Given GZ`s account of the evening and the lack of direct witnesses during the 3-4 minutes between the end of GZ`s call with 911 and the gunshot, its hard to say what exactly lead to the shooting. Because GZ is the only one who knows what happened, there is no way to prove without a reasonable doubt of his guilt, hence the acquittal.

    But I still understand peoples frustration that GZ profiled TM based solely on his appearance and ended up killing him (for reasons we’ll never know). Honestly I think had GZ simply walked up to TM and asked what his business was in the neighborhood it may have gone down differently. Since GZ was just watching TM from a distance, I would assume TM felt threatened and decided to fight back. But in the end no one knows the facts so no one can say it was GZ or TM wh
  52. Profile photo of Dragonace
    Dragonace Male 30-39
    296 posts
    July 17, 2013 at 9:53 am
    In the end a young man lost his life for basically nothing and that is hard to take, especially for those who are parents. As I have seen expressed over and over again these past few days, parents are terrified for their children’s future because they could be profiled and killed just like TM simply for looking or dressing a certain way and it seems like there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

    @Musuko42 - Where in my post did I ever mention I didn`t know the basic details of the situation? I followed the story for the first few months after it happened, so I based my opinion on the facts I had at that time. But as you can see by my post below, I quickly changed my stance once I was given new information. So please don`t label me as prejudice simply because I wasn`t aware I had incorrect information. Like I said earlier, the new media has been spreading misinformation constantly since the incident occurred trying to sway public opinion on the matter
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 10:01 am
    You won`t recognize me. My name
    was Antonio West and I was the 13-month old child who was shot at point
    blank range by two teens who were attempting to rob my mother, who was
    also shot. A Grand Jury of my mommy`s peers from Brunswick GA determined
    the teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty...too bad I
    was given a death sentence for being innocent and defenseless.

    My family made the mistake of being white in a
  54. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 10:01 am
    73% non-white
    neighborhood, but my murder was not ruled a Hate Crime. Nor did
    President Obama take so much as a single moment to acknowledge my
    murder.

    I am one of the youngest murder victims in our great Nation`s
    history, but the media doesn`t care to cover the story of my tragic
    demise, President Obama has no children who could possibly look like me -
    so he doesn`t care and the media doesn`t care because my story is not
    interesting enough to bring them ratings so they can sell commercial
    time slots.

  55. Profile photo of McGovern1981
    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 10:02 am
    There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton because if there was
    he would be declared racist, so there is no one rushing to Brunswick GA
    to demand justice for me. There is no White Panther party to put a
    bounty on the lives of those who murdered me. I have no voice, I have no
    representation and unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat
    innocently in my stroller - I no longer have my life.

    So while you are seeking justice for Treyvon, please remember to seek
    justice for me too. Tell your friends about me, tell you families, get
    tee shirts with my face on them and make the world pay attention, just
    like you did for Treyvon"

    Share with all Humans
  56. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
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    July 17, 2013 at 11:44 am
    McGovern1981,

    I am sure you can sink lower, I`m just not sure how.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    @LordJim

    Join the black panthers and preach to kill babies mabey? Or follow the word of Sharpton? Look the story up for yourself or would that burst your little bubble?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    Honestly I think had GZ simply walked up to TM and asked what his business was...
    @Dragonace: Didn`t you just say GZ should have "stayed in his car"? Now he`s supposed to approach TM? Which one is "correct" eh?

    @McGovern: So true!
    Black on Black crime = ignored
    Black on White crime = ignored
    White on Black crime = SENSATIONAL!
    White on White crime = depends on the situation
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    DinVen Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    The morbidly obese killer won. How very American.
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    N-Vet Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    I heard a term that applies to most Cable "News" especially in this case. Journalistic Malpractice, which can occur on both sides of most issues... The US media is full of it. Which is why I go to print news and European sources to get news that is more in line with what Journalism should be - The facts, little if no opinion.
    I personally like Jib Jab`s view of What we call the news.
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    AtheistAlien Male 30-39
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    July 17, 2013 at 2:32 pm
    I got an explanation for the verdict. HE REALLY WAS INNOCENT! Imagine that! It actually happened like he said. None of you were there and none of you were at the trial so STFU!
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    alpensepp Male 70 & Over
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    July 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm
    i still dont understand how anyone can call this man "white". he is clearly hispanic.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    July 17, 2013 at 6:31 pm
    why are we supposed to give a sh*t? why is this one black kid so important? what of genocide, oppression and dictatorship in the world, what of starvation poverty and disease?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 17, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    McGovern, "There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton"
    Mel Gibson?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2013 at 1:11 am
    @Dragonace

    "Where in my post did I ever mention I didn`t know the basic details of the situation?"

    Right here:

    "I didn`t follow the trial at all"

    A lot of information was not publicly known until the trial (such a the balistics indicating Martin was on top).

    You formed your opinion before you had access to the facts. That is called prejudice. It is the very definition of the word prejudice. Don`t be in denial about it: do something about it.

    "So please don`t label me as prejudice simply because I wasn`t aware I had incorrect information."

    Making a judgement on information you weren`t aware is bad is excusable.

    Making a judgement without having access to even the pertinent information ISN`T. And you did not have that before the trial. And then when you had the opportunity to get it, during the trial...you didn`t.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2013 at 7:29 am
    Mel Gibson?

    LOL!! We don`t follow him like lemmings though.
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    Bakcagain21 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2013 at 8:14 am
    1-He was Innocent within the bounds of the law
    2-He was Innocent within the bounds of the law
    3-He was Innocent within the bounds of the law
    4-He was Innocent within the bounds of the law
    5-He was Innocent within the bounds of the law
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    P.S. - turdburglar - I would have PM`d this fyi if this website made that function possible, but you`re not the only one who`s inadvertently used the term "error" in error within this context; I was guilty myself for a time. The correct term you were looking for in this application would be "err," which means basically the same thing but is considered more journalistically proper for some reason. No detraction from your argument as a whole.

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